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RE: Domspace - 2/21/2005 4:55:19 PM   
mistoferin


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The thing is, we Doms/Dominas HAVE to focus - it is our responsibility to keep part of our consciousness aware of the changes in our sub's body language and responses, but successful Domspace, I think, comes with being able to incorporate that focus as part of our 'high'. The intensity of the focus is what gets me there in the first place.


I have to wonder if the chemical reactions that take place are indeed different then in domspace vs. subpsace. I would never be able to focus in space, I don't think that it would be mentally possible. For me, space is kind of like a great big shot of Demerol. I think that Sir could probably attest to the fact that sometimes I just get so far out of it there is just no way I can even respond much less focus. I can always hear Sir's voice but there are times that He will tell me to move a certain way and although I hear Him say it and I tell my leg for example to move.....that signal gets lost somewhere between my brain and my limb.

As for the eye thing, I know that Sir says my eyes get a glazed look or roll back. Not sure if they change color or what my pupils do though.

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RE: Domspace - 2/21/2005 5:26:36 PM   
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As is my wont, I started to compose my response to the first post in one part of my brain as I read the replies with another. Then I got to this post and had a look at what I said before. Funny, the reply in my head matched the reply I gave in the linked thread. Seems I knew what I was talking about then...at least for me. *laughing*


Nice! Doesn't it feel good to know we can be consistent in our ramblings? ;)

Btw, nice to see you around the boards again Tag.

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RE: Domspace - 2/21/2005 5:29:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Manawyddan

When in domspace I suppose my personality shifts to something like a stereotyped alpha male ... I become arrogant, full of myself, I feel an almost vampiric sense of sucking energy from the interaction from the sub. The next level, when I'm in full topspace and mid-scene, I feel feral and uncontrolled (although in fact I am always completely controlled, and completely focussed on guaging my partner's reactions).


Yup! I know what you mean. I've had a friend of mine watch me top one of my boys and he said I looked almost cat-like in my manoeuvres. My voice got deeper and I had this soft growl like a tigresse... <purrs>

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RE: Domspace - 2/22/2005 2:50:35 PM   
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I believe I have only had a distinct feeling of this once, but I have to agree with the other posts that it is a feeling of supreme focus where the rest of the dungeon, room, well the entire background fades into a fog, where you are so intent on what you are doing, nothing else seems to exist. I would liken this to a feeling I used to get years ago when performing in summerstock plays, where you could swear you were watching yourself on stage and hearing the sounds come from what seemed to be a source other than your own. In a nutshell..it's a trip.


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RE: Domspace - 2/22/2005 4:13:34 PM   
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Thanks all for the responses. And it seems that what I get is not at all unique (pout - LOL).

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RE: Domspace - 2/22/2005 5:23:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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I do not profess to know what is in His head or what He is feeling, but I do see a change in Him even physically. His eyes change, they narrow, .....heck I would swear they even change color. He appears to be looking at me through a tunnel. The intensity in his expressions make me feel like He can look right inside my head....like He is no longer really just gazing into my eyes but actually penetrating them with His.

I can also say that His space seems to occur before mine and His space also seems to be the catalyst that at times triggers mine. It is like when I see that change overcoming Him it allows me to resolve myself and settle into my own, to allow Him to guide me through the course. It is like a physical sign that He is now in total control, emotionally and physically...and I can then just relax and go with it.


I would also be very interested to know if other subs sense this transformation in their Dominants as well and if it is a non-verbal cue that allows them to drop that next step down into their own space.



yes. that's it. my Master's eyes seem like they are feeding off me. i just feel everything dropping into His hands.

and your initial post about the haze, the lack of focus.. that was "bullseye!" for me. the only sensations that get through are the ones He feeds me. yet, there is an automatic sort of drive... to stay on my feet, and not puddle to the floor, because i want to stay in that grip He has.

*delicious shiver* aaaaaaanyyyyyyyyyyyyway. yes, to what you said. *grin*


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RE: Domspace - 2/22/2005 5:59:04 PM   
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quote:

my Master's eyes seem like they are feeding off me


I did some research today on Domspace and went surfing onthe web and on old posts here. I really am very curious about the differences in the two and what makes that difference. Endorphin vs. adrenalin maybe? Hormones playing a role? Not sure.

What I found interesting in what you said was that it closely resembled a quote from a Dominant on an old thread here. He referred to the fact that while in Domspace he felt almost "Vampiric" in his feeding off of the energy of his sub. Interesting. I do get a very similar feeling as you described....like He is pulling from within me.

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RE: Domspace - 2/22/2005 10:12:27 PM   
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I agree with everything said before! :)

When I am in Topspace I feel diamond-focused on the sub before Me. It is like an empathic connexion. There are times when observers have commented that I breathe at the same rate the submissive/slave does!

I think it is telling that Doms go into sharp focus and subs go into hazy openness. if one were to diagram it, it would be thus: >) with the top becoming the sharp enterer and the sub becoming the opening receiver.

The bottom can envelop the Top in a very metaphysical sense while the Top encompasses the entire scene. We become larger than the scene than the bottom, we expand while at the same time narrowing into that concentration that enables and ennobles.

Ah, but the dreaded "Top drop" It takes longer to manifest, but it also is a softer fall, I think, than that of the submissive.

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RE: Domspace - 2/23/2005 7:18:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin
quote:

I had always thought that Dom space and sub space were somewhat alike. Now what has been stated here seems to be in direct contradiction to how I experience sub space. Once I enter sub space the last thing that I can conciously do is FOCUS. Quite the opposite....everything seems incredibly fuzzy...all lines blurred. This can last for hours after. It is hard to function and I have to think very hard about each thing I do.



i was recently talking to Sir about this very point. He told me He loves the feeling of being in Domspace, the only difference is that while i can float away on cloud nine, he still needs to be able to concentrate to make sure i am safe.

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RE: Domspace - 2/24/2005 8:45:12 AM   
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It seems I dealt myself a double whammy 2 weeks ago.

I had played with my submissive rather intensely early in the afternoon because I was scheduled to have my tattoo done at 4:30. So I was in Top space from the play session.

The tatt took an hour and 15 minutes. Yes, it hurt and when the needle was going out towards the hip area.. it really fucking hurt!!!!

LOL I ended up being completely spaced out for the rest of the evening. Much like sub space I suppose.

sub: Ma'am would you like the macaroni salad or the coleslaw?
Me : Yes.
sub: Ma'am?
Me : Yes?
sub : Which one Ma'am?
Me : Which one what?
Sub: Ma'am, are you alright?
Me : Of course I'm alright. Why would you ask? I'm perfectly fine.
Sub: Ma'am will you be making any decisions tonight?
Me: Of course I will. How silly. And I'll have the potatoe salad, thanks.

Still laughing about it,
MsC


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in answer to your question - 2/24/2005 9:41:41 PM   
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I once asked a playmate of mine whether I seemed different in topspace, and whether she could tell I'd entered it. This is excerpted from her response (keep in mind it was when we'd barely begun playing, five years ago): "to some extent it's the short, quick scratches applied in rapid succession; it's the little smirky grin on your face with your eyes closed, it's a sound from deep in your throat. maybe one day I'll learn more ... "



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RE: Domspace - 2/24/2005 10:08:59 PM   
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(and I often wonder how much of what some subs get out of D/s revolves around the fact of being the absolute centre and focus of her Dom's attention)


    [code][/code]Wow, that thought never even occured to me until I read it!

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