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slaveaurora -> RE: JFK assasination 2nd gunman studied (11/24/2006 6:01:27 AM)
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Did Oswald return to his lodgings ?
Mrs Earlene Roberts , Oswald's landlady testified that at 1pm Dallas time Oswald returned to his lodgings and changed his clothes, thus at least confusing any description the Police may have been able to give of his appearance. She further testified that a Police car parked in front of her house, while Oswald was present and sounded its horn twice. How suspicious was that since not 15 mins later Oswald had his ill fated "meeting" with Tippet ?
I looked into this a bit more, and you are right. Oswald did in fact go home and at the very least changed his jacket, and possibly his t-shirt.
Earline Roberts did say that a police car pulled up out front and honked it's horn while Oswald was there. However the number she said was on the side of the car, was later found not to be a number within the police department...in other words it was not a lagitament police vehicle. There is some speculation as to how credible a witness Earline Roberts was, and some say that she was into the fame of it all.
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The rifle found on the 6th floor was initially identified as a German 7.65 mm Mauser and an affidavit was sworn to this affect by one of the Police Officers who discovered it.
I do not know when it changed to a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 mm but I would guess this happened when the authorities found they could not tie Oswald to a Mauser, but they could associate him with a Mannlicher.
One important fact, stamped on the Rifle was Made in Italy 6.5 mm.
Wonder why the Police thought it was German ?
The obvious answer is that the Mannlicher was a plant.
The rifle initally found was thought to be a Mauser by the officer that first found it-this was before it was picked up and removed from the scene. Once they did remove it, and upon further inspection, they realized it was in fact a Mannlicher-Carcano. The officer who first found it laying at the scene mistakenly identified it as the Mauser.
The Mannlicher was not a plant, it was the gun that was used to kill Kennedy.
As for the ammo... I don't know... Master says that that ammo is not all that rare, and in fact is pretty common. He also says that while he is not positive, the gun did hold a clip, and he "thinks" that any size clip could have been used. Why there was only 4 bullets, I don't know...
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You should not casually claim as fact that Ruby simply entered the Police Station willy nilly. When someone suspected of having committed a crime of this magnitude is being moved clearly the police station would have been closed down. It appears the responsible Dallas police actually did this, in that ALL entries were guarded.
Therefore the Warren commision was forced to conclude that one of the officers was mistaken when he said that no one entered past him during his watch.
Ruby was known to mix with rogue elements of the force and therefore he could have been and probably was smuggled in to the station. Unless of course Ruby had stayed in the station all night !
Jack Ruby was friends with several police officers, and many of them routinly visited his club. There is on record that one of the police officers questioned stated that he did not see Ruby walk into the police station, that maybe his back was turned at the time.
It is also documented that Ruby was in fact at the Western Union minutes before arriving at the station to wire money to one of his employees, a stripper I believe. There is a receipt from the Western Union to prove this, complete with the time on it.
It is possible that Ruby did casually walk into the police station undetected, there were tons of press there, and it seems feasable to me that he could have gotten in without question, especially since he was friends with many of the officers.
I don't think he planned to kill Oswald that day, but it has been said, that Oswald walked out with a grin on his face, and this caused Ruby to "snap" and he shot him.
Had Ruby planned to kill Oswald that day, it makes sense to me that he would have arrived at the station at the original time Oswald was to be moved - remember his departing the station was delayed, and Ruby would not have known that.
Sir... I have to ask if you are familiar with the Education forum? There is much info there about Kennedy's assasination by people who "know"...
Master has an entire directory on this computer dedicated to Kennedy, complete with tons of pictures from that day, and many documents. In fact we were looking at some of them last night, and there are pics of the gun.
~aurora~
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