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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 7:33:16 PM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		You don't know it but I am harboring a list of resentments that I plan to present you with at a future date when you are most vulnerable.

I'm really a crazy person deep down inside...

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 7:41:21 PM   
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You don't know it but I am harboring a list of resentments that I plan to present you with at a future date when you are most vulnerable.

I'm really a crazy person deep down inside...

Bring it on biatch.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 7:44:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
You don't know it but I am harboring a list of resentments that I plan to present you with at a future date when you are most vulnerable.

I'm really a crazy person deep down inside...

Bring it on biatch.

LMAO!!

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 7:57:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		99% of the time I do not tell people to leave a relationship on a message board, I cannot remember off hand doing so. I may have, but it is usually not something I tell people they should or should not do. I have recommended they think about certain things, especially if they are just seeing someone and not living with them. There are degrees to commitment, and commitment is something I take too seriously to casually recommend people leave a marriage or a relationship they have invested a serious amount of time in... it is just not my place.

But often i have given advice based on too little information and I am judgmental at times, so I am not one to throw stones.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 7:57:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I'm really a crazy person deep down inside...


This is what I'm counting on! See ya Saturday, chicky.

muhahaha

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 8:07:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mistoferin, i personally do not think those 'answers' are ever wrong.  It is up to the person on the other side to decide if it is 'right' to run, to decide they are posers, fakes or wannabes... however, it might just open up the other persons eyes, that yes they are posers, fake and players, and it might make them stop and think.  Often times someone on the outside can see more clearly (yes even online). 

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 8:17:45 PM   
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This is what I'm counting on! See ya Saturday, chicky.

muhahaha

Celeste

Ooooooooooweeeeee can't wait! 

Yep, I'm gonna dance like a banana.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 8:20:30 PM   
juliaoceania


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Mistoferin, i personally do not think those 'answers' are ever wrong.  It is up to the person on the other side to decide if it is 'right' to run, to decide they are posers, fakes or wannabes... however, it might just open up the other persons eyes, that yes they are posers, fake and players, and it might make them stop and think.  Often times someone on the outside can see more clearly (yes even online). 


You make a valid point, lets say that a woman posts on here that she found out that her husband is a closeted bisexual man that is having indiscriminate sex with men he does not know and putting her at risk for an HIV infection... in fact this is one of the chief ways women have been known to get the HIV virus. Do we tell her that and recommend that she seriously think about protecting her health by not having sex with/leaving this person?  That is why I try not to speak in absolutes (or type in them...smiles). I can always think of some instance I would do the opposite of what I normally do.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 9:03:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am sorry, julia, i do not completely understand your question.  However, there are no absolutes (imo).  i can see certain things with my minds eye, if what i see is a fake or wannabe (from my perspective), chances are my opinion is based upon what is said or what i see, it's the only knowledge i have.  For instance, if i see a slave/submissive is totally devoted to 'one' they call (for lack of a better word) Sir... and they post it loudly and proudly, yet their "Sir" has a profile that still 'appears' to be seeking, it causes me concern... yes, i would probably call that person a fake, poser and wannabe.  (This is my opinion only).  :)

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 10:12:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wonder how many that description would encompass?... big smiles

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 10:35:08 PM   
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< Message edited by RiotGirl -- 12/8/2006 10:36:50 PM >

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 10:47:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Many times their word is not worth much.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 10:49:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		i do not wonder that (on a personal level)... if someone is not as dedicated to me as i to him, there is zero to wonder about.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 11:04:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		aye angelic and its a sad thing when one comes to realise that.  I do mean it in a general sense, especially with forums.  No one opionon is gold, which is why its always wise to get many.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 11:21:57 PM   
angelic


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Status: offline 		Yet, still so many want to parade their dysfunctional relationships.  (Ok i am in a mood)... So very tired of all the garbage and hurt and pain that i see in so many of these threads.  When did love and caring become a thing to abuse and take for granted?  When did the definition of love or even caring become 'he beats me because someone else pissed hin off?  When did it become  "you change" because i say so?  Doesn't there have to be a stopping point?  i do not know the answers to these questions, except how they relate to me...

