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LotusSong -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/5/2006 8:57:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kalira quote: ... but can all those interested do it on some other thread? Believe me Lotus, when I make an ass of myself, it is brought to my attention very quickly [8D] Something that I really do not mind. If superslavetrainer is taking offense...well, then...it is obviously in the wrong place. I find the block button very helpful

Kalira -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/5/2006 9:04:20 AM)
quote: I find the block button very helpful and you are entitled to use it as your whim passes

LotusSong -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/5/2006 9:18:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kalira quote: I find the block button very helpful and you are entitled to use it as your whim passes I shall. Let's see.. Kalira's delete button.. THERE it is. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. (you may want to read how to start your own theads for the future..It's very easy. Geeee..then maybe I can dump on yours~)

Kalira -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/5/2006 9:23:58 AM)
quote: I shall. Let's see.. Kalira's delete button.. THERE it is. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. (you may want to read how to start your own theads for the future..It's very easy. Geeee..then maybe I can dump on yours~) /grins with pleasure [8D]

Tikkiee -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/5/2006 9:25:43 AM)
Geesh ladies take a chill pill

AquaticSub -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/5/2006 11:50:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007 See this was a nice post. It is ok to question me, im questioned all the time. That dont bother me. Its not that you question but how you question. I didnt come to these boards with a post saying " who is going to be my slave tonight?" i replied to a topic and gave my opinion on that topic. this right their should of told you before we start pointing our flamethrowers at him we should read a few more of his post . Most people can decide if they like or dislike someone by taking in their replies on topics, in real life or online. i wasnt given that chance i made one post with an at least semi reasonable opinion that disrespected no one and i was immidately decided to be a lier, fraud and everything else and i needed to give proof i wasnt. My experience to some may seem impossible.. then again i thought to swallow a 21" sword and not seriously injure yourself was impossible too until i saw it was possible. I can think of many things in the lifestyle( the whole lifestyle when i was teen surprised me as i though theirs no way people do those things and are like that) that i thought were impossible and someone at one point or another showed me different. The reference to the bible is touchy subject however it is one that most everyone understands, so to get everyone on the same level i had to use it. It seems alot of people here are wrapped up in facts. as if they are trying to define their way of life based on what someone else has wrote( which by all means is fine the Goreans do it all the time) but dont try to impose your beliefs based on what you give credit too as that by "experts" and everything else is wrong. it may be wrong to you but its not to me..i think living your life "by the book" and thats any book is wrong, but thats my opinion and if anyone feels the need /desire to live that way, more power to them. I agree if a general majority agree on a topic( those in the majority being people who have been actively involved with said subject for a lengthy amount of time, i will refrain from calling them experts at this point as i do not believe they are) then it pretty much is agreed on to be fact for that subject/topic. However, In bdsm getting anyone group to agree with any other group all being part of the same community, to agree on anything is highly unlikely. Opinions are to diverse. Ive actually sat throught lengthy discussions( but did not actively particpate) of people debating the meaning of each letter in BDSM. and none of the sides could neither prove they was right or the other side was wrong. I just was in a discussion last week about the defination of master and how it was intended, implied, used, and misused. everyone had an opinion no one had facts. BDSM is so diverse and has so many interuptations and so many different opinions you cant really make a decent book of facts about it unless it involves historic facts. and the diversatity of BDSM is one thing that makes it appealing to newcomers ( IMO) Those taboo things people fantasize about they can pretty much do here. and again IMO they dont have to be a Dom/sub to enjoy those freedoms that come with this lifestyle. they can "play" in it, discuss it with others that have done or want to do it, or simply ask about it and no one is going to think they are weird insane strange or belong in a nuthouse. BDSM needs that appeal of openess and welcome all. Not judgements and criticism and discrediations and disrespect. Those who been on CM a while and have 6 million post. newcomers look at that. they look at how you act, how you talk to them , how you treat people. they have other way offhand to tell who new and who has been around awhile. and TBH in general those are the same exact people that start the flames and not just on me. ive seen it on quite a few others that were new to these boards. If i wasnt use to flamers and i didnt have the experience i have in this lifestyle, you would of scared the hell out of me. i would of left and never came back. Imagine how many inexperienced doms and subs havent even posted and seen some of the flames at newcomers on here and tucked tail and ran like hell . This is an overwhelming lifestyle when your new to it. it seems as vast as the universe which is damn scary in itself. you feel like columbus discovering america and the first thing they see is guns pointed and every newcomers head. This is what makes me feel ashamed. Dom or not if your new it can be pretty scary especially with people with thosands of post counts flaming at you. How many people read the boards felt overwhelmed and never came back? how many of those people that were drove off before they could prove they wasnt here for an e-lay?What are they doing now? are they attempting to whip some girl with a cat whip?are they trying to dom vanillas and becoming overly agressive through frustation at not know why this isnt working? I was a noob once to this lifestyle and thank god i had subs and Doms both that were patient enough with me to answer my neverending stupid questions( especially the ones about" what does that mean?") i am alot more experienced now. i have Dom/sub relationships under my belt. Ive learned to manage more than one girl at a time( and those girls have the understanding their will be other other girls or that possiblity) though i cant managed two "serious" relationships at the same time( though ive tried and it didnt work to well, needing more practice im guessing) Ive done alot of chatting and reading online as well and tried to take in( but fail to remember) everyones points of views. I think of myself as a trainer and teacher. I think i have enough experience to at least give the noobs a start and direction to go in instead of wondering around this realm lost. This is why i classify myself as a trainer.i dont classifiy myself as an expert in anything regarding BDSM ( though it may say so on my profile on things i really love just because i love and spend alot of time in that area). I want to return the courtesy and patiences shown to me by my former " trainers" who helped to make all this lifestyle has to offer not so damn overwhelming. The slave part of the my name of course means i want to train /teach subs. I do help doms, if i can, with questions, but nowhere near to the extent of subs. I think a well versed sub would do a better job at teaching a dom about this lifestyle and vice versa but thats my opinion. I would of gladly told everyone here this had i been asked in a polite way instead of instantly accused of being a criminal looking for my next victim. I would like to see some the extremely active posters be more newcomer friendly.. or at least quit trying to scare them off. Im sure everyone reading this has had help from someone along the way, How about "paying forward" that favor someone did you when you was a noob to BDSM. Instead of trying to scare the living daylights out of everyone . In the least, at least leave the noobs alone for a while and let them at least prove they are sincere before you go circling them. quote: Have you thought about furthering your own training? i dont think about it i do it everyday, or try to. Im human, i make mistakes, i try to learn from them and not repeat them. I figure when i can go an indefinate amount of time without making a single mistake i will be both perfect and Master.Until then i cannot claim to be either. Ok, maybe you haven't checked out the atmosphere of the forums but we are a bunch of evil, scarastic bastards. Ya got corrected. Deal with it. I can have the opinion that the sky is orange, doesn't make me right. And as a trainer, yes you should be looking to gain more information all the time. You are a teacher. How can you teach if you aren't learning?

