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Aileen68 -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:23:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Powerman40 I got crabs once when I was a teen. The cutest lil bank teller you ever seen took me home with her. Several times, seems I was not the only one she took home often. Dam them crabs. they are nasty lil critters... course, so was she. S Shouldn't your name be PowerCrabman40?

LadyEllen -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:27:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: Powerman40 I got crabs once when I was a teen. The cutest lil bank teller you ever seen took me home with her. Several times, seems I was not the only one she took home often. Dam them crabs. they are nasty lil critters... course, so was she. S Shouldn't your name be PowerCrabman40? That was a bit of a sideways swipe wasnt it? Put your claws away! E

Aileen68 -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:32:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen That was a bit of a sideways swipe wasnt it? Put your claws away! E I'm sorry. Just in one of those moods.

Powerman40 -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:34:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: Powerman40 I got crabs once when I was a teen. The cutest lil bank teller you ever seen took me home with her. Several times, seems I was not the only one she took home often. Dam them crabs. they are nasty lil critters... course, so was she. S Shouldn't your name be PowerCrabman40? Ouch! good thing I am a Cancer.

Aileen68 -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:40:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Powerman40 Ouch! Those little crabbies still pinching? They do have medicine to treat them you know.

MstrDouglas -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:42:08 PM)
This is from a Google search, from the www.herpes.com site. "Herpes Simplex-2 virus (HSV-2), one of several strains of the Herpes Simplex Virus responsible for chickenpox, shingles, mononucleosis, and oral herpes (fever blisters or cold sores, HSV-1)", these are in addition to the genital herpes out breaks it causes, also straight from their site it is "one in five"...not one in four as you quoted. Maybe that is why more people dont list it, too many other things are "related" to the HSV. I think from reading that site that is why the ratio is so high, too many other things being "lumped in" to the same catagory, because the basic virus is simular. I dont think most people know what is all included in the "family" of HSV.

topcat -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:43:28 PM)
M. HSV- I have HSVII, and I freely admit it- and in almost twenty years, I can count on one hand the people it's been an issue for. I usually don't make a point of bringing it up until it seems as though I might be sleeping with someone, but it's certainly nothing that I 'don't admit'. It's not in my profile, but then there's a lot of things that aren't in there... Stay warm, Lawrence

MmakeMme -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:46:04 PM)
Are you flockin' kiddin' me? (Sorry - it was there. ~Some~body had to take it.)

Powerman40 -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 5:51:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 quote: ORIGINAL: Powerman40 Ouch! Those little crabbies still pinching? They do have medicine to treat them you know. Used the medicine. Thats nasty stuff too. but no, it was the Claws that caused me flinch. Although, If you wish to call me powercrabman40 I can live with that. S Hell, you can even claw me if you wish but I get to claw back . S

