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sissymaidlola -> RE: new chastity option (3/5/2005 8:05:25 PM)
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Thank you for the conversation. I'm enjoying it :)
[:o]Dear Ms Cameron,
Thank You once again for Your reply, Ma'am. sissy Is also enjoying this conversation because You have caused him to think about a completely new chastity scenario that had not occurred to him before (or, at least, had not distinguished it self as significantly different from the other two). Let sissy give You some background here, Ma'am. This is not the first time sissy has run this poll, but the third. The first time he ran it the wording of the first two options was skewed more to the type of chastity device that should be used - e.g. a lockable penis tube such as the CB3000 for option (a) versus something more robust, such as a Tollyboy chastity belt, for the longer term confinement required by option (b). This was where sissy's interest lay at the time, and it was thinking about the merits of various chastity devices WRT how long they could be worn without requiring removal for sanitary maintenance purpose, whether they permitted erections while being worn, and whether they were robust enough to withstand some pretty desperate attempts at removal from someone that had been kept chaste a long time, etc. that caused him to come up with the poll in the first place.
The second time sissy ran the poll, based on feedback from conversations like this one that he had with the poll participants, he changed the emphasis of the first two options to reflect the different goals of the duration of actual chastity achieved versus the two different cycles of confinement and release used to attain them. He also added in something on the submissive's psychology WRT all three options. Once again, based on feedback from conversations like this one that he had with the second poll participants, this time out sissy wanted to explore further the psychological aspect of the three options. What intrigues sissy about what You reported You are doing with Your submissive, Ma'am, is not so much the mechanisms of the chastity control - which, at a pinch, can be mapped to either option (a) or option (b) - but the psychology of it for the submissive male. Your scenario, Ma'am, encompasses an unique submissive psychology that, given sissy's current focus and interest in that area, makes him consider it a new chastity option.
To run a poll and encourage people to participate in it, one has to keep the option descriptions fairly simple otherwise folk lose interest and don't vote. Yet behind this poll there exists a much more complex "profile" that addresses each of the different aspects of the chastity process that differentiate the three options. sissy Has now added a new fourth option profile for Your particular scenario. If You are interested, sissy can PM You a copy of it. Note that one of the common misapprehensions that people have WRT the three chastity options currently presented in the poll (if one can call castration a form of chastity) is that they differ in duration of chastity control. But that is not the case. All three of the poll options address only PERMANENT chastity control - they differ, however, in how they go about achieving that permanent control. The different duration of chastity addressed by the three poll options - viz. (a) short term, (b) long term, and (c) permanent - represents only a single aspect of each of the three control options.
Although, on the surface, the scenario where a guy buys himself a chastity tube and continually locks himself up for three days at a time would appear to be exactly the same as option (a), it really is nothing of the sort. Even if the chastity device used and confinement-release cycles are all the same, the psychological dynamics involved in the two scenarios are very, very different. And despite the fact that orgasm and erection denial have very tangible physical effects on the male involved, nevertheless, chastity play is ultimately all about the mind control exerted by the Keyholder over Her charge, rather than the body control. But sissy is quite sure he doesn't have to explain this to You, Ma'am, since You are currently enjoying the fruits of exercising that mind and body control.
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As I read this I realized I do not bargain submission or service for sexual release. He is in chastity because it pleases me. There's something about rewarding release for service that bothers me. If I allow him release, it's because I feel like it, it would please me not because he has done an exceptional job of shaving my legs which he should have done so in the first place. Not as a means to an end.
Aha, there are two perspectives involved here, Ma'am. There is what You, as Keyholder, actually do to Your submissive in this option, Ma'am, and then there is what he perceives You are doing to him. To best explain that, let sissy quote from the profile for option (a):
Submissive Psychological Attitude: He believes that he can ultimately influence his fate by working harder and being more obedient and servile. Whether this, indeed, has any influence at all on his Mistress and Her actions is entirely another matter. Mistress can cultivate this belief and use it to Her advantage - both as a control tool and for Her own amusement. Obviously, fairly frequent orgasm release rewards have to be granted in order to maintain this "mindf**k" - otherwise the despondency and resignation of options (d) through (f) could set in. However, if release is only permitted in forms that are extremely degrading and humiliating for the submissive, such that they subliminally reinforce the submissive's true status and predicament, they can be used to further control the submissive and push him deeper into his subservience to his Mistress, while all the while the submissive brings on his own deeper subjugation by regarding these reinforcing activities as rewards and doing everything he possibly can to try and ensure that they occur as frequently as possible! Any orgasm that the submissive is permitted will only reinforce his desire to achieve it again and make him constantly aware of what he is being deprived of when orgasm is not granted. There exists a very powerful sexual tension between Mistress and submissive with this option.