darkbigdaddy -> RE: Teenish Masters 18 yrs + (12/5/2006 12:36:30 PM)
I have two points in this reply. 1. You got to start somewhere. At 18 yo and in the super sexual world its hard to find your sexual place. ALL the hormones, media AND information - it is really a lot. My brother, 17 told me he had told oral and anal sex with a bunch of friends but never vaginal. With that said, they (the kids) have the information and lack of taboos. As such they try things at a much younger age than we would of. 2. Why not? I wish at 18 I would of been comfortable tying up a 40 yo woman and spanking her ass red. The first time I dominated a girl frankly the "submissive" basically picked me up at a bar, told me what to do, and drove me back to my dorm room. She was WAY too much woman for me at the time but it worked out. Yes, its hard to imagine a kid would can barely drive a car and had never shaved as a Master but that is only because we are old(er). I frankly have a problem with 30 chicks going with 50 and 60 guys but its the same thing and I guess I'm perfect.

PONYSEEKER -> RE: Teenish Masters 18 yrs + (12/5/2006 2:13:34 PM)
Is there a humiliation factor in submitting to this boy.. that the boy might not be aware of?

Slavetrainer2007 -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/5/2006 9:37:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LordODiscipline quote: ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007 FFS, does anyone that writes to me know reading comprehension? "Do you know grammer and proper word usage?", is also a good question to scream while you are ranting to the gods of cyber ;) quote: you know ive been on boards with people that are 10 and 12 years old ( not an adult board obvisiously) that take less things out of context. SEE! You (too) judge others and, rather critically (albeit ineffectively) as well! quote: what i stated concerning the history of BDSM i clearly stated as my opinion. it was my view of the history of bdsm. actually it was my opinion of how master/slave became so commonly misused. NOT how it came to be used. Say what you like - but, a misrepresentation of history is not exactly something which can be colored as opinion - it is either 'right' or it is 'wrong' *And, yes - there are means by which opinion can color it... but, those are minor -and, not the major imaginings of entire sections of it.* quote: i have the following incorrect 1) you never judge another person 2) you show common respect( this would be respect you show to the average person you see everyday) so by your standards im incorrect and the person who taught me the above the values( NOT FACTS) is also incorrect. *Seperate issues entirely... but, nice try at muddying the waters...* *You made statements about BDSM history.. and, in your last posting you made the statement about 'judging others' - seperate times and seperate instances.* *You stated that no one could (or, should) "judge you" and that it was frowned upon in BDSM when "you were taught it".* *I pointed out that you were full of horse hockey and that the edict was "do not judge another's kink"* *But, your's is a common misconception among people on line.* quote: Humans judge as instinct: judging it what helps us formulate our opinions about something. this again would be taken as the way you wanted. hasnt your mother or father or some adult when you was younger told you " you shouldnt judge people" this is the same context im using it in. you dont know me well enough to "judge me accurately" or form an accurate opinion of me. ( also know as an impression.) i am judged on my name or profile, which is only very small idea of who i am or might be. however i was judged on this profile and name and it was decided that i was needed to validate myself and my ablitles to people who are interested in neither. My parents never told me that. In fact they encouraged me to question others when they said something which is rather - well - "fabricated"... they are good people and did not want their little boy to be seen as a fool to everyone with a shiney story and a lollypop. quote: - you ASSUME im fibbing, lying or making false claims.. so back up your claim that im lying. i can prove and have stated that i can prove who i am, what i do and the people that experience said relations with me .. were satsified with my abilities, and sincereness. What i stated as part of my lil resume post and as a clarification to celeste of my resume post was fact that i can back up. my question is can you or anyone else on this board back up your assumation or rovers that i am lying? I also implied i wasnt posting said references or in anyway making them available to every tom dick and mary that wanted to call me on them. Then prove it - until you actually do prove your specious allegations you may weedle about all you desire to no result. quote: your right i dont but since this is the continued path a few would like to take this thread, i dont at all mind responding. this in the very least spurs creative thinking. Though it is disrespectful to the OPs.but to hell with respect right? Hey - you are the one who started posting about your 'grand self'... rather hypocritical of you. quote: I gave my opinion/view and this is yours. from my point of view it has from yours it hasnt.. are we going to play these kiddy games all night? *I refer to them as "on line games" - as I know I would never run into you off line.* quote: i was respectful until i was disrespected for unwarranted and invalid reasons( IMO) and i remain respectful to those that show the same common respect towards me. everyone else can join my 3rd grade class following me around like a bunch of puppies. I am having fun actually... if it were not that your claims were so outrageous, I would not be here talking to you. I canot speak for the others, but YOU are a magnet for this puppy! quote: Interesting how in part of your post you state my 130 slaves ( which means you read the whole resume post) yet you only speak of my online experience, this would be commonly be taken as an insult.. but i can only laugh and tell you join the rest of my 3rd graders. btw ill need your resume that qualifies you to validate me, my experience, or my history on my desk my 3 pm. *I did not read it - but, what would it matter if I 'did' or 'did not'? And, I am not "validating you"..LOL... you invalidated yourself with the assertions..* quote: this was an ill attempt( im going to take it that way but this may not be how you attended.) and making a crack about me using validate in my post, as it is most commonly associated with one parking their automobile... or having someone else do it for them instead. *I told the other third graders you were not dense! You can read and everything!* quote: You know the10-50 year olds on the RPG forums that are flamers are MUCH better at this than the flamers here. *They probably believe your stories too. After all - having that much experienc at RPGs really prepares one for training slaves and speaking to the adults* *Good talking to you... say hello to Spock for me.* ~J This has became a pissing match, to see which can piss on me the longest without me discrediting everything they say. Their is a big difference beween grammar punctuation, etc and reading comprehension. See i CHOOSE not to use proper grammar and punctuation because this isnt a college english class, and i have better things to do than proofread and fix typographical errors. On the otherhand if you have poor reading comprehension, this shows a lack of ability to understand what is being said. therefore you read " i want green eggs and ham" as " i want breakfast" which could mean any varity of the normal breakfast foods and vice versa. I could sit here and continue to discredit these flames night after night, but those of you that feel the need to follow me around the threads and turn every one into a flame thread at me are showing alot of disrespect for everyone else on these boards. as i stated, you may message me any of your problems or concerns with me and ill be more than happy to reply in such manner. You may even start an entire thread( again as ive stated previously) in the most approiate main thread in which those who wish to flame at me can do so without derailing and hijacking every thread on here. If you do please message me with location of said thread. I will, as my time allows, provided i dont have any other interesting subjects to post on at the time, respond and discredit, in order of post every single post you make against me as i have so far done in various threads. IF your reading comprehension will allow you to grasp what i have just said, then you will refrain from the derailments of threads i post in. Those of you that fail this reading comprehension and continue to post flames and other childish behavior will simply be blocked so i dont have to deal with your childishness.Apparently, if i have to block you, your just making stabs in the dark due to a lack of understanding and im not going to keep trying to teach a blind person what the color "red" is.

