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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/25/2006 9:07:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Blast your way out!!!!! You can escape any high speed chase in NJ by making a series of left hand turns.

Ron 


Ron, why ?  b/c the cops chasing you have to take the jughandles to make the left-hand turns, and that takes more time ?

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/25/2006 9:11:04 PM   
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Forget seatbelts.  Forget crumple zones.  Forget all other safety measures in cars.  Just put a sharpened 12" metal spike in the middle of every steering wheel, and the roads will suddenly become a much safer place.


I usually drive MUCH too fast, and much too impatiently.  That quote is the wisest thing I've seen in a long time !

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/25/2006 11:11:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: letmecollaryou

Does it mean we are supposed to wear seat belts in our homes expecting earthquakes? I f you are sensless or reckless driver,i dont think seatbelt can save you .On the contrary if you have brains and training,you dont need it or do you?


Yes - as  wisperedsighs pointed out.

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ORIGINAL: whisperedsighs

One of the benefits of a seat belt is they hold you in place so that you can possibly avoid a worse accident by continuing to maintain control of the vehicle. 


It's part of the equipment which ensures you have best control of your vehicle and prevents minor collisions from becoming major ones.

If you ride in me car you wear a seatbelt because I don't want to get smacked by you flying around the compartment in a collision.

Because they allow the car to absorb much of the energy of impact they improve your chance of survival and reduce injuries, especially the steering wheel to the chest and the windshield face plant type of life altering owies and the 'I was thrown clear... into the path of my rolling vehicle'. life ending type of owie.

Are they perfect in all cases? No. As a device for improving road and vehicle safety are they clearly effective? Absolutely. Should they be required by law and enforced? Abso-fukin-lutely.


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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/25/2006 11:22:53 PM   
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Really, what is the big deal???? Laws are made for a reason.... drama is so old....   my sister was fined $110.00 for tossing a bud out the window.... Oh boo hoo.... She littered...

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/25/2006 11:30:02 PM   
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i have a hard issue with seatbelts, i am to short to wear them with out being in a booster seat (that sucks) so we go a holder it holsters it down a few inches so its not cutting off my head.

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/25/2006 11:48:01 PM   
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i'm in full agreement that you, as an individual, should be free to choose whether or not you wear you seatbelt - providing the people working for the emergency service are also free to exercise their right to choose when it comes to whether or not they feel like cutting you out of your car or scraping you off the road - not forgetting the rights of social services to chose whether they deal with any kids you may have left behind.

i'm with NG - civil liberties are wonderful, providing they're teamed with at least a smidge of common sense and respect.

jmo

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 12:29:17 AM   
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what about the people who are decapitated (hope i spelled that right) by seat belts..? I guess if it's your time to die there is nothing you can do about it whether you wear a seat belt or not...but I will wear one for now on, for nothing more than to help assure I'm here for a long time for my children...as for the littering, I never knew they would give you a ticket for throwing a cigarette out the window?????? I am big on save the enviroment but damn...that's a bit extreme don't ya think?

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 12:40:45 AM   
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Just my 2 cents here...

I am well past the age of legal majority, no longer have any dependents, and am insured up the wazoo...if I choose not to wear my seatbelt, that should be my decision. 

But then, it is my opinion that there is too much government in our day to day lives.

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 4:53:35 AM   
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i believe it should be up to the individual. i own one car that has never even had seatbelts installed in it (a 1963 model). i also ride motorcycles (i do wear a helmet, by choice). It's not the .gov's job to be my mother, father, or wetnurse. FWIW, i believe that our society could do just fine if we reduced the number of laws on the books by 2/3rds or so. 

Good luck finding yourself a nice sadistic warden

...dave

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 4:58:39 AM   
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atta girl.  We want you here for a long, long time too Krissi

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 5:10:10 AM   
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My whole take on the situation?

I'm all for enforcement of wearing seatbelts but not to the point that they are being done so today.

Back when they became mandatory in Michigan,  the deal was that you would be given another ticket for not wearing a seatbelt when you were pulled over for something.  But you couldn't be pulled over for simply not wearing a seatbelt.

