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mechbot972007 -> things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 1:29:41 PM)
Respectfully- many relationships are about power...who has it and who will submit to the one yelding it. Read the following then let me know what you may think about it.. Time to Be Men Again By Henry Makow Ph.D. March 9, 2003 "Modern men see women as 'castrating, vengeful, power-hungry and obsessed by men's sexual performance,'" a recent study by the French Edition of Elle Magazine concluded. The study based on four 12-man focus groups found that Frenchmen believe that women are out of control. They feel belittled by the constant overvaluation of women and dazed by demands to adopt feminine traits yet somehow remain virile. http://www.savethemales.ca/090303.html [Mod Note: image removed and paste truncated. The article can be read in it's entirety at the above URL]

Rover -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 1:40:09 PM)
To begin, I think it's illegal to copy and paste copyrighted material like that. Next time you might consider using a link to the article. As for the article itself, I think that anyone who allows political special interest groups to define them, or their relationships, is in for some serious trouble. Be yourself, not what you think others (particularly political advocacy groups) might like or expect you to be. And frankly, the entirety of the article (as read via the link) is more than a little paranoid. To say that it is out there on the fringe probably does a disservice to the fringe itself. John

slavejali -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 1:46:12 PM)
Master said something to me the other day. He said the men at work really thought he was lucky to have me. I asked him "Why did they say something like that?" He said, "Because there aren't many women around like you these days and men in general wish there were".

asubiam -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 1:50:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rover To begin, I think it's illegal to copy and paste copyrighted material like that. Next time you might consider using a link to the article. Looks to me like there is a link.

OnyxGoddess -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 2:00:13 PM)
I just have to chuckle. This article is kind of hilarious. But if men think that women have that much power they must in turn ask themselves..."how the hell did WE allow this to happen?" After all, didn't they have the power to begin with? All relationships are balances of power and exchanges for mutual satisfaction. Why is that such an issue? I think that the playing field is leveled out. Women are simply doing what men have been doing forever and a day without some of the nasty labels they used to get in the past. Sounds like some men are just a little bitter. To say the definition of feminine is "a woman who exchanges her power for a mans love" is ludacris. I know many women who are powerful and it is because they are powerful that thier men love them. One can be feminine and powerful all at once. *~O~* *ps...i didn't know the alpha-male species was dying out.-lol*

BDSM05478 -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 2:00:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slavejali Master said something to me the other day. He said the men at work really thought he was lucky to have me. I asked him "Why did they say something like that?" He said, "Because there aren't many women around like you these days and men in general wish there were". Daddy gets the same thing from his male relative and co-workers, even MY brothers joke about wanting a girl like their sister and they are kink lite and straight nilla.

Nosathro -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 2:30:42 PM)
Tal and greeting *quote:* Time to Be Men Again By Henry Makow Ph.D. March 9, 2003 "Modern men see women as 'castrating, vengeful, power-hungry and obsessed by men's sexual performance,'" a recent study by the French Edition of Elle Magazine concluded. First off this came from a magizane so it was in the public domain. As pointed already there was a link and as notied the article orgin was announced, therefore no copyright was violated. As to the subject matter there is a growing body of research that argues the roles of men and women are becoming emashed and that is creating dysfuntion in modern society. Some Behavioralist argue that as a society we need to return to a more structed culture. I wish you well Nosathro P.S. I believe the French do have a saying "Vival Diffreonce' "

Quivver -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 2:39:04 PM)
This reminds me alot of a thread a while back ........ http://www.collarchat.com/m_188604/mpage_1/key_american%2Cmen/tm.htm

Rover -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 2:46:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: asubiam quote: ORIGINAL: Rover To begin, I think it's illegal to copy and paste copyrighted material like that. Next time you might consider using a link to the article. Looks to me like there is a link. Looks to me as if the initial post was edited by Moderator Eleven. What does it look like to you? John

