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What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 11:57:58 AM   
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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 12:21:59 PM   
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The real meaning of Christmas is a gift.

Ideal for anyone.

Just 49-99 from leading outlets nationwide

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 1:01:12 PM   
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Santa's coming to town

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 1:02:47 PM   
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They have a whole host of movies on that shit.............rent one of 'em......... on special thru the holidays............ 

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 1:03:33 PM   
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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 1:25:57 PM   
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C is for the Christ Child and the child in all of us.

H is for the Heart of God, in Whom we place our trust.

R is for our Redeemer, Who is finished with His chore.

I is for Isaiah, who had told it all before.

S is for the Shepherd lowly shepherds came to see.

T is for Three wise men, who were wise beyond degree.

M is for a Manger, a simple manger where He lay.

A is for bright Angels who were standing by that day.

S is for the Star that shone and still shines out today!

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 1:30:49 PM   
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Biblical?  Well we know is it not when Christ was born..thats pretty much common knowledge.
However, all we do know is it was spring sometime.

We know that hundreds of year's ago someone came up with the idea of Christmas because if was cold and dreary in the winter.  The bright colors etc brighten up the otherwise dull surroundings.

What is the meaning of Christmas from what standpoint?  It is the season where the retailers make a buttload of money at our expense. 

From a child's standpoint?  Time to be greedy. 

From my personal standpoint.  It is a time to reflect on better times.  To dream of the future and what it may hold. 
It is a time to just love and not expect anything in return.
A time for family.

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 2:17:23 PM   
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turky, chesnuts, food thats bad for you and tastes so good, smiling at the present your nan brought you, knowing you'll love it, meeting relatives you damn well forgot you had, sneaking around at night and knowing your kids won't appreciate you doing this, because it will all be put down to father christmas, and then realising that that means you ARE father christmas. Having warmth in the middle of winter, thinking that you should go to church, but if you do, it'll be because of the songs and mulled wine, being 10 or so days too early for the birth of christ, a few days too late for longnight, and right on time for egg-nog

If everyone loves christmas pudding so much, why do they only ever eat it at christmas?


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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 2:20:31 PM   
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its just another excuse for me to be grumpy, irritable and on a good note badly behaved.

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 2:27:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

its just another excuse for me to be grumpy, irritable and on a good note badly behaved.


You need to turn to God.

Oh, silly me, I forgot. You found him already!

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 2:57:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RubberWitch

If everyone loves christmas pudding so much, why do they only ever eat it at christmas?



What is Christmas Pudding?  Never heard of it before?

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 3:05:35 PM   
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Time to be with family, I agree with you there sub4hire

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/15/2006 3:07:46 PM   
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(description paraphrased from Wikipedia Christmas pudding is the dessert traditionally served on Christmas day in Britan and Ireland. It has its origins in England and is sometimes known as plum pudding or figgie pudding though this can also refer to other kinds of boiled pudding involving a lot of dried fruit.  Many households have their own recipe for Christmas pudding, often handed down the family.
Christmas pudding is a steamed pudding, heavy with dried fruit and nuts, and often made with suet.   It is very dark in appearance - effectively black - and moist with brandy and other alcohol.  Christmas pudding is traditionally decorated with a spray of holly, and it may be doused in brandy, flamed (or 'fired'), and brought to the table ceremonially - where it may be greeted with a round of applause. In some houses the lights are turned out as the pudding is brought in amid a halo of purple brandy flames (this is related to the Christmas tradition of snap-dragons). It can be eaten with hard sauce, brandy butter, rum butter, [[cream (food)|cream], lemon cream, or custard and is often sprinkled with caster sugar (the fall of the sugar on triangular slices resembling the fall of snow on a pitched roof, or snowy mountain tops).