Slavetrainer2007 -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/5/2006 10:16:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007 See this was a nice post. It is ok to question me, im questioned all the time. That dont bother me. Its not that you question but how you question. I didnt come to these boards with a post saying " who is going to be my slave tonight?" i replied to a topic and gave my opinion on that topic. this right their should of told you before we start pointing our flamethrowers at him we should read a few more of his post . Most people can decide if they like or dislike someone by taking in their replies on topics, in real life or online. i wasnt given that chance i made one post with an at least semi reasonable opinion that disrespected no one and i was immidately decided to be a lier, fraud and everything else and i needed to give proof i wasnt. My experience to some may seem impossible.. then again i thought to swallow a 21" sword and not seriously injure yourself was impossible too until i saw it was possible. I can think of many things in the lifestyle( the whole lifestyle when i was teen surprised me as i though theirs no way people do those things and are like that) that i thought were impossible and someone at one point or another showed me different. The reference to the bible is touchy subject however it is one that most everyone understands, so to get everyone on the same level i had to use it. It seems alot of people here are wrapped up in facts. as if they are trying to define their way of life based on what someone else has wrote( which by all means is fine the Goreans do it all the time) but dont try to impose your beliefs based on what you give credit too as that by "experts" and everything else is wrong. it may be wrong to you but its not to me..i think living your life "by the book" and thats any book is wrong, but thats my opinion and if anyone feels the need /desire to live that way, more power to them. I agree if a general majority agree on a topic( those in the majority being people who have been actively involved with said subject for a lengthy amount of time, i will refrain from calling them experts at this point as i do not believe they are) then it pretty much is agreed on to be fact for that subject/topic. However, In bdsm getting anyone group to agree with any other group all being part of the same community, to agree on anything is highly unlikely. Opinions are to diverse. Ive actually sat throught lengthy discussions( but did not actively particpate) of people debating the meaning of each letter in BDSM. and none of the sides could neither prove they was right or the other side was wrong. I just was in a discussion last week about the defination of master and how it was intended, implied, used, and misused. everyone had an opinion no one had facts. BDSM is so diverse and has so many interuptations and so many different opinions you cant really make a decent book of facts about it unless it involves historic facts. and the diversatity of BDSM is one thing that makes it appealing to newcomers ( IMO) Those taboo things people fantasize about they can pretty much do here. and again IMO they dont have to be a Dom/sub to enjoy those freedoms that come with this lifestyle. they can "play" in it, discuss it with others that have done or want to do it, or simply ask about it and no one is going to think they are weird insane strange or belong in a nuthouse. BDSM needs that appeal of openess and welcome all. Not judgements and criticism and discrediations and disrespect. Those who been on CM a while and have 6 million post. newcomers look at that. they look at how you act, how you talk to them , how you treat people. they have other way offhand to tell who new and who has been around awhile. and TBH in general those are the same exact people that start the flames and not just on me. ive seen it on quite a few others that were new to these boards. If i wasnt use to flamers and i didnt have the experience i have in this lifestyle, you would of scared the hell out of me. i would of left and never came back. Imagine how many inexperienced doms and subs havent even posted and seen some of the flames at newcomers on here and tucked tail and ran like hell . This is an overwhelming lifestyle when your new to it. it seems as vast as the universe which is damn scary in itself. you feel like columbus discovering america and the first thing they see is guns pointed and every newcomers head. This is what makes me feel ashamed. Dom or not if your new it can be pretty scary especially with people with thosands of post counts flaming at you. How many people read the boards felt overwhelmed and never came back? how many of those people that were drove off before they could prove they wasnt here for an e-lay?What are they doing now? are they attempting to whip some girl with a cat whip?are they trying to dom vanillas and becoming overly agressive through frustation at not know why this isnt working? I was a noob once to this lifestyle and thank god i had subs and Doms both that were patient enough with me to answer my neverending stupid questions( especially the ones about" what does that mean?") i am alot more experienced