Rover -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 2:49:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro First off this came from a magizane so it was in the public domain. For the record, you misunderstand the usage of public domain. You may quote and reference, but it is still copyrighted material and cannot be copied wholesale without express permission of the author. John

crouchingtigress -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 2:49:44 PM)
i remember it was there from the start because i debated going to check it out. quote: ORIGINAL: Rover quote: ORIGINAL: asubiam quote: ORIGINAL: Rover To begin, I think it's illegal to copy and paste copyrighted material like that. Next time you might consider using a link to the article. Looks to me like there is a link. Looks to me as if the initial post was edited by Moderator Eleven. What does it look like to you? John

orfunboi -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 2:58:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rover quote: ORIGINAL: asubiam quote: ORIGINAL: Rover To begin, I think it's illegal to copy and paste copyrighted material like that. Next time you might consider using a link to the article. Looks to me like there is a link. Looks to me as if the initial post was edited by Moderator Eleven. What does it look like to you? John Well, that certainly would explain the mod notes then...lol

MstrssScarlet -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 3:42:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rover quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro First off this came from a magizane so it was in the public domain. For the record, you misunderstand the usage of public domain. You may quote and reference, but it is still copyrighted material and cannot be copied wholesale without express permission of the author. John CrouchingTigress is correct. The link to the original publication was included in the first post. If you look at the note as to WHY the post was edited, you will find it was simply because there was a picture removed (probably the one at the beginning of the original publication) and the article was too long to be posted in it's entirety. The moderator goes on to inform you that if you wish to read the entire article, just click on the link provided. No harm, No foul here. Mistress Scarlet

MstrssScarlet -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 3:45:05 PM)
Just an FYI...even if the link had not been provided, as long as credit is given to the original author there are no copyrighting laws being broken. Mistress Scarlet

LotusSong -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 3:46:11 PM)
Whenever I see something like this.. I'm reminded of the kindergarten boy mentality. "You don't play FAIR!.. I'm the daddy and YOU'RE the mommy and (stomping foot) YOU Have to stay home and I get to go to work!" "Why can't you just obey me and leave it at that?" Once men see women as partners instead of chattel.. life will be easier all around. Really, we're a pretty agreeable bunch when you take your foot off the back of our necks.

Rover -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 3:50:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet Just an FYI...even if the link had not been provided, as long as credit is given to the original author there are no copyrighting laws being broken. Mistress Scarlet Actually, that's not correct. You do not have a right to reproduce articles simply by giving credit to the author. Here are a few links relevant to the topic: http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html http://www.whatiscopyright.org/ http://www.copyright.gov/ John

Petruchio -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 9:39:54 PM)
The article got a little far out, but it was nonetheless fascinating.

littlesarbonn -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 10:26:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rover quote: ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet Just an FYI...even if the link had not been provided, as long as credit is given to the original author there are no copyrighting laws being broken. Mistress Scarlet Actually, that's not correct. You do not have a right to reproduce articles simply by giving credit to the author. Here are a few links relevant to the topic: http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html http://www.whatiscopyright.org/ http://www.copyright.gov/ John § 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use38 Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include — (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; (2) the nature of the copyrighted work; (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and (4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

VelvetVise13 -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/16/2006 11:52:03 PM)
Regardless of the copyright debate, back to the issue at hand - my personal opinion is that there must be a dominate party in every relationship. Just as there is only one CEO in any corporation, there should only be one CEO in a relationship. If everyone is yelping for complete equal rights there will be anarchy because some of us are just naturally born leaders. I happen to be in a relationship with a man that is a natural leader. Even though I am very strong and in control of a lot of things in my life, when it comes to he and I in our personal life, he's the dominate party. I am appreciative and accept that. Because I respect and trust him, I can submit to him. It doesn't demean me in any way for him to maintain dominance over me. I read an article a while back that said American women in the 50's had a happier home life, more and better sex than women today. I'm not suggesting we go back half a century because I for one don't think I could pull off that June Cleaver thing, but it does make you wonder how, as a female, you can have the best of both worlds.

LaTigresse -> RE: things are changing...and the v-nillas are scared (12/17/2006 4:52:00 AM)
Not to bunch anyone's boxers here but something I hear from many (straight) women is the shortage of men willing and able to step up to the plate and be the dominant one in the house. Too many wanting the good stuff and not willing to work at doing the tough stuff. I honestly am not man bashing, I have many friends that are male.[:D] I just wonder if with the change in women's education, their awareness of the world in general and just their over all confidence in their own abilities and power if the barre of their expectations of a dominant partner has been raised and men are struggling with that. Sort of along the lines of the theory of, educating the citizens of a country and they begin demanding more of their political leaders, kinda thought.

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