pixelslave -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 6:06:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Isnt herpes simplex virus what produces cold sores in the area of the mouth, and happens to be the same virus that appears "down there" as an STD? If products like Zovirax work on cold sores around the mouth, isnt there the same effect "down there"? I've never ever heard of anyone announcing to a date that they have cold sores every now and then, or indeed anyone being put that much off someone they really like, because they have cold sores. I havent seen anyone with cold sores around either, in years - I take it that with the high infection rate, people are using Zovirax and its competitors to prevent their appearance. If it can be controlled, and the appearance of the genital variety of cold sores prevented, then is it really that big a deal? I also heard that its only infectious from the cold sores themselves, so if its managed so that the sores dont appear, then is there a problem? I'm just talking what I've heard here, so if anyone can comment on the above then please do to correct my ignorance; just dont flame me over it though! If what I wrote is true, then I wonder whether DomwithHSV is not using the whole issue as an excuse? That sounds a lot more harsh than I want it to sound, but I'm too tired to put it better sorry! Its just that it reminds me of the crossdresser's lament that its purely because they like to dress that no one loves them. E Lady Ellen, I guess its education time. [:D] There's HSV I and HSV II. HSV I, is the kind you're referring to as the strain that causes cold sores. When one has an active cold sore, guess what? Let them perform oral sex on you, and it becomes a form of herpes that now appears on your genitals and not around your mouth! Fun huh? [X(] Hope you had a great time! HSV II is what is thought of as the traditional form of Genital Herpes and is only transfered (to my knowledge) by contact with the genitals, either oral to genital, genital to genital, or anal to genital (not certain on the first or the last, but I believe that's all correct), and only occurs when the person who is infected has an active sore. Equally important to all of this, is that condoms don't provide protection against herpes when the sores are external on a woman or a man where they allow skin to skin contact in a location in the genital area where a condom doesn't provide protection against contact. [sm=m23.gif] So, you might want to be aware that practicing "safe sex" isn't entirely safe when it comes to protecting yourself against herpes, either HSV 1 or HSV II. Yes there are medications that a person can take for HSV. To my knowledge, most of them are taken to shorten the length of an outbreak, and not to prevent one entirely. I've heard mention of a new one (not Zovirax if falls into the category of the type that shortens an outbreak) that is designed to prevent outbreaks entirely, although I do not recall the name as it wasn't of importance to me when I recently read about it. [:o] In the last 5 to 10 years they've greatly improved the accuracy of testing here in the states for exposure to HSV. I've heard the statistics now are something more like 60% of the adult population have been exposed to it (either that or will be over the course of their life time, I don't remember which), although many may never show symptions of having it, they'll test positive for the virus just the same. Its not the most pleasant statistic, and the OP certainly has his point in that regard. I've known many women who have tested positive without ever showing the slightest of symptoms. I know of others, who tell me they can tell when its coming on and immediately start their meds to shorten their outbreak and take precautions with their partners. So its not nearly the same danger as HIV or other STD's. [sm=rolleyes.gif] Here's a link that some might find helpful with lots more facts and related information on HSV from the CDC (Center for Disease Control) that was given to me by a friend with HSV: http://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/STDfact-Herpes.htm Hope this helps further enlighten anyone who reads this thread. [8\|] - pixel

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 6:18:40 PM)
Probably most would bring it up later, not broadcast it on a profile. If I had an STD I would probabaly be upfront an honest about it but not put it on a profile. I applaud you for being so honest about it but you could see why some may not want to flaunt it.

Caitriona -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 6:20:30 PM)
I happen to be a submissive female who has HSV II. I contracted it early in my relationship with my Dominant, who has never shown any symptoms of HSV II - he's one of the "silent carriers." I have had one sexual partner since contracting the disease and he knew about it before we became sexually active. It didn't bother him a bit. I do not go around introducting myself with, "Hi, I'm Cait and I have HSV II." It's really not anyone's business unless I decide to sleep with them, which at that point it will be discussed.

FelinePersuasion -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 7:36:27 PM)
I have, and she looked really ugly with two giant sores right on her lip, they looked very painfull and gross. She was the cashier and food handler at Target, she took your order your money and handed you food. so she was very prominant. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen havent seen anyone with cold sores around either, in years

CalliopePurple -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 9:06:16 PM)
I get cold sores when I'm very stressed or my immune system is down due to being sick or eating really really terrible. Someone having HSV-II wouldn't be a deal breaker, personally. It just means I'd have to be more careful whenever I was with the person. And one of my sister's friends got HSV-II from a used sex toy before losing his virginity. He had a very awkward time explaining that to the first person he was sexual with.

