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Uncircumcised sub - 12/13/2006 5:17:31 AM   
aviinterra


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Good morning!
Recently I have started to play with a sub that is not circumcised. I do not mind this at all, and in fact, I think I find a penis that is not circumcised quite attractive. I can see a lot of potential for inflicting cruelty in this special area  and have plenty of ideas floating in my mind! :: oh the thoughts that do roam around my brain even at 8 in the morning:: Perhaps if anyone here is experienced in this topic they could share their experience and knowledge regarding safety on this, and what unique precautions to take or know of- I would be very grateful. Ah, what the he*l, while we are at it, if somebody has a good story, please do share it!
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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/13/2006 10:13:23 AM   
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Just a few ideas:
- You put a cork in the center on his dick and pull the skin upwards round the cork. use 8 needles to keep it in place.
- You can pierce the bit of skin with two or 4 holes, and put a lock through it.

Have fun !

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/13/2006 7:50:02 PM   
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ouch.. you're making me cringe

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/14/2006 5:21:45 AM   
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Its nice to hear from someone that does like an uncircumsized penis.  i too am uncut.  It seems to me that most Women don't care, or rather, prefer the look of a cut penis.  i hope that i too will find someone soon to enjoy my extra skin.

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/14/2006 5:33:08 AM   
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i think uncircumcised looks great the only thing i can think of to tell you to do is put too pegs or clips on the end of it when its soft and leave them tied up up wrapped up and wait and see how long it takes for them to get hard and have them asking you to please please take them off

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/14/2006 5:53:58 AM   
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Did you all see the latest studying of circumcision and AIDS? Saw it in the paper today (however good that is) and it says that for vaginal intercourse, having a foreskin seems to greatly increase the risk of AIDS transmission. AIDS groups are now going to start urging larger numbers of adult men (in Africa where the studies were conducted) to get circumcised BUT they will emphasis this is not 100% protection, condoms are still needed and it does not seem to affect anal transmission and certainly not blood transmission.

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/14/2006 10:43:33 AM   
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This kind of safety may be of low concern to those slaves who are kept chaste as a matter of principle!

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/15/2006 9:25:38 AM   
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Thank you everyone! Having a sub with the penis in a natural state has been great- I was weary at first, but now I find that it is much more pleasurable and there are soooo many options- and he is so sensitive too!!!! I have seen the study regarding AIDS, but I do not think massive circumcision of every male would be the answer to this horrible disease- education and modification of the behaviors that lead to transmission would work wonders. Some of the men in Africa still refuse to use a condom and there are very high numbers of rape. But it is good to know, and if it saves a life, the money spent on the study has been more than worth it.

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/16/2006 2:39:30 AM   
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My hubby is uncut.  His head is super sensitive, too much attention to it with the skin pulled back is nearly unbearable to him.  Uncircumcized cocks are more....fragrant....than circumsized.  After nearly 27 years, I think a cut cock would seem "foreign" to Me.

Care to share some of those ideas floating around in your head?

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/16/2006 3:08:28 AM   
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At the risk of hijacking this thread, and I speak to those who conducted this study, not to anyone specifically who posted:
I have not seen this study, however, as foreskin is not a means of transmitting the AIDS virus-the seminal fluid IS--campaigning to lop off the aforementioned body part seems rather foolish.  They also do "female circumscision" in Africa as well--to help prevent a lot of things such as infidelity and such.  Same ignorant, repugnant, useless tactic.    I mean, think about it...are you going to  have sex with someone who has AIDS simply because they are circumsized?  Education for prevention, condoms etc is what is needed, not the lopping off of body parts.

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/16/2006 7:41:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressMaamNH

At the risk of hijacking this thread, and I speak to those who conducted this study, not to anyone specifically who posted:
I have not seen this study, however, as foreskin is not a means of transmitting the AIDS virus-the seminal fluid IS--campaigning to lop off the aforementioned body part seems rather foolish. They also do "female circumscision" in Africa as well--to help prevent a lot of things such as infidelity and such. Same ignorant, repugnant, useless tactic. I mean, think about it...are you going to have sex with someone who has AIDS simply because they are circumsized? Education for prevention, condoms etc is what is needed, not the lopping off of body parts.

MMNH



The study says that the foreskin is thinner but does have blood vessels running through it allowing the virus to have easier access. The study doesn't say circumsion prevents AIDS but it did run the risk of it by 50%.

Condoms or just not having sex is far better of course but those messages are just not working at all in most areas of Africa where AIDS hits the hardest. These can be areas where a man infected with AIDS will literally rape young girls with the idea that somehow that will cure him -- no cure and she usually gets the virus plus the trauma of the rape.

The people in these areas have to decide what to do now but the researchers stopped the survey because they felt it was unethical to continue with a control group and allow those men and their partners to run the higher risk of transmission -- telling them that circumsion seems to have an affect would be counter productive to the research and not telling them was basically not giving them information that could help them.

I think the researchers made the correct decision in this case.

The report in the paper and on NPR also said that this study was done to check an earlier study that reported much lower rates of AIDS transmission in the 1980s for circumsized men.

