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SlaveSeeker1 -> Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 7:38:37 PM)

For everyone, what constitutes a 24/7 relationships differs, like everything else in BDSM. The definition of a 24/7 relationship is simply a relationship where the people involved live with one another on a daily basis. A BDSM 24/7 is easiest if explained as a vanilla live-in relationship, with the added knowledge of who is in charge and the priority of placing that person first and feeling content with the relationship arranged that way. In other words, a power exchange from one partner (at least) to another. Be that exchange a dominant/submissive one or that of a master/slave arrangement, or even just during sexual encounters. In my opinion, if a power exchange exists in the relationship (inside or out of the bedroom) it qualifies under the term BDSM.

24/7 is something that so many people look at as this big deal. A dream, of perfect harmony at all times, with play taking place frequently if not daily. Reality gets lost in the translation. Now, there is nothing wrong with sitting down and dreaming of the future. Allowing yourself to think of the wonderful experiences you and your partner will share. Or thinking of the happiness and physical satisfaction the relationship will bring to your partner and yourself. Doing this becomes a problem only when it over rides reality and the day to day things get lost.

When discussing taking a relationship into a 24/7 status, you hardly hear of people talking about money, moods, kids, and the million and one other mundane things which affect daily living. They don't want to burst their own bubbles of the idyllic home life. They focus on kink compatability and the limits or terms of the power exchange. Then, they move in with one another, thinking they've covered all the "important" subjects, only to find themsevles surrounded with reality and beset with problems. Often what happens is, they blame the problems created by this oversite on the BDSM instead of the lack of reality base in the negotiation of the relationship.

The sub will feel guilty, thinking they did not live up to the expectations of their dominant. Or they may resent the dominant for not upholding his/her end of the bargain. The same feelings can occur for the dominant. Further, the dominant may set more rules (or back off on others) thinking that will fix the problem. Either may feel that they were not truly cut out for the lifestyle, and choose to leave BDSM all together. This is all not true since the sad fact of the matter is, they just did not take into account reality. Not everyone is this way, but enough are that I feel this is an important issue to present to people.

Lets face it, everyone likes to think their lives will be perfect together. I too, love to think that, but life is not like that. No one is perfect, and no relationship is perfect. To expect perfection, is the quickest way to get yourself hurt. Keep in mind that it is the little things which will do in a relationship. Little things, may not seem important, but they are. Over time, little things add up and become major problems if not taken care of.

Relationships themselves are hard work.
A BDSM relationship is even harder. Specially at the beginning.  It takes effort to keep communication open and honest. It takes effort to do a scene, more effort than vanilla sex specially if the people involved prefer an intense or complicated level of play. (tying knots takes time, setting out and applying cuffs takes time..etc.) Often people forget to discuss their daily schedules and stress levels from work. Sure, "leave work at work" sounds great, but it doesn't always happen that way. A sub who stays at home all day, may forget the stressors that are affecting their dominant are from both the household and his/her work environment.




Tikkiee -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 7:40:19 PM)

I am confused [&:]




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 7:45:43 PM)

I am perfectly clear on what to expect out of my 24/7 situation once I have it. It is NOT going to be a vanilla relationship with a good sense of who is in charge.  You cant blanket everyones situation with your explination.  Granted, for those with little to no experience, having a better idea of what a 24/7 lifestyle would entail might be helpful. However, some of us have taken into consideration money (which I will be solely responsible for), moods (when Mommy needs alone time, you leave Mommy alone... and if Angel needs space he knows to ask for it) as well as a well defined pwoer exchange.
Thank you for the well thought out explnation, though I am defaintely an exception to it.  I am sure there are others out there as well who are too.

DV




Daddysredhead -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 7:45:46 PM)

Was this a question, a statement, rhetorical question...  ?     *sits perplexed*  [&:]




Tikkiee -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 7:48:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

Was this a question, a statement, rhetorical question...  ?     *sits perplexed*  [&:]

/shrug
 
I am just confused as to why he posted this here.




KatyLied -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 7:49:01 PM)

I think he's coming down from a bad 24/7 tpe relationship where they forgot to discuss his work.




