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RE: When a Sir Crosses the Boundaries - 3/11/2005 6:15:48 PM

TallDarkAndWitty

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ORIGINAL: domtimothy46176
Seems to me that if anything should be spoken of with as much reverance as the "gift of submission" it should more rightfully be the "gift" of dominance correctly brought to bear.

Excellent post! A good dominant is a very rare commodity indeed.

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RE: When a Sir Crosses the Boundaries - 3/12/2005 11:16:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: MzBerlin

You cannot "force" someone to be submissive. Just a random thought that popped into my head as I was re-reading this thread. Submission is given. If you have to "beat" it out of someone (pun intended) then where is the 'gift'??
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You're right, in that you cannot force a person to be submissive. They will be submissive to you, or they will not. There is very little you can do, as a Dominant, to influence a person to submit or not, once they have established the fact that they feel submissive to you (or not) in their own minds.

Having said that, there are many submissives who, due to whatever their make up, have a driving desire to have submission 'taken' from them. I would say this is probably more common in male submissives then females, but the crux of the 'fantasy' is to be forced, taken, or otherwise given no alternative. This is the source of blackmail fantasies, and some rape fantasies. Not having played with many, I will go out on a limb and suggest this may be an indication of a 'bottom' who is not otherwise inherently submissive.

These are not traits that are usually healthy in a romantic relationship, Ds or otherwise. It's up there with saying you can't force someone to love you - they either will or will not, based on the person you are.

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