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true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 7:42:26 PM   
wanta247


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Status: offline 		why is it that in alot of slave/sub profiles, the sub atests to being ready to do anything for there Master, but if the pic is not of "Tom Crusie, Antionio Bendaries"quality,Why do suddenly subs become very picky about everything instead of keping to the ideal of ownership they were originally looking for
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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 7:50:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Because sex an sex appeal are commodities with which we trade. Doesn't make it right of fair, but it's the truth. Ask any person in advertising...sex sells.

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 7:52:54 PM   
IvyP


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Status: offline 		Masters are like shoes....gotta keep tring them out till one fits...capture ones mind, and you capture a devoted loyal sub/slave....shallowness is abundant, for B/both.maybe ideal of ownership of a sub they were looking for, is  your perception.....if the shoe fits, wear it, and spank it, and bond it, and  oooooohh, getting all worked up here


then happy i to love, and am beloved....where i can not remove, nor be removed.........buddy S :)

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 7:53:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Because sex an sex appeal are commodities with which we trade. Doesn't make it right of fair, but it's the truth. Ask any person in advertising...sex sells.

Master Fire



The advertising comment is dead-on.  We're just wired that way. 

Some people make a LOT of money off of it. 

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 7:56:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wanta247

why is it that in alot of slave/sub profiles, the sub atests to being ready to do anything for there Master, but if the pic is not of "Tom Crusie, Antionio Bendaries"quality,Why do suddenly subs become very picky about everything instead of keping to the ideal of ownership they were originally looking for



Are they saying this is why? Or are you yourself assuming this is the reason? As most have attested to here on recent threads about "personality or looks" etc personality for them is a big thing, however as someone once pointed out you dont look across a room and look at someone and think "wow, great personality". I'd be asking you what type of subs are you contacting? Are you contacting all subs? Or just those that look like Nicole Kidman or Haily Berry ??(cant spell her name, but boy is she HOT!) Personally I can look across a room and go wow! He sure does carry himself well. I can almost see someones confidence and ego etc and for me thats a big turn on. If you are assuming your rejections are due to the fact you are not Tom Cruise, then I would first be thankful I am not him or look like him (I cant stand him, weedy little creep LOL) and I'd then ask my self what sort of "vibes" am i putting out there? I havent read your profile, as I am not looking anyway, but this is just something to consider.
a) Are you only looking for the female equivalent ofTom Cruises?
b) Are you exuding lack of confidence?
and
c) Are your profiles compatable with whom you are trying to spark conversation with?
If I were looking, I'd closely check profiles and read any journal enteries etc.

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 8:12:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wanta247

why is it that in alot of slave/sub profiles, the sub atests to being ready to do anything for there Master, but if the pic is not of "Tom Crusie, Antionio Bendaries"quality,Why do suddenly subs become very picky about everything instead of keping to the ideal of ownership they were originally looking for



because at heart.. we are all very superficial and only want the best for ourselves...

why do doms do the same??

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 8:19:58 PM   
NControlofU


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Status: offline 		Just keep looking.  There is a "true" slave/sub out there that will see you and appreciate you for who you are and not what you look like.  I found mine a year ago through CM and everything just clicked right off the bat and we're still going strong.  But, there are a lot of phonies on this site, also.  Beware but, don't give up.

David

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 8:23:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NControlofU

Just keep looking.  There is a "true" slave/sub out there that will see you and appreciate you for who you are and not what you look like.  I found mine a year ago through CM and everything just clicked right off the bat and we're still going strong.  But, there are a lot of phonies on this site, also.  Beware but, don't give up.

David


Why is a sub a phony because she wants a man she is sexually attracted to?

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 8:26:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wanta247

why is it that in alot of slave/sub profiles, the sub atests to being ready to do anything for there Master, but if the pic is not of "Tom Crusie, Antionio Bendaries"quality,Why do suddenly subs become very picky about everything instead of keping to the ideal of ownership they were originally looking for



If they have not been telling you this, then it probably isn't the reason. If you think about, lots of people (kinky and otherwise) date and flirt with lots of people before they find the right one. And part of that is finding a person you are attracted to. You may consider it shallow but it's normal. And I'm willing to bet you aren't contacting subs you consider to be butt-ugly or anything below "Eh... I could do her".

Meeting someone in person lets us judge their personality and that can override looks. But meeting online we have a picture and a profile to go by. It's the price one must pay when one tries dating online, but the reward of finding someone is worth it.

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 8:38:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, obviously if they don't just immediately surrender everything to the guy who first happens to hit her email box, she's just a wannabe slave.  Standards totally go against the idea of being a slave you know.

