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gooddogbenji -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:42:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Now hush benji, your gonna get her all excited talking kinky like that.


I think this chick might be the next [screen name deleted]

I swear, I aint bi!

Yours,


benji

Message edited by Mods due to unneccessary evil being uttered.



LaTigresse -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:42:32 PM)

And, did anyone else happen to see "Hello from Topeka" scrolling at the top? I guess there is more than one kinky person in Kansas.

Don't ask me why but the timing of that just cracked me UP!



LadyEllen -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:43:09 PM)

I'd get involved in this from the POV of my "special circumstances"

Might cause the thread to explode though

E



FelinePersuasion -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:44:47 PM)

your post comes off way way more as you with the problem with gay or bisexual men and the acts, and "how gross they are" than his wife potentially might.

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I'd feel more sorry for the obviously straight spouse. Imagine the humiliation of finding out that one's husband had sex with another man. I hope any woman in this situation is able to obtain a private annulment or a very private divorce. Otherwise, while the woman may receive much pity, many men may not want to put their cock somewhere a gay or bisexual cock has been. Alot of straight men are very grossed out by that sort of thing.



LaTigresse -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:45:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I'd get involved in this from the POV of my "special circumstances"

Might cause the thread to explode though

E


LadyE, speaking for myself, personally. I would love it. But then, I am a wee bit of a trouble maker at times.



SamKeithsslave -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:45:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Now hush benji, your gonna get her all excited talking kinky like that.


Well what I find amazing is she found a BI in HER town!! LOL, its obviously not as conservative as she would have us believe [;)]



AquaticSub -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:46:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

Blinks, surely it's not true, a bisexual person professing to be capable of loyalty and monogomy and even...gasp...denial

no - no - I refuse to believe it!

*covers her ears and hums loudly*


"But... but... if you have loving and committed healthy relationships... then you are just like me! ARGH!"



LadyEllen -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:46:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I'd get involved in this from the POV of my "special circumstances"

Might cause the thread to explode though

E


LadyE, speaking for myself, personally. I would love it. But then, I am a wee bit of a trouble maker at times.



Me too. But still I have to try to use this power only for good, from time to time at least.

E



amaidiamond -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 2:47:23 PM)

Shirt off? dildo in hand? *swoons and then gathers herself and runs to her bedroom like a streak of light*



amaidiamond -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 3:04:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

Blinks, surely it's not true, a bisexual person professing to be capable of loyalty and monogomy and even...gasp...denial

no - no - I refuse to believe it!

*covers her ears and hums loudly*


"But... but... if you have loving and committed healthy relationships... then you are just like me! ARGH!"


I refuse, it's not right! it can't be.... noooooooooooo



tinacd -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 3:25:23 PM)

I didn't tell you the whole story, She came home one day and found me dressed up and in selfbondage. She just looked at me for a minute then turn and walked out to stop her friend from walking in on me. They left and I got udressed then dressed in guy clothes and waited for them to come home. She did and we talked about it and she found out that I like to crosdress and then she helped me live out one fantasy. It was about her tieing me up dressed in a teddy with matching panties and stockings and 4" heels in a spread eagle on the bed. she tickle me and made me eat her pussy. Then she let me cum inside her that was the greatest sex I have ever had. I want to do it again a couple of days later and she said I don't want to ever do that agian. I did it to see if it was a thing you were going though so I don't ever want to do it again ever. I hate it. so I stoped for a while and here I am want to do it some more but she will not have anything to do with it.



AquaticSub -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 3:34:53 PM)

Talk to her and find out why she didn't like it. Try to find a compromise.



LadyEllen -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 3:41:51 PM)

Hi Tina

Which aspect did your wife dislike more? The bondage or the crossdressing?

The way I read into what you wrote, the crossdressing is more important to you? I say that because of the detail offered about that aspect. I'm sorry to tell you, you will find many, many threads on this site about crossdressing where whilst some women dont mind and some even like it, they are regrettably very much in the minority. You have to understand, that many women find men attractive as men, and find it disconcerting at the least to find that their man wants to adopt the appearance of a woman, particularly for sex.

