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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/24/2006 4:57:02 PM

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general comment....

Where do the poor people live in NY city? I'm sure that sounds like a stupid question lol, but really...

crowded, three to a room (rooms, not bedrooms) in an apartment someone's grandma got in 1973.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/24/2006 5:50:21 PM

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Alright, there is a large chance that my man and I will be moving to the area around New York City. I have visited the area once (I got lost) and I would not like to move into New York City itself. I want to buy a house and have a yard (not a large yard, but a yard). Most people are happy having a place to park their car, they don't even dare to dream of a yard lol
Can anyone recommend a small area outside the city where affordable houses may be found? I am open to any state as long as it is within reasonable distance from New York City. I assume that is New York and New Jersey and maybe Connecticut, but I don't really know, it's hard to tell from the map. I can find the properties, I just need some cities or areas to look in.

What is a reasonable distance.... you can live in upstate NY pretty cost effectively. Then again what can you afford, I have family in the NY metro area (actually morris and sussex counties NJ) commute is anywhere from 1hr to 3hr depending on rush hour and other unknown accidents. But both their houses are half a million dollars and totally over priced!! I hate to say this but Lincoln Park NJ is nice and pretty resonable @ 300,000. dollars approx. After 9/11 alot of people moved to the suburbs... I was born and raised around "The City" (and yes that is what EVERYONE calls it, The City like it is the only city in the whole damned USA, don't let me get started lol)

On a similar, but kind of unrelated note. I just started making friends here (after 2 years) and I am scared to move to another city and state and start all over. Does anyone have any advice?
One ggood thing about that area is that there is no lack of activities to keep you busy. There are alot of Alt clubs and organizations and of course "normal" ones.... I would offer to introduce you to my peoples but honestly I wouldn't subject you to that, you seem far to nice. best of luck with the move.

I am more concerned with the top issue then the bottom one. The second issue is more of a side note.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/24/2006 9:58:55 PM

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i live in New Jersey, near Princeton. It 's a nice area, but i don't recommend New Jersey to anyone. Too expensive as it is, and they want to make most of the 'free-ways' into toll roads. The NJTP, GSP and ACEx are not enough for the porkers in Trenton.
The least expensive place in New Jersey is New Egypt ... but it would take over an hour in morning traffic just to get to the train for NYC. Perhaps Connecticut is better.

Not that we wouldn't love to have you and your man here ......

edited so it's easier to read ... oh yeah, and for spelling ...

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/24/2006 10:02:28 PM

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quote:

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general comment....

Where do the poor people live in NY city? I'm sure that sounds like a stupid question lol, but really...

Unless you watch the TV shows or broadway musicals, in which case they somehow manage to have studio apartments in the Village.

I lived in NY for a long time. I didnt like it, but I was in Coney Island... gangs, crime and the boardwalk and Cyclone. What a childhood.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 12:57:34 AM

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I lived in NJ for only two years. I made it my home, and was happy there- but because I made friends, had a good job, didn't have a serious commute, and visited NYC very often- not because of anything "Jersey."

My biggest gripe is always with the car insurance- it's THE worst. NY is only slightly better.

And you can't turn left properly. And the tolls are everywhere.

On the other hand, it does have great malls, diners, bakeries and Italian.

On the scene front- it's mostly private stuff at this point. Spurts of public parties/dungeons struggle every few years or so but no one has the leadership, intelligence, and money to make a serious go of it thus far. Not to mention, NYC isn't that tough to enjoy closeby.

So yes, I made it my home. But I left the first real opportunity that came to me and do not recommend anyone ever choosing to make it their home.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 5:07:17 AM

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Ja, but you can't get to any of those places 'cause you can't turn fuckin' left and all the good ones are on the left-hand side of the road from where you are.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 5:57:41 AM

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Cherry Hill New Jersey is a very nice place and it's not too far from New York

Cherry Hill Township is a township in Camden County, New Jersey, in the United States. As of the United States 2000 Census, the township had a total population of 69,965, making it the fourteenth-largest municipality in New Jersey and the sixth-largest in the Delaware Valley, South Jersey's densely-populated core outside Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It is considered an Edge city of Philadelphia.
In their 2006 survey, Cherry Hill was named the 47th Best Place to Live by CNN Money

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 6:07:20 AM

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i live in New Jersey, near Princeton. It 's a nice area, but i don't recommend New Jersey to anyone. Too expensive as it is, and they want to make most of the 'free-ways' into toll roads. The NJTP, GSP and ACEx are not enough for the porkers in Trenton.
The least expensive place in New Jersey is New Egypt ... but it would take over an hour in morning traffic just to get to the train for NYC. Perhaps Connecticut is better.

No, Connecticut is not better than NJ in terms of affordable housing near the city. It may even be worse, because you have to travel further to get to the areas that are cheap because you don't want to live there (Bridgeport, for example). i grew up in Greenwich, and like to tell people that i come from a long line of people who could no longer afford to buy the homes they live in. Although, at least in CT you can actually accelerate all the way up to 55 before having to stop for a tollbooth.

Highly specialized fields can be a bitch. Has he looked into places that have lots of "shows", rather than "The-a-tuh", like Vegas and Branson?

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 6:17:36 AM

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come here..you can buy a cheap apartment for only 430000$ and a house..perhaps with a yard from 580000$ IF you're lucky and that doesn't matter whether you're in perhaps 20-40minutes away or just right in the center..
it's good to live where i live yayyyyyyyyyyyyy

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 6:27:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: siamsa24

Alright, there is a large chance that my man and I will be moving to the area around New York City. I have visited the area once (I got lost) and I would not like to move into New York City itself. I want to buy a house and have a yard (not a large yard, but a yard).
Can anyone recommend a small area outside the city where affordable houses may be found? I am open to any state as long as it is within reasonable distance from New York City. I assume that is New York and New Jersey and maybe Connecticut, but I don't really know, it's hard to tell from the map. I can find the properties, I just need some cities or areas to look in.

