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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/1/2006 2:46:41 PM

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Ok, so from what I understand, one Dom broke his word.
How did a whole generation get involved in this dispute?

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/1/2006 2:50:01 PM

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Here is something that i think sums up the younger generation nicely.

'The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers'

Socrates (c.470 BC - 399 BC) Greek philosopher

twistedwillow - to him we are ALL the younger generation

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/1/2006 2:53:27 PM

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Its a shame you have been hurt, but try not to let that shadow your views.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/1/2006 2:55:42 PM

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'The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers'

Socrates (c.470 BC - 399 BC) Greek philosopher

Wierd how he was arrested and accused of corrupting the youth...hmmm

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/1/2006 4:59:22 PM

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hello
i can say i did not vote for the by the way there have been two so far and how many countless others, i personal did not vote for.
take care and be safe
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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/1/2006 5:15:14 PM

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What a sorry state of affairs this world is, how the most of the young today do not know the importance of standing by their words. I don’t know about most of you but I was raise during a time, when a person was taught that their words were their bonds. And he is only as good as those he keeps.
You would think someone who calls them self a Dom would know and understand that even if he is under the age of forty.
One would think that if a Dom made a promise whether it be big or small that it would be important for him to keep and stop finding reason or excuses to not follow though. But I guess when you are thirty or something promises made are not important. Especially if you made to someone of the older generation
Take care and be safe
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Sorry you got hurt. Not all Doms are the same, and just because someone calls themselves a Dom/me doesn't make them honorable. I think this is true on either side of 40.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/1/2006 7:41:55 PM

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:rolleyes: umm………youve a shallow perspective paying attention only to trivial things like her quote of age just petty concerns and forgetting her topic point. Whats it like living with a one track mind. Ive been called a lowlife uneducated asshole rebel, hell ive even been called the product of a disturbed mind who couldn’t even scratch my own ass if I had a program to help me but I know ignorance. Open up your mind and look around some I promise nothing will fall out.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/1/2006 8:11:34 PM

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**deleted** (because I made the same comment that TwistedWillow did...only not as well or as accurately as she did)

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 8:10:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

All I know is I'm not feeling like a 'younger generation' anymore; not since I started diggin' my mother's taste in handbags.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 9:42:28 AM

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Dear slavejlb,
In your pain, and disappointment, it is easy to lash out. However, I disagree with blanket statements about any group. They are usually said because someone has had one or two bad experiences with a person from whatever that group is and they start to create a stereotype. Consider that if the experience was with an African American Dom and such a statement was made, it would be seen as the racist stereotype it was. People who want to judge young people as having no integrity, or believe all fat people are inviting and cuddly, or all of any group is whatever they have experienced, are really just looking for easy ways to classify their world without further thinking and interacting. I would personally find such closed-minded judgement an unacceptable attribute in a sub, dom or even a friend.
However, all that said, I do still find that in our current culture, many people are more irreverent, irresponsible, or rude than in previous generations. I think you find it in the young and old alike, though the old may remember a time when you could correct stranger's child and not have the parent bite your head off, a time when people actually sent thank you notes for every gift they received and party attended. Sure, there were repressed, hideous things happening in times of old, but I for one, try to live my life with my grandmother's values, in daily politeness at least. As a teacher, I insist on politeness from students to all teachers and other students. It is really the insistence that people be polite, which is not longer socially enforced by our culture. People that have been raised to respect themselves and others will still do so, and therefore, you can find many of us in the younger generation who are polite. If the parenting and teacher influence in their lives guided them in integrity and etiquette, they will be respectful and trustworthy. If they were raised by televisions and machines and "permissive" parents, they generally won't be anything but self-absorbed.

If you've read this far, hopefully you have a different perspective on your experience.

May others be more trustworthy on your journey and may you be open to finding them.

bel

edited merely to add that I'm 27

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 10:07:45 AM

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jd has a point about blaming a whole generation.

Which begs the question: Exactly who poorly raised this spoilt nation of little monsters?