now. i have Dom/sub relationships under my belt. Ive learned to manage more than one girl at a time( and those girls have the understanding their will be other other girls or that possiblity) though i cant managed two "serious" relationships at the same time( though ive tried and it didnt work to well, needing more practice im guessing) Ive done alot of chatting and reading online as well and tried to take in( but fail to remember) everyones points of views. I think of myself as a trainer and teacher. I think i have enough experience to at least give the noobs a start and direction to go in instead of wondering around this realm lost. This is why i classify myself as a trainer.i dont classifiy myself as an expert in anything regarding BDSM ( though it may say so on my profile on things i really love just because i love and spend alot of time in that area). I want to return the courtesy and patiences shown to me by my former " trainers" who helped to make all this lifestyle has to offer not so damn overwhelming. The slave part of the my name of course means i want to train /teach subs. I do help doms, if i can, with questions, but nowhere near to the extent of subs. I think a well versed sub would do a better job at teaching a dom about this lifestyle and vice versa but thats my opinion. I would of gladly told everyone here this had i been asked in a polite way instead of instantly accused of being a criminal looking for my next victim. I would like to see some the extremely active posters be more newcomer friendly.. or at least quit trying to scare them off. Im sure everyone reading this has had help from someone along the way, How about "paying forward" that favor someone did you when you was a noob to BDSM. Instead of trying to scare the living daylights out of everyone . In the least, at least leave the noobs alone for a while and let them at least prove they are sincere before you go circling them. quote: Have you thought about furthering your own training? i dont think about it i do it everyday, or try to. Im human, i make mistakes, i try to learn from them and not repeat them. I figure when i can go an indefinate amount of time without making a single mistake i will be both perfect and Master.Until then i cannot claim to be either. Ok, maybe you haven't checked out the atmosphere of the forums but we are a bunch of evil, scarastic bastards. Ya got corrected. Deal with it. I can have the opinion that the sky is orange, doesn't make me right. And as a trainer, yes you should be looking to gain more information all the time. You are a teacher. How can you teach if you aren't learning? Being evil and sarcastic dont bother me. Its the fact some need to turn threads into childish flames because i dont agree with their point of view or that their point of view isnt fact. So far i have not seen any facts on these boards, its either opinions or opinion on facts. either way its opinions. some try to twist it into facts about my opinion or values and how they are wrong. For instance i was told in one of my post where i wrote and this is restatement of what i said/implied/meant/etc. " the first two things i learned in BDSM were:1)not to judge others.2) you show common respect" Im going to tell you the line quoted here is FACT, because this is how original source stated/implied/meant/etc it, which by the way is me. See what got twisted is someone tried to pass this off as me stating some BDSM history somewhere and getting it wrong. I never said according to (anything). these were the first two things i learned. I was told the first two things you 'will ' learn is ( above in "") that was an opinion/value by that person. Those were two things i learned very quickly, thus im stating it as fact because i ca being the original author of said quote. The thing is some people on here are so wrapped up on their facts , they can no longer tell what is fact and opinion ( most things ever said anywhere by anyone are opinions BTW) and if they cant find it somewhere they consider "factual evidence" to be and you dont supply a reference then it is wrong despite the fact that you never wrote/implied/ stated it was fact. This is only one of the many discrediation i have to discredit and misguidance or lack of reading comprehension or something along the lines. " I can have the opinion that the sky is orange, doesn't make me right" but your not stating an opinion your stating a fact. what color the sky is universally accepted. and in this instance at certain times of the day you would be right the sky is orange ... but i know their are people that would feel the need to bring out the fact book and say its blue. Im always look to gain more information, i am more interested in opinions than facts on this matter. If i wanted facts i would go to the "horses mouth" and not get them second hand from someone on a board who will interpret their own meaning of that fact, by nature( ever play the telephone game when you was younger?) i take everything on here i read as someone elses opinion, references or not. I leave the facts to unversially crediable sources, where they belong, and will go to such sources if i wish to know the "fact of the matter" . its not hard to "google" subjects