Below is my favorite recipe for christmas pudding.  My favorite pudding is boiled.

first make the fruit mixture

Basic fruit mixture
Cooking time: More than 1 hour

Three-in-one mix
The mixture can be up to a week ahead.
Stir the ingredients occasionally.
Store in a cool dark place; the refrigerator is ideal.

INGREDIENTS
1kg (6 ½ cups) sultanas
375g (2¼ cups) currants
500g (3 cups) raisins, chopped
375g (2 ¼ cups) dates, chopped
375g (2 ¼ cups) dried prunes, chopped
250g (1 ½ cups) red glace cherries, quartered
125g (2/3 cup) mixed peel
2 medium (300g) apples, peeled, grated coarsely
250g jar (2/3 cup) fig jam
1 tablespoon finely grated lemon rind
¼ cup (60ml) lemon juice
2 cups (400g) firmly packed dark brown sugar
1 tablespoon mixed spice
1 &frac13; cups (330ml) Irish Whiskey
METHOD
Combine all of the ingredients in a large bowl and mix to combine thoroughly. Cover tightly with plastic wrap. Stand in a cool dark place overnight or up to a week.
Rich Irish Christmas pudding
Serving size: Serves 10 or more
Cooking time: More than 1 hour
This recipe makes one large pudding using either the steamed or boiled cooking methods.

INGREDIENTS 
¼ quantity of the above fruit mixture
250g (4 cups) butter, melted , cooled
3 eggs, beaten lightly
250g (4 cups) lightly packed stale (not dry) breadcrumbs
½ cup  plain flour (for steamed pudding)
¼ cup plain flour (for boiled pudding)


METHOD 
Place the fruit mixture in a large bowl, add the butter, eggs, breadcrumbs and sifted flour; mix thoroughly.

Steamed Pudding

1.Grease a 2-litre (eight-cup capacity) pudding steamer and line the base with a round of baking paper.
2. Spoon the mixture into the steamer, top with pleated baking paper and foil, secure with string or a lid.
3.Place the pudding in a large saucepan with enough boiling water to come halfway up the side of the steamer. Cover the saucepan with a tight-fitting lid and boil for 6 hours. Replenish with boiling water as needed to maintain the water level. Stand the pudding for 20 minutes before turning out.

Boiled Pudding
1.You will need a 60cm square piece of unbleached calico. If the cloth is new, soak it in cold water overnight. Next day boil the cloth for 20 minutes, rinse.
2. Have ready a large saucepan three-quarters full of rapidly boiling water, 2.5m of kitchen string and ¢ cup (75g) plain flour.
3.Drop the prepared pudding cloth in boiling water, boil one minute. Wearing rubber gloves, squeeze water from cloth. Spread the hot cloth on the bench, rub the plain flour into the centre of the cloth to cover a 40cm area, leaving the flour thicker in the centre where the "skin" will need to be thickest.
4. Place pudding mixture in centre of cloth, gather cloth evenly around the pudding. Pat into a round shape. Tie cloth tightly with string close to the mixture. Tie a loop in the string to make the pudding easy to handle. Pull ends tightly to make pudding as round as possible.
5. Lower the pudding into boiling water, cover with a tight-fitting lid, boil rapidly for six hours. Replenish with boiling water as needed to maintain the water level.
6. Place handle of a wooden spoon through the loop of string, lift pudding from water. Place pudding in a bowl or colander, cut string and peel back cloth a little. Invert onto a plate then slowly peel cloth back completely; cool. (It is important to remove the cloth while the pudding is hot, to prevent the skin sticking to the cloth. We prefer to remove the cloth for storage to prevent mould forming.)

To store puddings:
Wrap in plastic wrap or put in a freezer bag or airtight container, refrigerate up to three months or freeze for up to one year.

To reheat puddings:
Thaw frozen puddings for two days in the refrigerator. Remove the pudding from the refrigerator 12 hours before reheating.
Steamed: Remove the plastic wrap and return to the steamer. Steam for 2 hours following the cooking instructions.
Boiled: Remove the plastic wrap and tie a clean dry unfloured cloth on the pudding. Boil for two hours following the cooking instructions.

