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Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 2:14:32 AM   
useandabusemeplz


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Status: offline 		A true and real Dominant Female can easily control everything that there is about a true and real submissive/slave man, that includes his wallet. She has his heart and soul, of course the wallet will follow. Having said that, all these financial dommes must not be real. Sometimes the obvious can be so profound, riddle me this batman.
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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 4:29:25 AM   
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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 4:41:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		<laffin> yeah..the point is..he wants to see who agrees so he can email them perhaps with an eye towards use?

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 6:11:25 AM   
LadyJulieAnn


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Status: offline 		I like leather, but controlling a small, rectangular piece of it really doesn't do much for me...

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 6:11:48 AM   
BlkTallFullfig


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Status: offline 		I agree (that a dominant dominates, and a submissive submits), but what is your point?
You can't determine someone is "not real/true" just because you don't share his/her kink; or did you skip that in how to be a good sub big book?    M

< Message edited by BlkTallFullfig -- 12/29/2006 6:16:09 AM >

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 7:32:16 AM   
TexasMaam


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Status: offline 		Bah.  Such Generalization!

A 'True Domina' does not always have a sub's heart and soul.  Sometimes all She 'has' is his crippling, craving need to submit to someone.

If a Pro Domina wants to charge a fellow for the service She provides to meet those cravings, 'More Power To Her' (heh heh heh that was punny).

If a sub doesn't want to pay a Pro, he can continue to search for a Non Pro Domina who might someday make the 24/7 life partner they both hope for.

Owning a true submissive's heart and soul is a rare and precious thing.

A wallet is just a wallet.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 7:35:01 AM   
Stephann


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Status: offline 		M - I can, and do.  It's one thing to determine, judge, or feel someone is XYZ.  I don't necessarily feel my kinks are better, but everyone makes judgements about who is serious, who is not, who is worth obeying, and who's fishing for dollars.

I'm all for peace and harmony and tolerance but I also support people's right to call a spade a spade - as he is doing to 'money dommes', as you are doing with him, as I am doing with you. 

But redsavage seems to be on the right track to the whole 'point' of this.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 7:36:37 AM   
Lorelei115


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quote:

ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

Bah. Such Generalization!

A 'True Domina' does not always have a sub's heart and soul. Sometimes all She 'has' is his crippling, craving need to submit to someone.

If a Pro Domina wants to charge a fellow for the service She provides to meet those cravings, 'More Power To Her' (heh heh heh that was punny).

If a sub doesn't want to pay a Pro, he can continue to search for a Non Pro Domina who might someday make the 24/7 life partner they both hope for.

Owning a true submissive's heart and soul is a rare and precious thing.

A wallet is just a wallet.

TexasMaam








Bravo!! I agree with you 100%. I especially like the line "A wallet is just a wallet."

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

M - I can, and do. It's one thing to determine, judge, or feel someone is XYZ. I don't necessarily feel my kinks are better, but everyone makes judgements about who is serious, who is not, who is worth obeying, and who's fishing for dollars.


The point she was getting at, I think, is that you cannot determine who is true or not true SOLELY on whether they share your kink or not. As an example: I happen to not like age play. Does that make me any less real or serious? Of course, you CAN judge someone any way you like... but its been my experience that its certainly not a GOOD way to judge.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 8:55:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Quite right.  I don't suggest that a person is the grand sum of their kinks.  In fact, I don't usually judge anyone one way or the other based on how they represent themselves online.  The opening poster seems to be frustrated with his search (understandably - I'm pretty darned glad I'm not a semi-wealthy male submissive looking online for a female dominant, as I think I'd end up a nutcase.)  His post doesn't distinguish him from the hundreds (dare I say thousands?) of other male submissives in the same boat.  It's a bit like watching a die hard Religious Ultra-Conservative Republican and die hard Athiest Ultra-Liberal Democrat going rounds.  Neither has much in common, neither willing to discuss a situation with an open mind, both ending up hating the other.

So, I'll venture something more constructive.  Useandabuse: while no expert, I've found that attracting a woman has nothing to do with either your wallet or your submission anymore than a rich, ultra-submissive, kink oriented slave would have really no appeal for me as a male dominant.  Focuse on meeting women, and engaging them in whatever (non-kink related) aspects of your life, such as your interests in music, cooking,  skiing.  Most of the people online aren't going to be looking for the same thing as you.  Reading these forums is a great way to identify people who share your interests.  Doing a search based on your favorite activities (i.e. Beatles, skiing colorado, etc) might be a start.  You could also branch off into non-BDSM related sites, i.e. normal personals sites.  You could suggest something subtle in your profile such as 'I enjoy D/s' or 'I believe in female domination' as well.  Obviously, it takes a bit of work and patience to introduce someone vanilla to the lifestyle, but you'll have much better chances finding happiness with a woman when she shares your personal interests - adults tend to enjoy similar kinks with adults when a loving relationship has already been established.