Squeakers -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 4:11:00 AM)
quote: See i CHOOSE not to use proper grammar and punctuation because this isnt a college english class, and i have better things to do than proofread and fix typographical errors . Slavetrainer---I've been watching this thread for several days and have not posted simply because #1--I am not a teenish Master and #2---because I don't like debating about the history of BDSM, I've never gotten deeply into the study of it, therefore because I am not a historian of this art, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Through your many posts on this thread, you have expressed that many people have helped you along the way. Saying this, I want to express that this is in no way a 'flame' against you or anyone else on the boards but in response to the above quote I feel I must response to it. Observations are made about people everyday, one of those ways to make an observation is through language. If a person goes in for a job interview and says, "I am a fucking whiz on the computer and my skills are fucking awesome," despite the fact that he or she is really truly the best person for the job, the way that person has presented themselves through his or her language skills is probably going to be the deciding factor and more than likely the choice colorful language is going to award the job to someone else with perhaps less skills. Here the method of language is written. Regardless of the fact that this message board is not a college English class, a person may make observations about a person based on how he or she has presented themselves through the written word. I've read a number of Rover's posts not only here but on some MSN group message boards, however I have never spoken to him personally. I've also read a number of posts by LOD. Both of them write in a way that comes across as articulate and intelligent. Although I may not always agree with what message they might have posted, because of the way they have chosen to use their write their posts, it does deserve my respect. Archer is another one who writes well and although I have not read many of his posts he writes in a manner which I respect. The fact that a person chooses not to write in a manner that is intelligent, can severely hobble them. If they know how to communicate effectively and with intelligence and choose not to can put them in the lazy catagory. For some the written way of communication can be a challenging hurdle. English is one of the most difficult languages to learn. I am sure there are many who struggle each and every day due to some disability that would give their right arm to write a simple paragraph without misspelling every other word and let their sentences flow so they make sense and not nonsense. As a submissive, my journey has been one of constant learning. I once thought after X amount of year, I would know it all and could make sense of things. However, at age 39 and 15+ years as a submissive, I have learned that whether it's real life or the lifestyle, my learning is not something that is going to end anytime soon. I expect that I will have some lesson to learn each and everyday at least until I get oldtimers disease and can't even remember to use the bathroom. But I embrace the learning. With that said, if I were a submissive seeking a trainer or a Master in this lifestyle, I would have to pick someone who can teach me. If I were a newcomer to CM and seeking, chances are I would prev profiles and hit the message boards. For me, I think much can be said about a person from their posts. Suppose I happened on this post and I read through it. Now let's say I don't know anything about the history of BDSM but I must draw an observation of who is probably right in this area and who would be a good potential trainer for me. Do I pick one of the ones who has presented their history in a way that is intelligent backed up with facts or the one who gives their oppinion in a pompous arrogant manner who has time to reply with long winded sermons that make no sense and are difficult to read because he 'chooses' to write this way simply because he lacks time to edit it due to the fact he is 'living' the lifestyle but has more posts than anyone? Well, your posts so far number in double digits on this thread and the other three (Archer, Rover and LOD) are still in single digits. So I wonder who actually has more time to live 'real' life and still have time to write in a manner that is worthy of my respect. If I were deciding whom to send an introduction email to, it would be Archer, Rover or LOD, of course based on their profiles and what they were seeking (and really I have not read any of them). Honestly based on the interactions here on this thread alone, I probably would not even bother looking at your profile. My observations would be, this man does not care about himself as he has already stated he is lazy and can not be bothered with editing his posts and is too busy to do so therefore he would probably be too busy to train me, furthermore, if he doesn't care about himself, how is he going to care about me. Even if one is merely training someone and there is no emotional connection they must care about training that sub therefore caring about her in some degree. Slavetrainer, even a Dominant with many years experience can not close himself off to learning nor can he take an easy way out of things. If he does there is no room for growth. If a Dominant has 20+ years of time invested in the lifestyle but he has closed down his resources for growth and learning two years into it, that 20 years doesn't mean a damn thing. He has 20 years invested but without learning and growth, he still has only 2 years of knowledge. It is my hope that you learn something from this thread. Knowing what little I know about BDSM, through reading, I know that Rover, Archer and LOD are knowledgable in the history. It's a history that can not in any way be compared to the bible. I don't think in were Rover, Archer or LOD condesending in their approach to teach facts about the lifestyle. I think that perhaps their efforts to teach you should be respect and I hope their efforts were not in vain. Please since you expressed a thrist for learning, don't disregard it when it is presented to you. If you think their approach was wrong thats fine, however, don't close your mind to it. I wish you luck in your journey.