NOW,  they can pull you over if they THINK you're not wearing a seatbelt.  That drastically changed the playing field.  Maybe it's not so in other areas,  but in New York state I saw a LOT of cops using the seatbelt law to pull over people simply in the hopes of finding something else to nail them on.

* That damned guy has an anti-Bush sticker on his car.  But he's opening the speedlimit and following the rules of the road.  Let's stop him for "not wearing a seatbelt" and see if we can get him for something on 'discovery' *



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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 5:18:13 AM   
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I agree razor,in new york they can peer through the windows of your car and pull you over for not wearing a seatbelt, thats no different than peeking through the windows of my home to observe my activities.  

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 5:26:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: letmecollaryou

Does it mean we are supposed to wear seat belts in our homes expecting earthquakes? I f you are sensless or reckless driver,i dont think seatbelt can save you .On the contrary if you have brains and training,you dont need it or do you?


What if you are a safe driver but everyone else on the road isn't?  If they only granted driver's licenses to the ones with brains, no, we wouldn't need seat belts. 

What i find rather silly is wearing a seat belt on an airplane, like that would be a benefit in a crash, but i wear it anyway.


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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 5:57:24 AM   
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Kids follow the example of their parents. Ask yourself this. When your children start driving at age 16, will they buckle up when their parents don't think it is necessary?

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 9:16:26 AM   
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If you sit in the back without a seatbelt you’ll most likely kill or seriously injure the person in front of you.

Who pays out the money for the fact you’ll need special care for the rest of your life?

Does it not set a bad example for younger people who look up to you?

I could probably think of loads of other reasons given enough time.

Also it’s nice to feel wanted.


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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 9:20:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

 I got a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt, and I was only a passenger in a car...

I actually went to court when the law went into effect in Va and beat it. The judge said he had never dismissed a charge like that before.

I use to not wear a helmet when I rode in Md on My 1968 650 Bonniville Triumph

you might want to pay that ticket now...they are kinda like the IRS...they come after anybody and with occured interest.


Ross

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 9:23:36 AM   
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eyes if you wear it properly,  ie tight an in correct position, in cases of severe turbulance it could keep you from flying up and smacking your head on the overhead.

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 9:38:08 AM   
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Krissi wrote:

.....seatbelts, do you think it should be YOUR decision whether or not to wear them?



It should be up to the individual.
 
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Sorry, Krissi, but no.  Of course, it's your life, but your life affects other people.  What about your boys?  What happens if you get hurt?  And, ok, your kids wear seatbelts (and I am glad) but others may take it too far and decide that not only they, but their kids don't have to wear them either.


As for how an adult's decision affects their kids, what hang-gliding? Or motocross racing? All dangerous...  I definitely think we have think about our kids when we do things, but where do we draw the line? And for what it's worth, I strongly support everyone buckling up. *hugs my friend  and smiles*

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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 9:39:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

I totally forgot that about 2 months ago I got a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt, and I was only a passenger in a car...I feel it should be MY decision whether or not to wear a seatbelt, after all--it's MY life, right? As far as children are concerned, they should have to be wearing seat belts at all times...The ticket was like $45.00 of course I ignored it...then forgot about it lol...now I got a warrant out for my arrest unless i pay $80.00 so I guess it's time I give the state of New Jersey their Christmas gift.....seatbelts, do you think it should be YOUR decision whether or not to wear them?


Dear Fugitive,


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RE: I'm A Wanted Woman - 12/26/2006 9:42:03 AM   
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I wear seatbelts for my safety, but I don't think that cops should be on the roads harrassing me about it; nor should they make money trying to keep me alive.   So yes you should wear the seatbelt, but I don't think it should be a law, or one to be enforced with $80 penalty.     M


For a seatbelt ticket here, it's $110.00, unless it's a warrant, then add $50.00, and add $259.00 if you fail to appear, and $30.00 if we put you in Omnibase to keep you from renewing your DL, and finally, tack on 30% of all the previous to cover the cost of the state-mandated collection agency fee.

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