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akbarbarian -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:49:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: julietsierra quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian Wanting to make her angry, that's emotional manipulation. That's the verbal version of a drunken man with a bottle who uses domestic violence to get his way. It's non consentual, it's abuse. You expect you can make her angry, but don't consider the alternative to anger is depression? Those two emotions are very closely linked. If your ego permits, take a good look at what you've done. You want to make her upset enough that she'll do what you want her to. yea yea yea...have you figured out yet that I really don't care what you think of what I said, and that all your oh so convincing attempts to convince me of the error of my ways isn't working? I stand by what I said, how I said it and the reasons why I said it. Beyond that, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Don't worry though.. you'll get over it. juliet I realize that, and I don't expect us to agree. However, anyone reading this discussion will be able to see the consequences of this sort of approach and we will all be able to see in advance what the result will be of flaming someone we don't approve of. If you listen fine. If others listen, so much the better for our community. I prefer peace and acceptance offered for all to come, and all who stay. After all, if we don't accept each other, what community will?

ObjectivistPNW -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:50:27 PM)
First thing to remember. Don't lower your standards, but when disappointed, you need to raise them.

akbarbarian -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:50:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MaryT quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian Wanting to make her angry, that's emotional manipulation. That's the verbal version of a drunken man with a bottle who uses domestic violence to get his way. It's non consentual, it's abuse. I think anyone who participates in a forum like this is consenting to any honest reply. It bothers me to see the term "consentual" twisted around, especially when it's twisted around free speech in an open forum. Also, your comparison to domestic violence is just ludicrous. MaryT, who does violence prevention education for a living Verbal abuse is just as serious as physical abuse.

Aeon -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:50:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MaryT quote: ORIGINAL: Aeon OMG!! complete hogwash! Mother's are most often MORE protective of their lives than anyone else. Just because she has children does not make her an "easy target". i am so sick of this "all mothers are deperate" kind of logic. It's complete horse manure. When i had kids my standards went up not down! And has anyone here ever heard the saying about assumptions before! Don't assume because it makes an ASS out of U and ME! How can you possibly say that because her name here is tears and torment that she is suffering from postpartum depression. Good grief! That's a ridiculous assumption! i can think of a hundred reasons why someone might choose that as thier screenname....none of them having to do with children at all! LMAO! I've raised two myself and am quite familiar with maternal instincts. I never said anything like "all mothers are desparate" so that leap is your own - and there was nothing logical about it. I do know that the last thing I would be thinking about if I had a new baby on my hands would be looking for a Dom, and I sure as hell wouldn't be willing to uproot for one. That's just poor judgment - plain and simple. I could believe she is simply an idiot but she didn't come across that way. So I'm banking on emotional distress leading to poor judgment - which is hardly a stretch. And, yes, her screen name feeds my perception. I don't believe I made an ass out of anyone. And since you are laughing yours off, I'll consider it a mute point. MaryT Haha...very cute....lol really but again she made it very clear that she was ready to move long before the baby and was not uprooting simply "for a new Dom" but because she wanted to move. Period. And i'll make the point one more time that her search for a new Dom PROBABLY started long before the baby came. And if you have had children of your own then you know that you don't have to spend 24 hours a day thinking of nothing but your child to be a good mother and provider. All of those points were based on assumptions. She never once stated that those things were the case.

mnottertail -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:52:14 PM)
BULLSHIT. Nonconsensual my ass. Far as your insightful and seriously given advise goes, how did it differ in any respect than mine? Worded differently, and perhaps encrypted via the readers youth, but thank god, because of you and your chopping to the heart of the matter, she has now recieved the oracle, and having no further business to place before the other base folk out here, can now take leave. I for one owe you a debt of gratitude, that shan't be repaid, for your personal and vigourous counselling the one person that in the travails and angst of youth and harrassing emails out here (all today by the way, had you checked that part of the profile). That's right; the heineously foisted upon youth, who's only fault laid cheifly in the fact that she cut and pasted her profile in it's entirety and without paraphrase here, for you to rekindle her flame, this somber and solomn holiday season. Yet, you haven't had the same sort of day at the track with those that spell it I,m---now have you? Of course there was no chance of snagging any pussy there. I shall give this its due consideration. Ron

akbarbarian -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:53:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: julietsierra quote: ORIGINAL: Aeon No one is saying You HAVE to mew and puke over every player that comes out, but i see this conitinually here on the boards. Someone comes in...asks a perfectly legitimate question...and is completely berated by someone because they went and read her profile and are trying to pull info from all four corners of the earth to come up with some big picture of the situation. Why not just answer the fucking question without all the lecturing and judging and finger-wagging? Don't you just hate it when you can't control the comments of other people to say exactly what you would say in any given situation? juliet Yes you can be lecturing and judgemental if you really want to be. But, do you really want to be?