Kalira -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 4:43:34 AM)
Nice Squeakers [:)] /claps loudly

amaidiamond -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 5:00:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: Kalira ~~FR to the OP ~~ Have you ever considered the fact that maybe these young folk grew up in such an environment and that this may be what gives them the idea that they know something about it? No one thinks twice when someone at that same young age lays claim to experience at being submissive; yet we question those who lay the same claim to being Dominant/Master. /shrug Bolding mine. Excellent point Kalira. I have had fantasies of submission since I was a young child (but more about my slightly fucked childhood later) and had rape fantasies starting the age of 11. I have known and understood myself to be a submissive since I was 18 and no one has ever questioned me. However, I get plenty of e-mails telling me that my dominant is too young to a be master and that I'm a fool. He's 22 and he's a lot newer to this then I am. But considering everything he does to me on a regular basis, his punishments and his rewards (not even going to go into the scenes we play out), I know he is a dominant. He may be inexperienced but that doesn't make him any less a dominant. I find the same thing.... I had fantasys if you call them that from about the age of 12, pushed it all into my head for a couple of years, started trying to make sense of it at 14, the internet wasnt so widly avaliable then unfortunutley, when I was 16 I started exploring (age of consent here 16) then once I was 18 and could go out on the scene as it were I jumped in feet first. I am 24 now, and no-one bats an eyelid at the fact I am a submissive, no-one batter one when I was 18 either so I see no reason why a Dom cannot go into it the same way as I did but from the other side. I got emails telling me my Dom is awful and how i should come serve a propper Master (them). Yes he is 23 and yes he is less experienced than I am but he is naturally Dominant, and the one thing that keeps me with him more than anything is that he draws respect from me, not becuase I think I should or its appropriate, but because I respect him for who he is, his attitude, the ability with which he handles me, my insecuritys, fears, questions. I push him, I really do and it isn't intentional, I make an effort to try not to but it happens, I think one reason being that in my last relationship that was a few years long every time i pushed a boundery it vanished, there was no structure, but even when I push he is firm, I know my bounderys, I know my limits, I know where i can an cannot go and I know that he inspires something in me that I thought was dead. So yep, 23 or not, I am more than happy to put myself in his hands..

AquaticSub -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 6:00:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007 This has became a pissing match, to see which can piss on me the longest without me discrediting everything they say. Their is a big difference beween grammar punctuation, etc and reading comprehension. See i CHOOSE not to use proper grammar and punctuation because this isnt a college english class, and i have better things to do than proofread and fix typographical errors. IF your reading comprehension will allow you to grasp what i have just said, then you will refrain from the derailments of threads i post in. Those of you that fail this reading comprehension and continue to post flames and other childish behavior will simply be blocked so i dont have to deal with your childishness.Apparently, if i have to block you, your just making stabs in the dark due to a lack of understanding and im not going to keep trying to teach a blind person what the color "red" is. So reading between lines: "I'm lazy and can't be bothered to hit the shift key all the time." Laziness does make for such a good trainer quality, doesn't it? "I'm very upset that my thread went in a direction I didn't want it to. I'm going to whine about it now." Because that doesn't happen to anybody else. It's just you.