Being Dom/Master (imo) means that i can trust you.  If you want to play around, do it elsewhere.. you want to lie... lie to someone else.. you want me to do something, you better be able to do the same thing you ask of me.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 11:45:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: angelic

Yet, still so many want to parade their dysfunctional relationships.  (Ok i am in a mood)... So very tired of all the garbage and hurt and pain that i see in so many of these threads.  When did love and caring become a thing to abuse and take for granted?  When did the definition of love or even caring become 'he beats me because someone else pissed hin off?  When did it become  "you change" because i say so?  Doesn't there have to be a stopping point?  i do not know the answers to these questions, except how they relate to me...

Being Dom/Master (imo) means that i can trust you.  If you want to play around, do it elsewhere.. you want to lie... lie to someone else.. you want me to do something, you better be able to do the same thing you ask of me.

You say "except how they relate to me" after you say "so many want to parade their dysfunctional relationships" so are you really taking your vision of what is dysfunctional and applying it across the board?  Is there a committee or consensus that decides what constitutes love and caring?  Do you decide it for everyone else?  How many posts have you read in which the one thing most of us seem to agree on is that every relationship is different, and everyones needs are different.  When did your "stopping point" become the way it ought to be for everyone else?  Is this your version of "one true way'ism?"  Your needs are your needs.  But they are not everyone else's. Why must those who have said a million times they are content in their relationships continue to be questioned by those who don't understand their way of doing things?  It is one thing to ask questions for the sake of understanding, but those who claim to be worried and concerned are not asking those questions.  They seem to be challenging others, as though trying to prove a point of their own righteousness.  That doesn't demonstrate much compassion in my opinion. You're tired of the hurt and pain, you said, yet what of those who are initiating their pain on others, by demeaning the way someone else lives?

Just wondering.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/8/2006 11:56:40 PM   
angelic


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Status: offline 		Owned.. without (seriously) reading your entire post in response to me.... in every single step i take in these forums i am very careful to make sure i say it is my opinion... do i think if some jerk cuts off my Master and he then decides to come home and be a horror to me, you bet i think that's dysfunctional..  do i think that if a Master tells me he is looking to give me away or sell me because his health is not good, do i think he is looking out for himself and using his health, etc. as an excuse... you bet.  Everything i say or believe is based on my own personal experience..,. is it your experience? Who knows, maybe not.  However, if someone comes on this board and spews what i call 'stepford' responses... i.e.   their Master is perfect in every way is pure bullshit and i  call bullshit when i see... bullshit.  For the first time in my life.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/9/2006 12:27:34 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		So you're defining what bullshit is for other people, in your opinion of course. 

I don't see a lot of posts where submissives state perfection in their Masters. Maybe we're reading different posts. 

I didn't expect you to read my entire post.  It wasn't solely for you anyway; I just used your post as an example of the kind of thinking I tend to question.

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/9/2006 12:47:54 AM   
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Owned.. without (seriously) reading your entire post in response to me....



Fascinating, so you are saying you can intelligently respond to a person's post without actually reading it?

Sinergy

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RE: Mistakes, Screw-ups and the Sky is Falling! - 12/9/2006 2:35:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		    erin, I too have seen the doomsday advise you speak of, but I have to wonder if that isn't what they are asking for sometimes. You quite often see a post where they explain a long list of negative "indicators" and mention little of what is going right. Then, they throw out the "what do I do" question. Maybe I am trying to be over perceptive, but I can't help thinking they have already made up their mind what they are going to do and only came to the forum boards for validation.
    Plus, there is a distinct advantage for them to do this, if they are really stepping out of their current relationship. I can't help thinking their are many vultures on here that will jump at the opportunity to offer greener grass on the other side. Perfect situation..."yes, run, the sky is falling...oh and by the way, come over here, I have a concrete roof". Not that anyone would take advantage of a situation (rolls eyes).
    If that isn't the case and they want serious advice, I would certainly hope they have some outside of the relationship comrades (friends) they could turn to, for more one on one opinions. Somehow I don't think general consensus is a viable way to decide if your relationship is worth saving or not, when so many of the posters may, or may not, be in an ideal situation themselves.
   Just my 2 cents.

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