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Missokyst -> Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:01:25 PM)
OOPs.. LOL.. I posted this to the wrong forum. This looks like the right place. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ok, I have got to admit I just don't get it. I LOVE orgasms! They are relaxing, they make me content, give me a sense of well being, and when provided by someone close, I feel I could walk to the ends of the earth for them if they asked. Having that body to body contact, exchange of fluids, hot breath and sweat is like a drug that keeps me in willing to do almost anything to please him for a long time. Lack of that pulsing, throbbing relief, for me, makes me irritable and unhappy. Last night the topic of orgasm control came up in one of my chat rooms. I said.. I just don't understand that. And lol.. about half the doms immediately said; "It is about control! How is it submission if we are giving you orgasms for YOUR pleasure? If you enjoy it, it isn't submission." Well.. I have done plenty I didn't particularly enjoy because I was with someone who made me mindnumbingly happy in other areas. And.. actually, doing those things, even though they were not enjoyable.. became enjoyable because I really needed to please that guy who brought me such physical relief. I have to wonder if there is a need to control orgasms because they have so much fear of unabandoned sexuality. What are your thoughts? Do you enjoy orgasm control and if so, why? Have you been denied orgasms? What does it bring you? Kyst

Rover -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:44:41 PM)
I am certainly not of the belief that if you enjoy an orgasm as a submissive, it isn't submission. That is an illogical point of view (as if one cannot derive pleasure from their submission). However, I do enjoy orgasm control, and yes it's about control (and specifically, about control of something so very personal). That is not to be confused with orgasm denial, which is an entirely different issue (the absence of orgasms). Orgasm control does not imply the absence of orgasms, but control over the when, where, how, etc. that they are to be experienced. The pleasure of that control also includes the gratification experienced with the "giving" of orgasms. Depending upon the level of control and individual capabilities, that may include orgasm on command (great for some semi-public play, and for sadists). John

marieToo -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:48:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rover I am certainly not of the belief that if you enjoy an orgasm as a submissive, it isn't submission. That is an illogical point of view (as if one cannot derive pleasure from their submission). However, I do enjoy orgasm control, and yes it's about control (and specifically, about control of something so very personal). That is not to be confused with orgasm denial, which is an entirely different issue (the absence of orgasms). Orgasm control does not imply the absence of orgasms, but control over the when, where, how, etc. that they are to be experienced. The pleasure of that control also includes the gratification experienced with the "giving" of orgasms. Depending upon the level of control and individual capabilities, that may include orgasm on command (great for some semi-public play, and for sadists). John Nice post John....But come on....orgasm on command? Whoever she was--she was faking it.

heartfeltsub -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:53:54 PM)
Actually it depends on what one means when the term "cum on command' is used. If it means, holding off the orgasm while being aroused until a command is issued allowing it to be released, that is something that i was trained to do to the point that unless i'm masturbating solely on my own (ie no instruction to masturbate) i can't cum without that command. If it means, no arousal one moment and orgasming the next, that would be far more rare, though i have met some who say they have done so through hypnotic suggestion. Have not experienced that, so i can't say one way or another.

AquaticSub -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:53:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo Nice post John....But come on....orgasm on command? Whoever she was--she was faking it. During sex I can be commanded to orgasm.

crouchingtigress -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:57:22 PM)
i can orgasm on command marie.....there is a secret word that will do it for me....but i dont tell no one...[;)]

BDSM05478 -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:57:44 PM)
on command is possible, like pavlovs dogs any response can be conditioned, not saying it is easy or even common, just possible. And she wasn't faking , you can't fake when your a squirter..... not to be too graphic. edited to add ~ That is something I would love to be able to do btw! I could just imagine the reaction when I started laughing and crying at the same time for no apparent reason lol

Rover -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:58:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo Nice post John....But come on....orgasm on command? Whoever she was--she was faking it. Oh yea of little faith. :) I thought you might have caught a glimpse of that in Niagara Falls and at PEP Buffalo. John

Rover -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 3:59:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress i can orgasm on command marie.....there is a secret word that will do it for me....but i dont tell no one...[;)] Just email it to me, Amy. I promise to use it very judiciously. :) John

marieToo -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 4:00:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress i can orgasm on command marie.....there is a secret word that will do it for me....but i dont tell no one...[;)] Aw come on and share! Maybe it'll work on me too!

Rover -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 4:01:07 PM)
Oh, forgot to mention that I know of someone who can orgasm to polysyballic words. I was able to lend a hand (as it were) at the Long Island Fetish Event (LIFE) a few years back. Some others here on this board may recall that as well. John

marieToo -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 4:02:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rover quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo Nice post John....But come on....orgasm on command? Whoever she was--she was faking it. Oh yea of little faith. :) I thought you might have caught a glimpse of that in Niagara Falls and at PEP Buffalo. John I musta been sleeping through it.

