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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 10:53:10 AM   
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Mercnbeth:
Jack Herer has it exactly right.
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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 11:24:04 AM   
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I think a larger lobby against the legalization of drugs would come from law enforcement and prison guard unions.  Approximately 70% of the people in prison in the U.S. are there for drug related offenses.  If we made drugs legal that would mean, essentially, that 70 %  of the judges, prosecutors, public defenders, lawyers, cops, prison guards, prison constructors ....etc would be out of a job


Oh man.....is that ever true. And, that in and of itself is a good enough reason for me to make dope legal - What a paradox.

Could you imagine how much money the tax payers would save if they could somehow get rid of the contingent you just named off?





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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 1:43:10 PM   
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LOL…thompsonx  I wouldn’t even TRY to make wine; who has the room (or the patience) to store it till it’s drinkable?   

Really…ya gotta be male to distill spirits? Dammit, I’m gonna have to take up brandy-making then!  ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

BTW…Your profile is absolutely delightful!  I’m a 5th-generation Californian and spent time visiting my grandfather in the (tri-city) area of Trona/Argus/Westend.  Barstow feels like a neighbor!

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 4:11:36 PM   
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To my knowledge there is no quick, simple, roadside test for Marijuana as there is for alcohol.


Actually, all the cop has to do, after pulling the suspicious vehical over, is what he usually does:  walk up to the window and ask the driver, "how you doing today?"  if the driver responds, "groovey man," well...

This is close to how a friend of mine got busted.  When the cop asked him how he was doing, he burst out laughing and said, "oh man, I'm so fucking stoned!"

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 4:30:00 PM   
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LOL…thompsonx  I wouldn’t even TRY to make wine; who has the room (or the patience) to store it till it’s drinkable?   

Really…ya gotta be male to distill spirits? Dammit, I’m gonna have to take up brandy-making then!  ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

BTW…Your profile is absolutely delightful!  I’m a 5th-generation Californian and spent time visiting my grandfather in the (tri-city) area of Trona/Argus/Westend.  Barstow feels like a neighbor!

Beverly


Beverly:
Brandy is a distilled spirit so you are out of luck on that one also.  I would hazard a guess that if a woman wanted to apply for a license to make alcohol under the same circumstances that a man would the license would most likely be granted...if it were not then remind the person who denied you about the equal protection clause of the fourth and foutheenth ammendmnent and also remind that person that they personally would be liable for both civil and criminal prosecution for denying you your constitutional rights....this restriction is an old law and I am not sure if it has been rescended or not.

Not only is my profile delightful but so am I.
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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 4:34:28 PM   
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...good point about DUI enforcement. i'm not sure if a test exists, although it ought not be beyond the wit of man. As to the thing about marijuana staying in the system, many chemicals stay in the system for a long time, but have no measurable effect on the person. Cold remedies are one such substance, their effects being over relatively quickly, but disqualifying someone from giving blood for a much longer time.

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 4:37:53 PM   
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To my knowledge there is no quick, simple, roadside test for Marijuana as there is for alcohol.

Actually, all the cop has to do, after pulling the suspicious vehicle over, is what he usually does:  walk up to the window and ask the driver, "how you doing today?"  if the driver responds, "groovy man," well...
This is close to how a friend of mine got busted.  When the cop asked him how he was doing, he burst out laughing and said, "oh man, I'm so fucking stoned!"


Reminded of a very old joke.

A cop pulls over a weaving driver. He asks him to take a Breathalyzer test. "I can't he says, I'm recovering from a collapsed lung and still can't take any deep breaths." - "Okay, says the officer, lets go down to the station and I'll give you a blood test." "Sorry officer, I'm a hemophiliac. I'm afraid I could die from that." Getting frustrated the officer says; "Well then, close your eyes, spread out your arms and touch you nose." "Wish I could but ever since I was in the army and I was standing too close to a shell exploding I got a bad concussion and have a bit of a coordination problem, especially when I close my eyes." Exasperated the officer says; "Well, I'll tell you what if you can walk on the painted straight yellow line on the side of this road - I'll let you go." "Sorry says the driver, that is just IMPOSSIBLE - I can't do that." "Why the hell not!?"; asks the cop? The driver replies; "Because asshole, I'm drunk! Can't you tell!??"

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 4:47:17 PM   
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Silly one... THAT is exactly WHY I wanna now make Brandy...and yes, of course it's a distilled spirit!  A little goes a long ways, which is why I wouldn't worry about quantity limits.  But...other than bench-pressing anything close to my weight or more...I wanna do everything a guy gets to do!
 
Of course, that would include writing my name in da snow; though it might be a boy's instrument I'd use!  <WEG>
 
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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/19/2006 4:54:57 PM   
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philosophy:
The premise behind the DUI test is to test for the  level of  impairment.  Blood alcohol content has been shown to correlate exactly with level of impairment due to alcohol.
It is not against the law to drive while under the infuence of marijuana or alcohol.  It is against the law to drive sufficiently impaired as to be a hazard to navigation...so if you can pass the physical test for impairment then there should be no problem.