DomwithHSV -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/9/2006 9:59:34 PM)
Interesting information here, thanks for all the feedback. I guess it comes down to a few schools of thought: The first school is probably the biggest: those completely misinformed about herpes (genital). The facts are this: I doesn't matter if you take the medicine or do not have an outbreak, you can give someone herpes AT ANY TIME whether you are currently active or not, whether you are medicated or not, or whether you know you are afflicted or not. Anyone can have it, and everyone can have it. Symptoms mean NOTHING. I have an outbreak once a year, yet can give it away at anytime NO MATTER if safe sex is practiced or not. School two: are the people who are disgusted, freaked out, or befuddled by my decision to put HSV in my name. I am not HSV. It is only something I have. I am a complex (yet sometimes simple) man, with many passions, loves, interests, etc., which have no bearing on this virus I have. Yet most who even hear mention of "herpes" will only consider me "contagious." It is the way of the world. School three: are those are those who try to begin to understand the dilemma those like me face in love, lust, and passion. the responses to this post are varied. Some suggested to seek elsewhere. Some thought putting HSV in my name was "freaky." Some said they were not afraid. Some even admitted having it themselves. Some used it to talk about crabs and cleanliness. I guess I just wished to know in this self-proclaimed enlightened site if things might be different than in the vanilla world. I now realize there is little difference here than elsewhere. There are the ignorant, the foolish, the crass, the disinterested, the semi-informed, the fully informed, and yes, the truly compassionate. It is just a slice of life here; a random drawing of people with a great difference than the vanilla world in their kink, but much the same in other ways. It's good to be here. Thank you for your thoughts.

MisPandora -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/10/2006 12:01:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomwithHSV I'm new here and have been glancing at the submissive women in my area. Though one out of 4-5 people have HSV (and probably more among the sexually liberated or active), this people site seem to defy all odds. Not one person here has HSV! Or... Not one person here is admitting it. I wonder which it is and why it is. Guesses anyone? It's not exactly AIDS now, is it? Not since the PozM4M chat rooms on AOL and profiles on worldleathermen.com have I seen folks actively advertising their infection status. Generally, I thought that was something you talked about in a personal conversation with someone. Didn't they get rid of scarlet letters a long time ago?

abytchgoddess4u -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/10/2006 12:13:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomwithHSV The facts are this: I doesn't matter if you take the medicine or do not have an outbreak, you can give someone herpes AT ANY TIME whether you are currently active or not, whether you are medicated or not, or whether you know you are afflicted or not. Anyone can have it, and everyone can have it. Symptoms mean NOTHING. I have an outbreak once a year, yet can give it away at anytime NO MATTER if safe sex is practiced or not. I'm sorry, but that is NOT true. One CAN pass on HSV without an outbreak, but ONLY if one is shedding asymptomatically. People with HSV shed asymptomatically on average ONE day per year. Those of us who have very strong prodromal symptoms{lucky me[&:]}, have been shown in studies to be LESS likely to shed asymptomatically than those without...hence, we are less likely to pass it along without an outbreak. The study that Valtrex uses to advertise is here... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1309413&dopt=Abstract ...and it doesn't say anything close to what the ad implies.

Aileen68 -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/10/2006 12:52:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomwithHSV Interesting information here, thanks for all the feedback. I guess it comes down to a few schools of thought: The first school is probably the biggest: those completely misinformed about herpes (genital). The facts are this: I doesn't matter if you take the medicine or do not have an outbreak, you can give someone herpes AT ANY TIME whether you are currently active or not, whether you are medicated or not, or whether you know you are afflicted or not. Anyone can have it, and everyone can have it. Symptoms mean NOTHING. I have an outbreak once a year, yet can give it away at anytime NO MATTER if safe sex is practiced or not. School two: are the people who are disgusted, freaked out, or befuddled by my decision to put HSV in my name. I am not HSV. It is only something I have. I am a complex (yet sometimes simple) man, with many passions, loves, interests, etc., which have no bearing on this virus I have. Yet most who even hear mention of "herpes" will only consider me "contagious." It is the way of the world. School three: are those are those who try to begin to understand the dilemma those like me face in love, lust, and passion. the responses to this post are varied. Some suggested to seek elsewhere. Some thought putting HSV in my name was "freaky." Some said they were not afraid. Some even admitted having it themselves. Some used it to talk about crabs and cleanliness. I guess I just wished to know in this self-proclaimed enlightened site if things might be different than in the vanilla world. I now realize there is little difference here than elsewhere. There are the ignorant, the foolish, the crass, the disinterested, the semi-informed, the fully informed, and yes, the truly compassionate. It is just a slice of life here; a random drawing of people with a great difference than the vanilla world in their kink, but much the same in other ways. It's good to be here. Thank you for your thoughts. You seemed to have forgotten the fourth school...those who feel that it isn't the right thing for THEM to put personal medical info in their profile. They choose to divulge that info to people that they may have intimate relations with and not the entire Collarme population. But you've already decided that unless everyone makes the same decisions that you have with your profile, then they are somehow wrong and you are wholesome and much more righteous. I know how to read between the lines of your sweetly worded posts...especially where I've highlighted above. You may have listed your status prominently within your profile, but that doesn't make you any less of a dick than anyone else, myself included. *I debated whether or not to use a different word than 'dick', but decided to keep it in since I lumped myself in that group also. You have a chip on your shoulder about a lack of a partner and have found a convenient excuse. edited for spelling...damn sticky e on my keyboard.