AquaticSub -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 6:05:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007 Being evil and sarcastic dont bother me. Its the fact some need to turn threads into childish flames because i dont agree with their point of view or that their point of view isnt fact. So far i have not seen any facts on these boards, its either opinions or opinion on facts. either way its opinions. some try to twist it into facts about my opinion or values and how they are wrong. For instance i was told in one of my post where i wrote and this is restatement of what i said/implied/meant/etc. " the first two things i learned in BDSM were:1)not to judge others.2) you show common respect" Im going to tell you the line quoted here is FACT, because this is how original source stated/implied/meant/etc it, which by the way is me. See what got twisted is someone tried to pass this off as me stating some BDSM history somewhere and getting it wrong. I never said according to (anything). these were the first two things i learned. I was told the first two things you 'will ' learn is ( above in "") that was an opinion/value by that person. Those were two things i learned very quickly, thus im stating it as fact because i ca being the original author of said quote. The thing is some people on here are so wrapped up on their facts , they can no longer tell what is fact and opinion ( most things ever said anywhere by anyone are opinions BTW) and if they cant find it somewhere they consider "factual evidence" to be and you dont supply a reference then it is wrong despite the fact that you never wrote/implied/ stated it was fact. This is only one of the many discrediation i have to discredit and misguidance or lack of reading comprehension or something along the lines. " I can have the opinion that the sky is orange, doesn't make me right" but your not stating an opinion your stating a fact. what color the sky is universally accepted. and in this instance at certain times of the day you would be right the sky is orange ... but i know their are people that would feel the need to bring out the fact book and say its blue. Im always look to gain more information, i am more interested in opinions than facts on this matter. If i wanted facts i would go to the "horses mouth" and not get them second hand from someone on a board who will interpret their own meaning of that fact, by nature( ever play the telephone game when you was younger?) i take everything on here i read as someone elses opinion, references or not. I leave the facts to unversially crediable sources, where they belong, and will go to such sources if i wish to know the "fact of the matter" . its not hard to "google" subjects Ok so... your thread got hijacked. It turned into something different. Read the other threads, this happens all the time. You aren't special in this regard. The sky being blue is a universally accepted fact. Just like here, it's very accepted fact that the use of slave and master came long before Gor even arrived. I still maintain my opinion that if the entire amount of energy you are willing extend to research and learning is hitting up Google, you are a rather bad trainer. Books, people, books! Books tell us more then Google, they provide a window into another person's experience and help us form our own opinions. And besides, the internet is never ever wrong! cackles insanely

LordODiscipline -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 6:46:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007 This has became a pissing match, to see which can piss on me the longest without me discrediting everything they say. *No - I am simply making fun of the things you are saying. Big difference between that and having a "pissing match" - there would have to be some competition... I am not involved in that.* quote: Their is a big difference beween grammar punctuation, etc and reading comprehension. *OK - You earned a banana on that one; but, i am not sure why you would mention this.* quote: See i CHOOSE not to use proper grammar and punctuation because this isnt a college english class, and i have better things to do than proofread and fix typographical errors. So - publically demonstrating ignorance and/or personal laziness is a "key element" in being a "trainer" on line? quote: On the otherhand if you have poor reading comprehension, this shows a lack of ability to understand what is being said. therefore you read " i want green eggs and ham" as " i want breakfast" which could mean any varity of the normal breakfast foods and vice versa. *Demonstating an uncanny flair for the obvious?* quote: I could sit here and continue to discredit these flames night after night, but those of you that feel the need to follow me around the threads and turn every one into a flame thread at me are showing alot of disrespect for everyone else on these boards. *And, as I mentioned - you started this by speaking about things totally unrelated to the original post (at which point you were called on them)... hence the "hypocritical you" comment.* *Or, did you fail to understand that previously (reading comprehension issues? - ask the doctor to check for 'lysdexia')* quote: as i stated, you may message me any of your problems or concerns with me and ill be more than happy to reply in such manner. You may even start an entire thread( again as ive stated previously) in the most approiate main thread in which those who wish to flame at me can do so without derailing and hijacking every thread on here. If you do please message me with location of said thread. I will, as my time allows, provided i dont have any other interesting subjects to post on at the time, respond and discredit, in order of post every single post you make against me as i have so far done in various threads. *Good of you... but, no need... I am comfortable* quote: IF your reading comprehension will allow you to grasp what i have just said, then you will refrain from the derailments of threads i post in. Those of you that fail this reading comprehension and continue to post flames and other childish behavior will simply be blocked so i dont have to deal with your childishness.Apparently, if i have to block you, your just making stabs in the dark due to a lack of understanding and im not going to keep trying to teach a blind person what the color "red" is. You would have to be "sighted" in order to understand what the color "red" is... and, thus far, you have more than adequately demonstrated a significant lack of visual accuity for WIITWD. Sincerely your's ~J

