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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I'm gonna incur the wrath of every lesbian on the thread now, but in my experience lesbian women are amongst the most hostile and unpleasant people I have ever come across. <snip>
 
Usually people are angry from either feeling like a victim or a failure of their expectations being met.   They play this out in thier every interaction with others.  It is a personal problem which they've yet to find the solution.  Given some intellect one might come to understand the feelings of another and find it perfectly fine that they are different and know that difference does not mean that it is a threat to them, their way of life, or belief system. 

<snip>I've seen it, but never experienced it against me, directed at trans people, gay men, heterosexuals and especially bisexual women. It may be more a case of reaction to past experience rather than action, may be done with a first strike or fortress mentality, but honestly, the prejudice and hostility I have seen is breathtaking. <snip>

I am not much on predjudices for any of the above reasons.  I am prejudiced against people who have offensive, abrasive, caustic attitudes or behave rudely.  People of this mind set are truly their own worst enemy in my opinion.  It does not seem that they possess peace nor happiness within.  I have a very wonderful, creative close friend who is pre-op TS lesbian sub with a beautiful and tortured soul.  Living with unacceptance all of your life for what you in your heart are is a difficult path to take.  To me people are not nationalites or sexualities, but personalities and attitude, there in lies their attractive or unattractiveness.
 
<snip>So to the OP - dont sweat it, honestly. If my experience is anything to go by, if you werent bi, you'd be getting it for some other reason no doubt. And just be thankful youre not a bisexual, trans switch - 'cause that would tick all the boxes! <snip>

Once again....someone we might have believed we might find open minded is anything but.  As a natural analyist I find that usually there are unresolved underlying issues in these individuals and they often don't even realize it.  Live your life as meets your needs and ignore those who can not feel happy about your happiness......  Chances are, what ever it is that we look for, we will find it.
 
The Guiding Goddess
.....who also has many facets and wears lots of different shoes, because it is MY kink....yup....I CAN have it all!

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen



The funny thing is, which didnt get mentioned above, if you are an insider to their group, they're all perfectly nice and normal. But personally I dont like bitchin' behind peoples backs from anyone, friend or not, and thats what I saw.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Hi Guide

I'm confused; are you saying you think me closed minded because I posted my experiences along with the usual indicators that they were only my experiences, likely unrepresentative and definitely explicable?

Are you saying you think me offensive, abrasive, caustic and rude for posting what I did, in the way I did it?

In such case, then you might want to look back through my other 18-1900 posts on this site since June, before making closed minded judgements about me.

Sure I have unresolved issues, but not in this direction I'm afraid; do you think the police would invite me to advise on LGBT matters at the highest level of strategic and tactical planning, if that were the case? do you you think they'd refer LGBT victims of crime to me for counselling, if that were the case?

Show me anyone with unresolved issues, and I'll show you a psychopath; about the only people in the world who have it all figured out.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

So to the OP - dont sweat it, honestly. If my experience is anything to go by, if you werent bi, you'd be getting it for some other reason no doubt. And just be thankful youre not a bisexual, trans switch - 'cause that would tick all the boxes!

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Its just that if I am to be described as caustic and offensive, then I might as well be!?

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen


Show me anyone with unresolved issues, and I'll show you a psychopath; about the only people in the world who have it all figured out.

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ORIGINAL: ScienceBoy

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Nah. They just don't care [;)] (They also make very good CEOs)

It always seems odd to me.. I mean, you don't see really autistic people having a dig at high-functioning autustics for being fence sitters, do you? [;)]

Mind you, I can't stand D/s people going on about 'twue' subbiness or domliness either, or gay people bitching about 'fake' gay people. I also think everybody was a real cock to Rousseau for not being a 'real' artist.

I don't give a damn whether people think I'm a fence sitter (there's actually a loose panel by the hedge, if you were wondering), that's their issue - not mine. I'm in pursuit of happiness, and excitemennt, and godsdammit - FUN.

Miserable gits and party poopers can go hang in the kitchen and moan about the music and the smoke. [:)]

Minority outgroups often seem to be the worst when it comes to their own outgroups - having been treated badly by the larger in group doesn't make it ok to imitate that behaviour. (You can insert a snarky and contentious comment about child abuse here if you like)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I'm gonna incur the wrath of every lesbian on the thread now, but in my experience lesbian women are amongst the most hostile and unpleasant people I have ever come across. Quite why this is, I dont know - unrepresentative sample perhaps, but those I've known have generally demonstrated a whole new (to me) level of bitchiness about others who might fall into the LGBT category, and about anyone else who crosses their path too.

I've seen it, but never experienced it against me, directed at trans people, gay men, heterosexuals and especially bisexual women. It may be more a case of reaction to past experience rather than action, may be done with a first strike or fortress mentality, but honestly, the prejudice and hostility I have seen is breathtaking.

And how do I see it? Because, though I'm trans, the lesbians I have come across had no idea of my background, assumed me to be one of their number, and so had no reason to hold anything back. The biggest joke being the way they bitched about trans women, with me there! Its never to anyone's face or in their hearing though.

So to the OP - dont sweat it, honestly. If my experience is anything to go by, if you werent bi, you'd be getting it for some other reason no doubt. And just be thankful youre not a bisexual, trans switch - 'cause that would tick all the boxes!

And to all the lesbians who are going to flame me half to death who are nice people, I'm speaking from my (limited, if a dozen instances is limited), experience only, and I'm sure there must be some very nice lesbian women in the world. Just, I've never come across them. And if anyone checks, yes I'm registered as female lesbian - but thats another story.

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong
I'm getting sick of the "oh I''m so wonderful because I'm just everything to everybody because it's all about me and my enjoyment and needs" then whine because they can't find a partner!  I'm trying to understand it all.. but you folks just make me squirt blood out of my eyes at times.

Be yourself and accept the consequences with grace.  There are times you folks are talking out of both sides of your mouths.   Do you ever READ what you Post???