Whatever you do, do not throw away your marriage to a woman you love (and who loves you enough to have had sex with you like that when she found it disinteresting), for the sake of a fantasy; one which you are extremely unlikely to ever be able to fulfil, given the responses on previous threads here from women on the subject.

Is there room instead to develop the bondage side instead I'm wondering? Is this aspect, something for which she might have more interest? In my opinion, you stand a much better chance of eventually fulfilling your cd fantasies, if you first show your wife the advantages to her of her taking power in the relationship - and there are big advantages to her in that (The Mistress Manual by Mistress Lorelei gives a good account of this). Concentrate on loving and pleasing her, and maybe just maybe she might be more open eventually to your ideas, inasmuch as they please her. Throwing all of this at her as your need, simply comes across as selfish and uncaring and unloving to her.

E



Aine -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 3:54:25 PM)

Finally, someone who has something sensible to say.  I agree wholeheartedly with LadyEllen on this.

I would give her credit for trying to help you with your fantasy, but it's definitely a good idea to try to keep it as low key as possible right now to let her process things.  Talk to her carefully, and only if she's willing. Show her that you respect her space in this.  Do what you can to make her comfortable again.

Perhaps overtime you two could come to some sort of compromise, perhaps she might get over her initial reactions to it, perhaps it will become an agreement to let you have your time to yourself with it. 

But there is seriously no real reason to end the relationship over this.  At least not before discussing things with her at length first.  Only the two of you can make that kind of a decision.

*edited because I can't finish one thought without continuing onto the next part lol*



amaidiamond -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 3:58:44 PM)

I think the fact that you could talk about it and that she tried it with you is a good sign, it shows communication, and having tried it you have to remember that she has every right to say she didn't like it and that she doesnt wish to do it again and that is her choice and every humans right, I would agree with the suggestion of talking to her, finding out what parts she hated, was there maybe some aspects of it she liked that could be expanded on and the parts she hated removed, if you talk to each other there may well be a solution you can reach.

good luck!



LaTigresse -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/27/2006 5:43:45 PM)

LadyE, you are da bomb!!



ZenDragoness -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/28/2006 12:43:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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In my world it is mostly shades of gray.

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LaTigresse: Your world and my world must have something in common. For me the same goes for absolute truth and real opinions, there is not such a lot  i am sure about, oh one thing comes to mind, if there is no unexpected space crash:: The sun will go down today,,,very early because we are not far away from the shortest days of the year...in the afternoon,,shortly after 4.




ZenDragoness -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/28/2006 12:53:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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They came for the gypies but I was not a gypsy so I did not stand up.
They came for the artists but I was not an artist so I did not stand up.
They came for the Jews but I was not a Jew so I did not stand up.
By the time they came for me, there was no one left to stand up.

Tell, my dear, if you will not stand up for those who are wronged, do you really think anyone will stand up for you?


These are words who originate from an answer Martin Niemöller gave  in 1976 during a discussion in the hall of  a prostetant parish in Kaiserslautern (Germany).

Because there is no audio or video footage there is no exact quote possibly. During the times it became also in Germany a saying and it is often used in varied forms in political contexts.

More information:
http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/niem.htm

or

http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=h-holocaust&month=0004&week=c&msg=kgWwfNZ3wE79KhZnsz46Qw&user=&pw=

or
http://www.h-net.org/~holoweb/

and search for Sybille von Sell or Sibylle Sarah Niemoeller von Sell,
she ist the widow of Martin Niemöller and answered some queries.


For myself this saying/quote(moving or developing quote) is very important and Martin Niemöller sure belongs in my hero gallery.




tinacd -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/28/2006 3:32:53 AM)

Thank you all for your advice it all good stuff. But like you said the ball is in my court and I'm the one who will have to live with what happens. So I will have to make the choice on my own and with your advice. Thank you....................tina



VampX -> RE: Marriage or dream and fantasies (11/29/2006 12:12:19 PM)

Life is way too short, soo...



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