On a similar, but kind of unrelated note. I just started making friends here (after 2 years) and I am scared to move to another city and state and start all over. Does anyone have any advice?

I am more concerned with the top issue then the bottom one. The second issue is more of a side note.

Hi Siamsa....

Other than the fact I have an aunt /uncle and a few cousins in Howard Beach {right up from Queens} I know relatively nothing about the real estate there. However, I will tell you that I think you should wait just a bit before you purchase. We are experiencing a downward trend in housing prices that as yet is nowhere-near close to hitting the bottom. In the next twenty-four months, we may begin to see a buyers haven

Trust me on this.....the real estate in Manhattan may not take a dump anytime soon, but it's going to fall elsewhere.

Good luck

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 7:09:13 AM

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i don't want to be a pessimist, but unless you have equity in your present home and a very large down payment, buying a home where you might be looking will be nearly impossible. i am quite sure that the two incomes you are describing will not be enough to pay the mortgage, with all of the other expences. Taxes, insurance and other expences will break you out there. Also since you are not married, many banks are very leary of lending large amounts for a mortgage. If you break up they end up with a house they do not want..

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 9:09:33 AM

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AMEN! after a year of living there that still gets me confused.

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Ja, but you can't get to any of those places 'cause you can't turn fuckin' left and all the good ones are on the left-hand side of the road from where you are.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 7:00:21 PM

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I just moved to pa, but I grew up in central jersey (middlesex county.) You aren't going to find an actual house anywhere in jersey that I know of for 100k or less. Even my parents house which was a total dump sold for 200,000.

If you want to purchase and not rent (but still be in a decent area) you can look around the edison area. You won't be able to get a house, but you can manage to find a decent townhome or condo for under 100k. Right now weichert has 4 condos under 75k & one under 90k. Edison is about an hour away by train (which would be my recommended transportation.) The ones listed aren't within walking distance of the station, but they aren't more than a 10 minute drive tops.

I mention edison and the surrounding areas because I know alto of about it and the cost of living there. Metuchen, woodbridge, south plainfield, piscataway may also be areas to look at although there are less reputable areas in some of those towns. (Metuchen excluded though, its a very small town that Edison envelopes. Very safe, but also very expensive. If you are willing to rent and can afford something there... everything in metuchen is in walking distance to the metuchen train station.) There is Perth Amboy (which is also great for transportation) and tends to be cheap, but from what you've mentioned in the thread I doubt it would be somewhere you'd want to move to since it is very crowded and "city-like." Not quite the place you want to be walking at night. Same thing with New Brunswick... but expensive and worse.

The issues I have with Jersey is the growing development. I moved four months ago and came back to the area for the holiday. The amount of development in four months is astounding. Traffic is everywhere, and there is no longer a time where you will ever find the roads anywhere near empty. There are a lot of wonderful areas... and new jersey can be a wonderful place to live. But all of that takes money... which is why I moved.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 7:28:57 PM

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I live in NY state. I doubt the commute would be fun day after day but amtrak and Metro north take you up to Albany. You can find a tiny place near albany for 85 grand. You can also buy condos around beacon for 65 grand. There poughkeepsie Fiskill Rhinebeck, kingston and on up it goes.

If a bus comumute is your thing try sullivan county off route 17. Middletown area I believe has commuter buses right into port authority. If they build the indian casino your house might gain in value.

You can live off the thruway or rt 87 within and hours drive at the far end of rockland couinty. You'll just have to be open to anything to start with. Nows a good time to look around. Prices are falling. Good luck to you.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 7:35:26 PM

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I don't believe Metro North goes further than Poughkeepsie. What line goes all the way to Albany? Anyway, the trip to Poughkeepsie is nearly two hours. The train to Albany, if there is one, must take at least three hours. That doesn't seem feasible for a daily commute.

Fishkill and so on are way out of the OP's budget. Beacon, maybe.

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I live in NY state. I doubt the commute would be fun day after day but amtrak and Metro north take you up to Albany. You can find a tiny place near albany for 85 grand. You can also buy condos around beacon for 65 grand. There poughkeepsie Fiskill Rhinebeck, kingston and on up it goes.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/25/2006 9:09:39 PM

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there is a station in albany... but you'd be looking at a least a two and a half hour ride... and oh $75 a day. Thats what, $15k a year on average? Yikes.

Edited to add, I'm talking about Amtrak here, Metro North doesn't go that far.

Which reminds me Saimsa... you could always check out the white plains area. Have a few friends there who love it.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/26/2006 5:48:40 AM

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Traffic in White Plains has hit a near standstill. But yes, anyone could check out the train lines north, look at the stops and radiate from there house wise. Theres not just the hudson line including amtrak. Theres the harlem line as well.

House hunting aint easy! But if you thought of it as a challenge and were determined to make it work, then I believe you could make it work. If no one could make it work, then there wouldnt be such a housing shoratage, and high prices in the metro area now would there? Seriously, expand your idea of housing to include condos or cluster.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/26/2006 6:10:30 AM

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Although I lived in White Plains some years ago, the rail is right there and it actually isn't to bad to drive into the city, but once you are in it on a workday.

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/26/2006 6:31:08 AM

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Get an RV and live in Central Park. [regster it in a no name country so they cant ticket you, bulgaria]

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RE: Need some advice about New York/Jersey - 11/26/2006 6:35:37 AM

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I love living in NJ. But then again, I live just a few miles from NYC, have a river view and have a great deal.

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