pixelslave
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ORIGINAL: FLsubmalecd Hi Pixel, I do not know how to frame and quote responses like you did. (gotta learn that). That's easy enough to do! Just insert extra pairs of (/quote) and (quote) for the parts you want to keep. Only you'll need to replace the paretheses I've used with brackets just as you see them in the message reply box in order to make them work. quote:
But maybe I was misunderstood. So I will try to address each question you raised. Do I know anyone that has transitioned? The answer is yes. I also have one dear friend that is non-op and prefers to stay that way, but lives 24/7 as a woman. Do I accept her for being a woman? Yes I do have perhaps more empathy and acceptance of TS's then some due to my being a CD. I think I do. Now there is a total difference in liking, accepting, befriending someone, and socializing with someone then submitting to and serving them. You can call it a preference or whatever. My preference is to be in a relationship with a genetic woman and to submit only to her. It has nothing at all to do with my accepting anyone and that includes myself. I guess this is where the root of the misunderstand lies with me in what you've said. On one hand you say that you accept your TS friend as a woman (I recognize she's non-op at the moment), but state you would only serve a genetic woman. If you had a deep friendship with a TS that suddenly developed or "sparked" into something with potential for more, would you still reject her because she wasn't genetically pure even though she was post-op and you physically and emotionally saw her as a woman? quote:
BTW, I have never been rejected because I am a CD. Every woman I ever had any kind of a deep relationship with knew and accepted me for me. I'm glad you clarified that, as my impression from your posts, both in this thread and others was that your experience had been something other than what you've just described, but you didn't use the "deep relationship" qualifier at that particular time. quote:
I think you went to far to suggest that I don't care about or accept TS's simply because I would never submit to one. I accept all for what and who they are. That does not mean I have to like a relationship beyond a friendship with them. I think we all are picky about what we want and like in our lifestyle. Maybe I did not articulate myself very well. Maybe I am failing to do so now. But again, it is just a preference as to who I will or will not submit to. Yes, we all have our preferences as to who we will or will not submit to. You seem to have a preference as well as to "what" you will or will not submit to, not just to "whom". While trying my best not to sound judgmental, it comes across to me as a prejudice and not just a preference. Perhaps it is just semantics, I don't really know. quote:
As an example: I accept gays for who and what they are. I have had gay friends. They may be cherished as friends. But that does not mean I will have sex with them. Isn't that like comparing apples and oranges? No one asked if you were gay! quote:
I have TS friends, but that does not mean I want a relationship with them beyond friendship. You made some good points. But you clearly made some wrong assumtions about my acceptance of myself.....All because it is my choice, my preference to serve ONLY a genetic female. That's kind of like saying I don't accept myself as a male because I won't submit to a male! I do think you were way off base there. But understandable in a post of a few words subject to misinterpretation and without knowing anything else about me. You said above that you view your TS friend as a woman, apparently you do not if you would see submitting to her as submitting to another male! My point being you can't really have it both ways! I don't doubt that's the way you justify it in your mind, but it seems rather hypocritical to me to differentiate between a woman and a "genetic woman"; especially if you don't plan to test every woman that you meet! But that's just one man's opinion, which doesn't make yours right or wrong, only different than mine. - pixel
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