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 8:39:45 PM   
wanta247


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Status: offline 		I was asking for informations sake only,was just wondering if the advertising age had crept into every part of our lives, even in the most deepest part of our sexuality, as part of a couple women's opinons change about a mans looks, but as a single male, it seems like that is the litmus test

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 9:09:06 PM   
medievalwench


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Status: offline 		when i met Master i was not physically attracted to Him but there was a definite something there that drew me.
if i was looking for someone now i would look for the right person and that could be anyone if i found them attractive - and what i find attractive is definitely not what others seem to do, so i think even if someone turned a Dominant down purely based on looks, there will be many others who will find the person's looks attractive.
i know that i think that i am physically unattractive to many, m aybe most,  because i don't fit the model that society claims is attractive, but to Master i am beautiful.

wench


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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 9:13:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Yeah, obviously if they don't just immediately surrender everything to the guy who first happens to hit her email box, she's just a wannabe slave.  Standards totally go against the idea of being a slave you know.


Right right... I keep forgetting... being a sub means I don't get to make any choices in my partner!

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 9:14:49 PM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: wanta247

I was asking for informations sake only,was just wondering if the advertising age had crept into every part of our lives, even in the most deepest part of our sexuality, as part of a couple women's opinons change about a mans looks, but as a single male, it seems like that is the litmus test


Well, look at this way: Would you rather a sub be picturing someone else while you have sex with her, or would you rather be patient and find a sub who has to change her panties after thinking about you?

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 9:15:18 PM   
medievalwench


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Yeah, obviously if they don't just immediately surrender everything to the guy who first happens to hit her email box, she's just a wannabe slave.  Standards totally go against the idea of being a slave you know.


no, of course not, we have to take whatever jumps out at us and says 'i claim you' <giggles>

wench

Right right... I keep forgetting... being a sub means I don't get to make any choices in my partner!


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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 9:23:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wanta247

why is it that in alot of slave/sub profiles, the sub atests to being ready to do anything for there Master, but if the pic is not of "Tom Crusie, Antionio Bendaries"quality,Why do suddenly subs become very picky about everything instead of keping to the ideal of ownership they were originally looking for


Why do some dominants come into the ask a submissive/slave forum to whine? Do you think that's the sort of thing which is going to appeal to someone who is looking for a Master?

Submissives and slaves are picky because when they come to the forums for advice, they are informed they don't have to settle, they are informed they don't have to submit to any old shlub who calls themselves dominant, they are informed they are valuable, worthy and have the right to choose.

All of that applies equally to dominants as well, so chalk up the fact that you haven't found a 'true' slave as simply a compatibility factor. You are fishing in a very small pond already because you're part of a couple, you state in your profile you are laid back (which will not appeal to a good portion of submissive who seek someone who 'takes charge') and a number of other issues that are fairly glaring.

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 9:26:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedSavageSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: wanta247

why is it that in alot of slave/sub profiles, the sub atests to being ready to do anything for there Master, but if the pic is not of "Tom Crusie, Antionio Bendaries"quality,Why do suddenly subs become very picky about everything instead of keping to the ideal of ownership they were originally looking for



because at heart.. we are all very superficial and only want the best for ourselves...

why do doms do the same??


:( that sounds so sad and jaded!!!

You need a hug!! (((HHHHUUUGGGSSSS)))

Magik's slave

Edited because I forgot the hug!! LOL

< Message edited by MagiksSlave -- 11/21/2006 9:27:51 PM >

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 10:06:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmmm, we all have preferences in the looks department. The title of this thread seems to imply that submissives that have particular taste and are holding out for an attraction are not "real" or "true" submissives. Personally I think that is a little judgmental, just because someone wants to be owned by someone does not mean they want to be owned by just anyone.

I noted that you are a dominant couple, not everyone is into poly, and perhaps that is a larger problem for you than whether or not you resemble a movie star.

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/21/2006 10:08:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are those of both dispositions for whom looks are a dealbreaker. I know for me, at least, I cannot form a lasting D/s relationship with someone I do not at lesat find attractive.  My pets are my significant others more often than not and I do expect to be attracted to them and that they be attracted to me. I am definately NOT Nicole Kidman or Halle Berry. I am quite happy whith who I am, the the whole point of the search was to find someone else who apreciated who I was, and whom I enjoyed my time with. I agree with Aqua about what youd rather have. I prefer someone who gets up at the mere thought of being around me.  I like kowing that when we pass other women, the thoughts going through his head are not "Man, if I werent with her, I could be going for that" but rather "Wow, shes got nothing on my Lady." 
Attraction in the long run has to be about more than just looks, but honestly, when you are leafing through the profiles... what turns YOUR head? Think of how you react too, do you look at the ones you find unattractive to se how much potential they might have, or do you pass the ones that dont pique your and look for someone more physically attractive?

DV

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RE: true slave/sub - 11/22/2006 1:28:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Want, I don't know why you choose to e-mail me (or perhaps because you didn't want to say this here) but let me assure you that a submissive is completely capable of choosing her partner. First point: A submissive is not a slave and even a slave is not your slave until she gives herself to you. Once given, it is complete. But why on earth would you even want a girl who said "Oh you are the first guy who e-mailed me, obviously you are my dom. Please impale me with your mighty sword-flesh and command me to do whatever you will." That isn't true submission. It's just dumb.

Harsh but I will stick by it.

Edited to add: Telling me I'm not lifestyle because I pointed out that letting any old master have me could end up with me belonging to a pedophile is not mature and a sign of much experience.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 11/22/2006 1:36:53 AM >

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