Tikkiee -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 7:53:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I think he's coming down from a bad 24/7 tpe relationship where they forgot to discuss his work.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
Thank you for clearing that up
 
/nods at katy
 
[8D]




starshineowned -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 7:59:17 PM)

quote:

When discussing taking a relationship into a 24/7 status, you hardly hear of people talking about money, moods, kids, and the million and one other mundane things which affect daily living. They don't want to burst their own bubbles of the idyllic home life. They focus on kink compatability and the limits or terms of the power exchange. Then, they move in with one another, thinking they've covered all the "important" subjects, only to find themsevles surrounded with reality and beset with problems. Often what happens is, they blame the problems created by this oversite on the BDSM instead of the lack of reality base in the negotiation of the relationship.


Greetings..~smiles~

While sort of agree's..does not agree enough to believe this is a real issue in causes of failures. Most people have lived that "mundane" life, and are well equipt to understand how it works, and that it's not just going to magically go away. The need to go beyond this is higher priority because it's whats being sought to begin with. Thinks it's when people do loose focus and allow the mundane to over shadow and use it for excuses. After all it's a constant easy fall back. Think loosing sight of the prioritys that brought you together (the beyond vanilla world), and lack of communication are on top.

There is just sooooooooo much that can be done (little things) and sooooo much that can be said (words/tone) that will take a seemingly lost connection and put it back in its place without requiring a whole evening set aside to keep things in their right perspective.

Well Wishes

starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin





Daddysredhead -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:00:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I think he's coming down from a bad 24/7 tpe relationship where they forgot to discuss his work.


"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*




Tikkiee -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:02:17 PM)

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"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*

/giggles uncontrollably
 
umm you forgot to hand him the paddle/flogger/whip




BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:04:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I think he's coming down from a bad 24/7 tpe relationship where they forgot to discuss his work.


"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*


Oh my, I just snarfled my lil' cup of Nyquil.  Does it still work if you suck it up your nose?  Bleck! [image]http://www.collarchat.com/image/s8.gif[/image] 
LOL!  [:D]




KatyLied -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:07:07 PM)

quote:

"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*


That's more like it.  Ask about work, then get down to business!   [8D]




Daddysredhead -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:08:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tikkiee

quote:

"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*

/giggles uncontrollably
 
umm you forgot to hand him the paddle/flogger/whip


LOL....  goodness, will the Dom NEVER think of these things Himself?  No wonder she's grown all impatient and seemingly uncaring...  (I cook, I clean, I keep the toys all orderly, next I'll be beating my own ass!  Sheesh...  I've heard of being a service sub, but this is hard core!) 

*I hear the self-service here is quite nice...*  [:D]

*giggles, snorts*  [:D]




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:10:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead


"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*

See, this is why 24/7 didnt work... CLEAR case of topping from the bottom...




Daddysredhead -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:11:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead


"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*

See, this is why 24/7 didnt work... CLEAR case of topping from the bottom...


LOL...  yes, but whose bottom?   [;)]




AquaticSub -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:13:12 PM)

Honestly, your constant color and size changes made it so I had trouble reading anything else but the highlighted and colored text. I'm sure you had a point in there somewhere....
I'm going to assume you were ranting about TPEs and how people don't take them seriously. Dude, people don't take vanilla marriages seriously. What makes you think BDSM TPEs are going to be different? People are people.

Edited because I can't type.




Daddysredhead -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:13:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I think he's coming down from a bad 24/7 tpe relationship where they forgot to discuss his work.


"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*


Oh my, I just snarfled my lil' cup of Nyquil.  Does it still work if you suck it up your nose?  Bleck! [:'(] 
LOL!  [:D]



*ooh!  a medical scene...  playing doctor...*  [8D]

*say Ahhh...*  [:D]




Daddysredhead -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:16:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

"Hi, honey...  how was your day?  Yeah, yeah... that's nice, really.  Now tie me up and beat my ass...  oh, yeah, um...  please?"   *taps foot impatiently*


That's more like it.  Ask about work, then get down to business!   [8D]



*monkey business*   [8D]




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:18:03 PM)

Wow Red, you are in a MOOD tonight aintcha

Seriously, what point were you attempting t make OP?  I dont think any of us got much from your rant, aside from that you sem to have had a REALLY nasty 24/7 experience gone wrong and you feel it necessary to enlighten us on what you believe the underlying cause was.  Or at least thats what *I* got out of it.




Daddysredhead -> RE: Why are people confused about 24/7 TPE??? (12/5/2006 8:22:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

Wow Red, you are in a MOOD tonight aintcha



*giggles wildly*  [8D] 

DV, I was just wondering the same thing...  I think it's because I didn't get my "Sunday time" with Daddy Bear last weekend because I had UM's and their friends all weekend long.  *sigh*  I'm hoping to break bad this weekend...  [:D]




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