Microwave: Reheat four single serves at once. Cover with microwave-safe plastic wrap; microwave on HIGH (100%) for up to one minutes per serve. To reheat the whole pudding, cover with microwave-safe plastic wrap, microwave on MEDIUM (50%) for about 15 minutes or until hot.
 **if you have good luck with the recipe let me know - I have been making it for years but few people i know have been brave enough to try it.

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/16/2006 6:49:39 PM   
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I actually make plum/Christmas pudding, using my great-grandmother's recipe. I'm not sure folks really like it, but they eat it to be polite.

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/16/2006 6:51:16 PM   
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quote:

C is for the Christ Child and the child in all of us.


Lovely rhyme, Krissi! One of yours?

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/16/2006 6:55:34 PM   
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I’m guessing the capital CH in your question means something. I just love guessing games….. Is it Church Hunting?

Church Hunting: To look for a Church at Christmas with vast quantities of spare seats just like the rest of the year.


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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/16/2006 6:57:34 PM   
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Linus said it best:

And there were in the same county shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you : Ye shall find a babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

And that's what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown.

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/16/2006 7:34:29 PM   
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Thanks for the pudding definition.  Here in the midwest I doubt I could find all of the ingredients if I wanted to.
There is definately a shortage of anything fresh..and what you do find is marked up about 5 times the price that it should be.
Though most of those fruits look dried to me.
Still not an easy task to find.

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/16/2006 8:07:56 PM   
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I'm intrigued that the recipe uses butter. Mine calls for suet, which is almost impossible to find.

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RE: What is the real meaning of CHristmas? - 12/16/2006 8:24:25 PM   
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1.  Christmas Pudding is a sacred trust in this family.  Having admitted a true, dyed in the mutton WASP (like Colonial Dame WASP, and if you don't know what a Colonial Dame is, don't ask) to our multi-ethnic family, I discussed the pudding with HIM.  Now he's gone, but the tradition lives on.   And I am authorized to tell you people: 

a.  Suet, or other meat fat.  Butter is for pansies (and he would know, being one himself)
b.  Rum.  Not bourbon.  Not whiskey.  Rum.   Preferably Rum brought over on your Great-great-great-great-great grandfather's ships.  You know, the ones that went from Massachusetts to Barbados carrying molasses, to rum, to slaves?   Whiskey, he sniffed, when asked, is for "poor people....or the Irish".
c.  Steamed.  In little tins purchased from Williams-Sonoma (I questioned how this was done pre-Williams-Sonoma.  He looked at me blankly and said "pre Williams-Sonoma, we lived in caves.  Of course MY people lived in the bigger, better cave at the top of the hill."
d.  There is really only one reason for making this rather god awful thing (look....give a Frenchman dried seasonal fruits, some flour and some good alcohol, he goes out and kills a rabbit or a duck, flambe's it in the rum, dredges it in flour and serves it with the fruits en side.  Give an Englishman the same ingredients and he comes up with...pudding.)  That one reason is HARD SAUCE.  The pudding is purgatory, it is the food of the damned.  The HARD SAUCE (with rum, or brandy) is redemption, proof that there is a gentle, loving God, and that he probably learned to cook in Italy.

2.  We serve the pudding on Hanukkah.  If you have any sense of history, you'll smile.

3.  "Its a technicolor Christmas when you're Jewish, 'cause movie theaters never close!"

Chag Samayach,

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Hard Sauce
1/3 cup butter
1/3 teaspoon lemon extract
1 cup powdered sugar
2/3 teaspoon vanilla
2  teaspoons rum, brandy or whiskey, to taste

Cream the butter, add sugar gradually, and flavoring.




--from the original Fanny Farmer cookbook, c. 1865.  But her skimpy booze allotment has to be changed.

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