In short, focus on the mind, and the rest should come just fine.  My apologies for making short work on a topic that I've had frustrate me endlessly in the past.


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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 9:00:59 AM   
slavemaia


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ORIGINAL: useandabusemeplz

A true and real Dominant Female can easily control everything that there is about a true and real submissive/slave man, that includes his wallet. She has his heart and soul, of course the wallet will follow. Having said that, all these financial dommes must not be real. Sometimes the obvious can be so profound, riddle me this batman.


OY - here we go with the true and real again! i gave Master a new leather wallet for Christmas does that count? He already has my heart and soul. <walking away shaking her head and pondering> am i a true and real slave? Oh Master????

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 9:03:26 AM   
pinkkeith


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ORIGINAL: RedSavageSlave

<laffin> yeah..the point is..he wants to see who agrees so he can email them perhaps with an eye towards use?


**sigh** You might be correct. This seems like another post from someone who was hurt by someone else and is trying to over generalize that all FemDoms are this way or that way.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 9:07:38 AM   
MsLayla


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Status: offline 		I don't get this "he or she is not real".
What is real to one is maybe not real to someone else.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 9:43:38 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		You are overlooking the fact that many simply work on fetishes, not on relationships. Financial domination is a valid fetish. Many do not like it, as many do not like scat play. But, there are those who do. SImply move on if someone wants this and you do not.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 11:26:39 AM   
useandabusemeplz


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Status: offline 		This post had nothing to do with Professional Dominants. I love them actually. It had to do with those that are only looking for money and that is it. I think that those trying to get money for nothing have put a real dark cloud over many true Female Dominants, professional or not.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/29/2006 9:27:24 PM   
BlkTallFullfig


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ORIGINAL: useandabusemeplz
This post had nothing to do with Professional Dominants. I love them actually. It had to do with those that are only looking for money and that is it. I think that those trying to get money for nothing have put a real dark cloud over many true Female Dominants, professional or not.
No one has put a dark cloud over me as a fem dominant and the woman I am.   Every person is different and we all have our reasons for being attracted to someone.   Money=power oftentimes, so it makes a great deal of sense that a dominant would want to see if you would relinquish control of your wallet, since it's so easy to get yall to drop your pants or onto your knees, LOL...

I'm sorry you are attracted to women who want only your money and not you, but try and take Stephan's advice and get to know women as just that, and you will find more substance to go with the domination you seek.    

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Stephann
but I also support people's right to call a spade a spade - as he is doing to 'money dommes', as you are doing with him, as I am doing with you. 
I'm not entirely against being judgemental (I might have been once or twice in my lifetime ) and calling BS when one sees it;   the point is that  useandabusemeplz was making generalizations about the realness of dominants based on the presence or absence of one non shared kink, and that doesn't exactly follow...  M

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/30/2006 1:14:38 AM   
useandabusemeplz


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Status: offline 		When you say I was making gemeralizations about dominants, the word dominants in your statement is encompassing all of them in general. That I was not doing, I was separating the phonies. That's it. For pete's sake, I have loved and adored real dominant females since I was 20 - I am now 43, I was married to a Professional Dominant and had a loving relationship with another. I thought that the original post was clear but I guess not. I don't judge others or say it is wrong. But I do remember the day when most professional dominants were true dominants, those days are gone, that to me is sad. Good luck to all of you.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/30/2006 1:34:18 AM   
GoddessGreed


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Status: offline 		How can anybody say what is right and not right, real and not real, surely a female dominant will practise what is right for only Herself, which makes the right/real a matter of personal choice.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/30/2006 1:51:18 AM   
cyberdude611


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ORIGINAL: GoddessGreed

How can anybody say what is right and not right, real and not real, surely a female dominant will practise what is right for only Herself, which makes the right/real a matter of personal choice.


I think it is more beyond that. If you look around you will find more than a few profiles that start out saying something like, "if you can't spoile me, don't bother e-mail..." or something like that. When I personally see that, one thing enters my mind...she's a fraud (if she's even really a woman). It an immediate signal to all that to her, it is all about money and nothing else.

Also notice how this seems to be exclusive to female dominants. You don't see male dominants ever demanding monetary gifts from their female subs.

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/30/2006 2:08:16 AM   
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IAlso notice how this seems to be exclusive to female dominants. You don't see male dominants ever demanding monetary gifts from their female subs.


No because women wouldnt pay lol
( dam how do you do that bloody quote thing!)

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RE: Female Dominants - 12/30/2006 2:27:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Goddess Greed, you are right women would not pay, is that in itself not a proponent of Female Superiority. Life is good.

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