strangefruit -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 9:00:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kalira quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: Kalira quote: Damn. How the hell would you have time unless that is your full-time job? How would you list that on your taxes anyway? [8\|] I'm seeing a spandex suit with a flogger on it. OMG LMAO that visual is sooooooooo funny. Spandex suit with the words 'superslavetrainer' in bright letters across the front, holding a plastic flogger in one hand and a kiddy cane in the other. LOL omg I'm still giggling over that.

strangefruit -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 9:17:50 AM)
So like, I'm coming into all of this rather...late. SlaveTrainer...I don't know you. And to be honest, my attention span isn't long enough to read through the length of your posts! I also had to really stop myself from correcting your grammar and your spelling. I'm a writer. I love to write. I live for writing. So when it comes to that, I'm a bit of a snob; I'll freely admit that. But I don't think I could ever take anyone seriously who doesn't care enough to edit what he is writing so that he makes sure that what he is saying is understood. Because to me, if he doesn't care enough about something as simple as taking pride in how his words come across, why on earth would I allow that man take control of me and be responsible for my training? Do you understand where I am coming from? You can't be bothered? Well, you kind of...need to. And 134 is a ridiculous number. I just can't imagine getting trained exclusively online by some random man and thinking 'welp, I've learned all I need to know...now I'm going to start subbing for people!' And I can't help but get the feeling that these girls you trained typed a little something like 'PLZ TRANE ME MAZTER. I WANT TO PLZ U. HOW R GOOD U BE A MASTER? I WANT BE GOOD SLVE 4 U.' Because any girl that's like 'whoa! he totally trained 134 slaves...in a year no less..he must be awesome!' I'm not trying to minimalize your work...I'm just saying that from this end...claiming such seems to be juvenile within its own right.

reofbl -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 11:17:39 AM)
First, I must note, it's ironic that a thread on the possible short comings of younger Masters, in part due to a lack of maturity, has found that subjective lack in many of those discussing it. Moving on.. I would not claim to see age is that end-all factor of Masterhood, nor would I discount it as an indicator. One must observe correlations to come to a correct conclusion. In examining this issue, one must consider what portion of a person is developed by which age. Many attributes are fully developed by biological maturity. Such as: -Speech -Dexterity -Reasoning abilities -Physical aspects Many of the attributes which come with the young adult age decay with adulthood. I bring up the previous point to say that it is silly to assume a profiency comes merely with age, especially considering the contributatory skills are in decline past one's mid-twenty's in something of a power decay slope. Personally? I find people to be quite the way they will be early on. Time often brings minor improvements, but, rather infrequently, leaps and bounds. One learns to deal with situations at a more specific level with past experiences in account, though the base level logic dictating the handling actually comes into decay. As a young Master, I find myself capable of handling my slaves. I care for them, tend to them, and support them. As I've seen it phrased, "a stern command and a gentle hand." Now, when I say "slaves", I refer to those of my own approximate age. I'm not sure if I would be a good Master for an older slave. I rather doubt her physical endurance or vigor would match mine, nor would her interest in the mundane deviances of the environment. Her life would be slower paced, not with the frantic zeal that comes with our mad rush to finish college and find a career. Her inner child would, I imagine, be more distant. Finally, I take great joy in training my slaves. It is the dominant principles of the art that are my concern: those that are learned in the early days. It would be disinteresting to train an older slave in mundane tasks, such as how to properly perform some task, respond in social situations, or regard me. In youth, my slaves are mostly first-time, learning and finding previously unshared passions. Emotional baggage is an absolute minimia with regards to the lifestyle and initial impressions are taking form. It is in my view that a slave isn't truly another's unless her very mind is. (Then again, I'm quite strongly into domination.) This is to say, should a slave obey every command her Master puts out, she is not necessarily his. Her heart, mind, and soul must be into it for him- not her own reasons outside of those specifically for him. (This is with regards to her primary or a summary dominant reasoning- it need not be the entirety of an excess reason.) Time's run out. Peace.

Petruchio -> RE: Teenish Masters (12/6/2006 11:35:24 AM)
Much mention as been made of the physical side, the soma versus the psyche, but while a teen boy is no doubt able to deliver a wallop (as I once did), it takes years of maturity and understanding to fully 'grok' what being a dom is all about. Someone mentioned teen mistresses. I met a so-called teen mistress at a club in Seattle. She was clearly out of her depth and she submitted to a dom couple for training. It's not a matter of muscles or sex, it's a matter of knowledge and maturity.

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