cjenny -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/10/2006 5:19:31 AM)
well i feel kind of lost. not on herpes but on my profile which begins with my disabilities. should i NOT post that? it seems like a lie, to not post it. i've times where i am in bed for days upon days and not in bed for fun lol. i have memory issues. i run fevers. i am on an immense amount of medication. heavy sigh i thought i was doing the right thing by forewarning anyone who had interest in me. it affects my life every single day without respite and i guess i thought it was important that ppl know that. now i'm worried that people will think i posted that to garner some sort of reaction. it was so very hard for me to include that in my profile, i don't want my condition to be the first thing people know about me. yet if i am met in RL by people it can isn't always be very noticeble. so here i am drinking my coffee at 8am, wondering if i made an error. wondering if people here are assuming i posted my profile in a way to get specific reactions or attention. worrying. wondering if i should pull it. yet it is the reason i cannot travel. it is the reason i am so slowly dipping my toes into RL socialization with the BDSM community. i wish i had a manual, so that i wouldn't do things in the wrong way. i wish i knew if i had made a mistake, should pull my profile or knew it was okay as is. it isnt like saying, hi im jenny & i wear glasses.

Aileen68 -> RE: Mmmm...no one like me I see (i.e. HSV) (12/10/2006 5:55:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cjenny well i feel kind of lost. not on herpes but on my profile which begins with my disabilities. should i NOT post that? it seems like a lie, to not post it. i've times where i am in bed for days upon days and not in bed for fun lol. i have memory issues. i run fevers. i am on an immense amount of medication. heavy sigh i thought i was doing the right thing by forewarning anyone who had interest in me. it affects my life every single day without respite and i guess i thought it was important that ppl know that. now i'm worried that people will think i posted that to garner some sort of reaction. it was so very hard for me to include that in my profile, i don't want my condition to be the first thing people know about me. yet if i am met in RL by people it can isn't always be very noticeble. so here i am drinking my coffee at 8am, wondering if i made an error. wondering if people here are assuming i posted my profile in a way to get specific reactions or attention. worrying. wondering if i should pull it. yet it is the reason i cannot travel. it is the reason i am so slowly dipping my toes into RL socialization with the BDSM community. i wish i had a manual, so that i wouldn't do things in the wrong way. i wish i knew if i had made a mistake, should pull my profile or knew it was okay as is. it isnt like saying, hi im jenny & i wear glasses. My point was that anyone can put anything they wish in their profile and there is no right or wrong way or thing to say. But the OP comes on in and makes comments alluding to how he feels everyone is being deceiptful because they don't have what he feels is vital to a profile. Go back and read his words carefully. I read them all as being very condescending and judgemental. In fact here it is... quote: I'm new here and have been glancing at the submissive women in my area. Though one out of 4-5 people have HSV (and probably more among the sexually liberated or active), this people site seem to defy all odds. Not one person here has HSV! Or... Not one person here is admitting it. I wonder which it is and why it is. Guesses anyone? It's not exactly AIDS now, is it? You most certainly didn't have this attitude.

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