julietsierra -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:55:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian After all, if we don't accept each other, what community will? Oooh, the "community" argument!!! It took FOUR pages to get there!! Just what community would you be referring to? The one where you live in Alaska? Or the one where that girl lived in Oregon? Or the one where I live in Michigan? And I can't wait for the webster's definition of community. That should be next. juliet

Aeon -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:56:17 PM)
i think if you took a look at your own original post you will see who it really is that is angry about people not living the way you would have them live. i am not trying to control anyone. Simply asking a rhetorical question for all here to consider. Why do You all feel the need to jump down someone's throat based on assumptions and judge them...which i must add NOBODY has the right to do. Not you or anyone else has the right to EVER judge another human being.

julietsierra -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:57:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian Yes you can be lecturing and judgemental if you really want to be. But, do you really want to be? lol...You are really going through the list aren't you? This would be the appeal to shame? juliet

MasDom -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:57:34 PM)
What troubled times. Yet to one life its own recourse.

akbarbarian -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:57:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ObjectivistPNW First thing to remember. Don't lower your standards, but when disappointed, you need to raise them. Very wise, thanks for the fortune cookie it's simple but sounds very true [:)]

julietsierra -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 5:59:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aeon i think if you took a look at your own original post you will see who it really is that is angry about people not living the way you would have them live. i am not trying to control anyone. Simply asking a rhetorical question for all here to consider. Why do You all feel the need to jump down someone's throat based on assumptions and judge them...which i must add NOBODY has the right to do. Not you or anyone else has the right to EVER judge another human being. And yet...here you are...

mnottertail -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 6:01:25 PM)
It may not be our right as humans; Aeon, but by god it is our talent.... There shouldn't be murders, or wars and the childrens bowls should never go empty, I am for you Madam, but there are those of us who; having not made the world must live in it, and therefore hasten to instruct the youth that because they are virgins, and innocents is no reason that when they put their hand above the flame on the stove, that they shall not be burnt. Santa Claus

akbarbarian -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 6:01:30 PM)
And my judgement is that we should not judge. Touche? That's dirty pool lol

Aeon -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 6:01:36 PM)
yes here i am...what is your point? That made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Are you trying to say i have judged someone? Read back dear...i have not passed judgement on anyone here yet...in fact go back and read my nearly 150 posts....i never have.

akbarbarian -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 6:03:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail It may not be our right as humans; Aeon, but by god it is our talent.... There shouldn't be murders, or wars and the childrens bowls should never go empty, I am for you Madam, but there are those of us who; having not made the world must live in it, and therefore hasten to instruct the youth that because they are virgins, and innocents is no reason that when they put their hand above the flame on the stove, that they shall not be burnt. Santa Claus I touched the oil cooking stove as a toddler, in many places, all over it while it was running. I wanted to find out which parts were hottest. Funny, but I didn't get burned. Maybe humans intrinsically deserve more faith than we give them credit for.

Aeon -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 6:04:33 PM)
Ain't that the goddamn truth... Give people the choice between right and wrong and nine times out of ten they will choose wrong. But SOME people forget sometimes that they are just as much a part of perpetuating this theme of humanity as the rest of their fellow humans are. We are none of us any better than our neighbors. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" JESUS

julietsierra -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 6:06:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aeon fact go back and read my nearly 150 posts....i never have. psst...that'd be 137, but who's counting... laughing juliet

Aeon -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 6:07:54 PM)
Duh!! that why i said NEARLY 150! No valid points to add huh?

akbarbarian -> RE: am i alone? (12/23/2006 6:08:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aeon Ain't that the goddamn truth... Give people the choice bewteen right and wrong and nine times out of ten they will choose wrong. But SOME people forget sometimes that they are just as much a part of perpetuating this theme of humanity as the rest of us are. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" JESUS No no no, more faith, I think you misunderstood me, not less [:)] People can do good, even when we're not "supervising" them. I see lack of faith all too often. My doc said I couldn't lower my blood pressure with diet and exercise because americans just don't eat well enough as a rule yet I did, and on, and on.

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