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 10:09:13 AM

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I get hurt quite regularly by people who say that they are part of this lifestyle.
But perhaps I have done my share of hurting unintentionally.
One person's reality can be different than another's.
As I said somewhere else I thought every person who called themselves a slave wanted total power exchange.
I understand now that they don't.
We all have our stories.
But to be completely honest about our needs to a complete stranger takes sheer guts.
But it is better than getting involved before checking out if the two of you are singing from the same hymn sheet.
But if one more slave asks me what I like doing before he knows anything about me as a person I think I might scream.
So the statement was agist and totally uncalled for we know that.
But what were the circumstances leading up to it?
That's what really matters.
Why were you so hurt?
And was it your own fault for reading more into his words than he meant?
I have done it in the past.
So I for one won't blame you if you had. I don't think many people would.
Maybe some/most of us can get carried away when we think that we have found the perfect D/s partner.
Leaping before I looked used to be my favourite occupation lol.
I try not to anymore. And have forgiven myself for the past.
I suggest that you talk over the facts of the situation with someone objective if you can't do it with the person involved.
Of course you may be absolutely right that he is a cad and a bounder. Nice bit of old fashioned language there.
And if he is you have my heartfelt sympathy.
But he might just have been in the sweet shop if he was a new Dom.
I still remember what that was like.
The first fem sub I played with was so helpful with that.
She was such a nice person. I didn't treat her very well I'm afraid. I hope she has forgiven me.
The attention I got went straight to my head. It was like champagne. It takes a lot of time to become a good Dom/me. I was told seven years. I don't know I suppose it's different for everyone.
If I knew how to start a post I would start one on that suject.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 10:14:48 AM

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If I knew how to start a post I would start one on that subject.

go to the community board you want to post in....and then look in the top left corner.....hit new post....fill in a subject line and say what ever you want to say.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 1:37:25 PM

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hello
i am the one who posted this forum and i have to admit yes i have been hurt but it has gone beyond just being mental and emontial hurt. but i have also enjoyed reading the posting from both the young and the old, some of you have wisdom beyond your years. But you had to admit that the younger generation where although not all were left on their own as teenagers mother and fathers working or divorce, and knowing and understanding some of the most basic of coursties is what has made this land as good as it is today.
no not old people are trust worth, nor doms,
and not all people are for lact of a better that exscape me right now selfish brats.
but a person word is their bond,
take care and be safe
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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 3:47:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

You know, you generalizing my generation in the way you do, makes me want to say.....older people are judgemental and other sweeping statements like that.
It is somewhat insulting to be brutally honest.
I will not make statements like that however, because I see each person as an individual.

I wish I could see all the people who think like this when they reach "older". Only then will you realize just what you didn't know or understand. Try not to be embarassed TOO much.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 3:54:33 PM

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http://www.snopes.com/language/document/desidera.htm

This has been on my desk since 1975 :) However, the text is somewhat different at the end.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 4:47:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I wish I could see all the people who think like this when they reach "older". Only then will you realize just what you didn't know or understand. Try not to be embarassed TOO much.

LotusSong has said it best. Time and experience changes peoples perceptions and beliefs. One example: Liberals of the 60's are stunned to find they are the conservatives of 2K.

While I don't feel it is right to lump people into a specific catagory, based on any single issue, I do understand what you are saying. Yet I find that deception comes in all ages, sexes, races, and cultures. So to make a catagory for everyone who has deceived me and to avoid that group, would mean I had no one to talk to but myself.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 4:56:02 PM

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Sorry to have to say this, but a while ago, I was dating 4 women at once.

One of them found out, because she happened to see me with another one of my girls.

She asked me about it.

Blondes are so mistrusting.

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 6:36:49 PM

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And what color is the doggie?

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RE: how sad our younger generation is today - 12/2/2006 6:47:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: Quivver

Age has nothing to do with it. It's what your taught as a child.

I taught myself.

My father is a habitual liar, although his lies tend to be white lies and evasions, with the occaisional lapse skirting the legality or ethics of a certain behavior.

My mother believes my father is one of the most ethical people she has ever met. Although she also believes that Vitamin C and Folic Acid will grant immortality.

But I read books like the Tolkien trilogy which taught me that sometimes a person simply has to do something which is not in their own personal best interest for the sake of the common weal.

I read about chivalry. I read about altruism. Doing the right thing. I read about honor. I read about betrayal. I read about historical figures like Roland, and Ghandi, and Buddha, and Jesus, and the like.

One day I realized that the only person I have to answer to is myself. So I set high standards for myself and I fixed my own moral compass to those standards.

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