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/26/2006 10:19:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsBearlee

Silly one... THAT is exactly WHY I wanna now make Brandy...and yes, of course it's a distilled spirit!  A little goes a long ways, which is why I wouldn't worry about quantity limits.  But...other than bench-pressing anything close to my weight or more...I wanna do everything a guy gets to do!
 
Of course, that would include writing my name in da snow; though it might be a boy's instrument I'd use!  <WEG>
 
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MsBearlee:
I am sorry I did not respond sooner but I did not see your post till just now.
If you would really like to write your name in the snow I would be honored if you would use my pen.  I am assuming that it will be in all capital letters and cursive script.  Now if you have never done this before I would suggest using both hands.
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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/26/2006 10:25:04 PM   
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I think alcohol does more damage to people than marijuana ever could. Alcohol makes people violent, depressed, wrecks the liver, ruins lives and families....and beer smells horrible too.

Marijuana is actually a sacred plant to many cultures.

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/26/2006 11:37:46 PM   
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Did any one remember them saying how pot supposable caused the reduction of pulmonary illnesses.

I may be wrong but hell.
Red wines good for me!
Pots good for me!

Shit i,m set.


Plus tax money for the war.
Hell our troops money this time.

Maybe use it to build the wall between us and mexico.
  That.....Crap that would stop me...

Wouldnt keep the wall up thow.

 No more itchy fabric.....er....never mind.

Papers...really you can make pot into papers...
Wow thats like real hundred proofing .

Heres a thought.
How about I find a way to turn it into a form of gas man.
I mean for cars....

Wouldnt that be a.....wait is that possibly, possible.

Oh and yeah and peace and love, crap like that.

Oh wait no.
cause the reason pot was made illegal was to jail african americans.
The jail sentance used to be life if they were caught with it.

ell least me shrooms wont go stail.

nyah....

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/26/2006 11:40:10 PM   
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Because if they choose the stupidest post on here for the news.
Let it at least have subliminal messages and sh**.

Oh and i,m not high.
Just an idiot.

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/26/2006 11:47:44 PM   
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<general comment>

The report mentioned in the Guardian story is available at http://www.drugscience.org/bcr/index.html.

FWIW, the report was published by a group, DrugScience.org, that seeks to reform marijuana laws.

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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/27/2006 4:35:39 AM   
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I am not in favor of legalization.   But then I am not in favor of alcohol either.

As a soldier, well former one, my life depended on the abilities of people to react around me.   Anything that altered that was a detriment as far as I am concerned.


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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/27/2006 2:02:33 PM   
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I am not in favor of legalization.   But then I am not in favor of alcohol either.

As a soldier, well former one, my life depended on the abilities of people to react around me.   Anything that altered that was a detriment as far as I am concerned.




KenDckey:
You have stated on numerous post that you were an office worker while you were in the military....When would your life have been danger if  one of your co-workers in the office had been smoking marijuana.
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RE: Hot on pot! - 12/31/2006 1:58:02 AM   
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The only problem now
is getting all the pot heads to vote in the first place.

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RE: Hot on pot! - 1/21/2007 7:59:19 AM   
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The only problem now
is getting all the pot heads to vote in the first place.


MasDom:
I should think if they were given someone to vote fore besides "fuck me and screw me "they would show up in droves to vote.
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RE: Hot on pot! - 1/21/2007 10:10:52 AM   
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Pot will only remain a big cash crop as long as it is illegal, of course. I am sure there'd be some comercial market but when it grows like a weed, I doubt it'd be much. The fact of it's present financial weight is just an indication of how many north americans are being criminalised by present legislation and how much public money is wasted on enforcement and punishment.

I'd predict a huge drop in crimes of violence and public mischief if it were legalised.

Popular attempts at legalisation or even decriminalisation here in Canada, have been confounded by direct pressure from the USA, the coersion in the form of threats agains unrelated interests (i.e. economic hostage taking). The paranoia this issue inspires south of the border is astounding. A good deal of Canadian annoyance with the USA results from the willingness of the USA to enforce it's moral (and immoral) policies, beyond its borders and upon mature, friendly democracies.

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RE: Hot on pot! - 1/21/2007 9:15:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zensee

Pot will only remain a big cash crop as long as it is illegal, of course. I am sure there'd be some comercial market but when it grows like a weed, I doubt it'd be much. The fact of it's present financial weight is just an indication of how many north americans are being criminalised by present legislation and how much public money is wasted on enforcement and punishment.


When you press the seeds, I hear the resulting oil is pretty much a drop in replacement for diesel #2.

Now who doesn't want to really see an end to the tail of peak oil? Hmm.





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