For the record, option (b) is Your chastity control scenario, Ma'am, option (c) is the current poll option (b), and options (d) - (f) are respectively: castration only, penectomy only, and castration with penectomy. And it is a basic assumption of options (a) through (c) that male organ confinement ALWAYS prevents full erections ... these can only be obtained by the submissive during confinement release periods. This assumption unfortunately rules out the use of certain chastity devices for the first three options that are otherwise exemplary. The denial / suppression of erections has an even more devastating potential for the total control of the male that even simple orgasm control does, yet this facet of male organ confinement is usually totally overlooked by those that fantasize about chastity control. This represents yet another one of the chastity control aspects defined in the option profiles. The full list of aspects is as follows:
Duration of Chastity Control
Duration of Each Confinement
Duration of Non-Confinement
Duration of Chastity
Frequency of Full Erections
Method of Orgasm Release
Submissive Psychological Attitude
Submissive Health Maintenance
Chastity Device Most Applicable
Option (a) was initially envisioned by sissy to provide a permanent chastity control scenario that he might himself be prepared to sign up for in a lifestyle D/s relationship with a loving Domme. Based on his own experiments in this area, sissy could never see himself foregoing orgasm of some kind for more than a few days at a time, so he wanted an option that would provide Her with permanent chastity control over him that would also meet the frequent orgasm criterion. The other two poll options are scenarios that sissy wouldn't even start to consider. The new scenario You implement with Your own sub is also too severe for sissy, Ma'am. The dynamic tension of potential reward and punishment involved with option (a) also appealed to sissy. Option (a) could be used as a major behavior modifier with sissy ... if he screwed up, it would only require just a single look or word from Mistress to let him know that the next orgasm that he was looking forward to had just evaporated as a result of his carelessness or oversight.
The thought of a Mistress having that level of control over his happiness, and being able to execute that power with such consummate ease (with, say, just the raising of Her eyebrows in a certain way) sissy finds very exhilarating, to say the least. The idea of using his chastity as the ultimate incentive or punishment in the never-ending conditioning of his personality to meet his Mistress' goals fits very nicely with the whole "maid training" concept that goes along with the sissy maid fantasy. It would be expected that the Domme in such a scenario - viz. a loving D/s relationship - would not Sadistically abuse Her privileges and power granted by option (a), but would equally reward him (when merited) as well as punish him, and sissy would, in fact, have some potential control (from the bottom) over his own situation by always being on his best behavior. sissy Does not consider that situation as "topping from the bottom" but rather as more of a case of "learning his lessons and performing his assigned duties well." The kind of Domme that sissy seeks is one that would be into sensual D/s - sissy is not a masochist or pain slut, and consequently not into pain - and clearly the actions of the Domme just described would fit that description.
But You sound like You might be more of a Sadist, Ma'am, and rather than the great behavior modification possibilities of this option appealing to You, it would be the knowledge that Your submissive was squirming out of the frustration of the whole situation, and not to mention also in some physical discomfort at being denied full erection and/or orgasm for the nth consecutive release from confinement. LOL But with a little bit of tweaking, sissy was able to change option (a) so that it can also be used in an S&M fashion like the other five options (b) through (f) as described above. By turning the whole reward-punishment thing into one delicious mindf**k, the whole scenario can be used quite sadistically against the submissive. In either case, the full dynamic possibilities of option (a) - versus the other five options - are retained, and it can be used in both a nurturing D/s context as well as a pernicious S&M one too!
One final note WRT submissive health maintenance. There is a medically established connection between the instance of male prostrate cancer and low frequency of ejaculation. It is not the ejaculation that is important, but the fluid (sperm) release. For option (a), where orgasm release is intended to happen fairly frequently, and even a really naughty sissy might only go a maximum of a few weeks without orgasm, finding an alternative method of releasing this fluid is not too important. However, regular anal prostrate milkings become imperative in option (b) in the current poll, as well as the option that describes Your own scenario, Ma'am, where the submissive may go for months on end without orgasm release (i.e., being chaste). You made no mention of prostrate milkings in Your prior posts on this topic, Ma'am, but if You are not doing them You are putting Your submissive's health at some potential risk, and sissy just wanted to make You aware of this situation.
Respectfrilly Yours,
sissy maid lola
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