AquaticSub -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 4:05:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BDSM05478 on command is possible, like pavlovs dogs any response can be conditioned, not saying it is easy or even common, just possible. And she wasn't faking , you can't fake when your a squirter..... not to be too graphic. You too? Grins We have to lay out playmats and towels before doing anything. Such a pain...

moftop61 -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 4:12:10 PM)
i have been trained to cum on command sort of. i can hold back an orgasm until my Master says to cum. Sometimes i can't cum and He is usually okay with that. I find that by being denied pleasure it makes the pleasure so much more enjoyable when it cums. m

BDSM05478 -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 4:18:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: BDSM05478 on command is possible, like pavlovs dogs any response can be conditioned, not saying it is easy or even common, just possible. And she wasn't faking , you can't fake when your a squirter..... not to be too graphic. You too? Grins We have to lay out playmats and towels before doing anything. Such a pain... Hell I'm not worried about any of that stuff, I don't mind sleeping in the wet spots, actually like it nasty lil girl i am lol and this one time i did it from anal sex. now that was weird lol getting it in one hole and cumming out the other.... ok now maybe that was too graphic

LaMspeach -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 4:39:02 PM)
What are your thoughts? As Rover said it isn't about orgasm denial ... It is about something so personal, intimate and the ability to be able to give that to Master to the extent that i no long have any control over where when or how I orgasm. Do you enjoy orgasm control and if so, why? Yes i enjoy orgasm control. It gives me comfort knowing that no matter how far apart we are Master still controls an intimate of my life. Have you been denied orgasms? Since I no longer orgasm with out Master's command and trigger words and we are long distance i guess you can say i am denied orgasms. I physically cant orgasm with out his command. What does it bring you? It brings me comfort knowing Master is pleased and i can give him something so personal... not to mention awesome orgasms.

MmakeMme -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 5:16:10 PM)
I ~lovvvvvvvvve~ orgasm denial. It's sooooooooo ... Dom. ~delicious shiver~ (And seriously, I love having to fracture my focus - my body says to do one thing, Sir says to do another, and I have to obey.) Gawd, the thought just makes me wanna cum! (Somebody please stop me!)

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 5:29:32 PM)
I personally love orgasm denial. I love him letting it build and build. I also love the begging that I have to do along with it.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 6:17:15 PM)
Editing and reposting something I posted on this same subject recently: I used to feel guilty for having orgasms, until I met my Master. Now any "pleasure" I feel really belongs to him, not me. He has command and control of my body and its responses, so I can not feel guilty for what he does with it. He has trained my body to respond as he wishes, and it is out of my control completely. He finds great pleasure in bringing me to such a state of lust whereby I turn into a needy, writhing, twisting, savage beast, wild with desire for him, begging for just a hint a relief because the pressure building inside me becomes almost unbearable. It is not pleasure I beg for, but to relieve the pressure cooker, else I go insane. I could not beg for pleasure; it would not be right. It is having such power to affect me that brings him amusement and satisfaction. And when he finally gives the command to explode for him (and it is for him), he derives further satisfaction from watching his slut veer into another plane, convulsing, thrashing, and possessed by what he has implanted in me. This is not necessarily a pleasurable experience for me, as I am truly possessed and overcome by what is occuring, and it can last an exhaustingly long time...to the point of collapse. But the result is a journey into the depths of my essence, and when he has stopped me (there is no stopping until he says so), I crumble to the floor, panting, gasping, and clinging desperately to him with need. He loves this - and it really is all about him. I would like to add that cumming on command is possible, as is squirting/gushing on command. The mind can will anything, folks, it just takes a lot of work.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Orgasm denial (12/19/2006 6:17:43 PM)
I get nothing from denial either. If I do not feel comfortable orgasming- it's just not going to happen. You can play with me for hours and I won't feel anything but uncomfortable. And, after a few days, I'll have trouble sleeping, feel disoriented and disconnected, low energy and very unhappy. It's funny how you never see doms who want to deny their slaves their time to pray, but so many want to deny the orgasm. For me, denying my orgasm would be like denying prayer is for religious people- denying my connection to existence and place of center. I know lots of people feel more intense orgasms with denial, but it doesn't work for me. http://www.collarchat.com/m_588912/mpage_2/key_orgasm%252Ccontrol/tm.htm#592158 orgasm on command? http://www.collarchat.com/m_412753/mpage_1/key_cum%252Ccommand/tm.htm#412758 cum control http://www.collarchat.com/m_313958/mpage_4/key_orgasm%252Ccommand/tm.htm#318568 cum on command http://www.collarchat.com/m_400934/mpage_1/key_cum%252Ccommand/tm.htm#400996 orgasm on demand

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