I think an adult man should have all the information he can so he can make a good decision for himself. That means not listening to me or anyone other than a doctor who has seen the full study and understands it.


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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/19/2006 2:15:49 PM   
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You are exactly right. I am a cut male. I was circumsized against my will, as most young male babies. My biggest regret is not offering myself to a Woman, who Herself would choose if She wants me circumsized or not.

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/20/2006 11:46:20 AM   
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Being uncircumsized has been great for me-more for the Mistress to play with. I suggested we use a knitting circle and put fishhooks through the foreskin and then the foreskin can be s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d out to the limits. A great sensation and look and I do have photos of it if interested. As for hygiene, If one keeps himself very clean there is not a problem and the subbie is very sensitive there so when you put tiger balm or stronger around the corona and pull the foreskin up it is very warm.

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 12/20/2006 8:48:31 PM   
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IMO- Circumcision is not at all common in Africa, not unlike healthcare in general. The penis itself has many a vein near the skin. I think that a study citing the need for mass circumcision of the men of Africa is absurd. It seems that educating the people on sexually transmitted diseases, giving these people condoms and some small form of healthcare would be better than simply roaming Africa spreading propoganda that sings the praises of a westernised penis.
A quote from this study:
 
"Circumcision was once very common in Botswana," said Daniel Halperin, PhD. But missionaries discredited the practice, he said, and now few men in Botswana are circumcised -- and more than 30% of the adult population in that country has AIDS or is infected with HIV." 

It is not always the case that two things link. Simply looking at the rate of infection and the rate of curcucision and saying that one causes the other is not scientific, it is ignorant. Beyond that, these are "scentific" studies performed by sociologists. When I want a sociologist giving me my pap smear, belive you me, I will let everyone know. Somehow I doubt that will ever happen. The procedure is not being backed by the CDC and the medical research supports the claim that this is not a question of circumcision, but of cultural practice. There is no medical reason to worry that being uncut will tranmit the diease any more than being cut will. Beyond that, it would be an all inclusive net. Anal sex would be no safer, and would be on the warning list as well.
Thank you for the chance to learn something new today.

Back to the topic- The skin is great for clothespins, so long as you are careful not to rupture the vessels underneath. For that, use the smoother wooden pins instead of the plastic ones, which are no more painful, but are more likely to do bruising and longer term damage. As for needle play, plase be safe and sane with this- watch for large veins, and keep everything clean.
Piercing of any sort has always been a hard limit of mine, so many ways to go wrong and get infected. Safe playing, have fun!

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 1/14/2008 7:42:58 PM   
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i am a uncut boy i find more mature Women do not mind uncut boys, but younger Women seem to be think it is very gross to see.

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 1/14/2008 8:15:32 PM   
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Well, I thought this might be time to share a story that will cause all of you to question my intelligence....

*sighs and takes a deep breath*

I am uncircumsized.  Three months ago, this fact was news to me.  It was the next day, after my Owner and I had sex for the first time.  Now, it's important to remember that she is the first and only woman I've been with.  After we get out of the shower, she starts drying off her hair and then she looks up at me and says with a smile, "You know, you're a first for me too."

"Oh, what's that?"

"You're the first man I've been with who's not been circumsized."

"...what do you mean I'm not circumsized?"

Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen.  I had no idea.  I just assumed that I was circumsized because I thought just about everybody in this day and age was.  I was entirely unaware of what one a circumsized one looked like.  I guess somebody slept through that day of health class.  It was such a shock for me. >_<

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 1/14/2008 9:38:57 PM   
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Cirmcized or uncircumcized; in my experience, women care much less about a penis than the man it is attached to.  

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 1/14/2008 10:55:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: darchChylde

Cirmcized or uncircumcized; in my experience, women care much less about a penis than the man it is attached to.  


That is correct! You like the one you're with!

Guys that have an overinflated sense of self worth about their cocks are more of a turn off than a turn on. It makes me think he's more focused on himself than on me!

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 1/14/2008 11:30:11 PM   
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Shawn, you are just too damn adorable!  I still think you're a very intelligent, perceptive person.  So ya missed one day in health class!  Big deal.  Now you know.  DV, you really found yourself a gem!

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RE: Uncircumcised sub - 1/15/2008 12:30:55 AM   
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As an uncircumcised male, I honestly pity those who are cut. Genital mutilation is genital mutilation regardless of the bits being mutilated. Cut men miss out on TONS of sensation. The feel of the skin gliding back and forth over the shaft is incredible. The glans is extremely sensitive, probably as much as the clitoris. Not to mention the fact that both masturbation and vaginal penetration require plenty of lube for circumcised men, and, often little or no lube for those with au naturel members.

Also, for the record:
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ORIGINAL: blmtrsne
Just a few ideas:
- You put a cork in the center on his dick and pull the skin upwards round the cork. use 8 needles to keep it in place.
- You can pierce the bit of skin with two or 4 holes, and put a lock through it.

is a terrible, probably dangerous idea and I can only hope it was meant in jest. If I'm wrong and someone has experience with this sort of thing, please feel free to correct me, but, speaking from personal experience, that skin is terribly fragile.

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