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MLskajira -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 4:00:54 AM)

ok then Tikkiee,
 since this is all supposition anyway, lets say that He got the misinformation from another Master, that was upset with the slave for not sceneing with Him without her Master's permission and out of anger the other Master told her Master that He witnessed her acting out in a sexual way with someone else.
the punishment she recived was not from anything she had done (or not done) but because the other Master wanted her punished for turning Him down.
 how's that?



MLskajira -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 4:37:16 AM)

and daddysprop,
 although this girl acknowleges your right to be murdered by your Master, at His whim and in your reality,it makes this slave very happy that she no longer has to live your kind of reality.
 as she stated before, this girl was held against her will and used for the pleasures of others.
 it was not the same as what she is doing now, for one thing she has consented to this relationship. for another, she CAN end this relationship at any point and she has protection against serious harm. (her family is fully informed as to her choices in the way she lives).
 when she was in the clutches of the REAL flesh peddelers, every moment of every day, this girl was not sure if she would survive to see the next moment. she, personally, witnessed little girls murdered, and there was nothing she could do to stop it or change it.
 so until you have been forced to watch another die, just because some sick bastard thought it would be a fun way to teach lessons (and it worked, by the way). unless you have been held in your own filth and fed nothing but rice for months, forced to fight, sometimes until major damage has happened and cried yourself to sleep for a year because all you want is to see your family one more time before it is your turn to be the one the lesson is taught  with, then this girl must say that you do onot understand TRUE slavery.
 you have consented to let your Master do what He will with you, so in your dynamic, you are a TRUE slave.
 what this girl is speaking of is the illegal trafficking in human flesh.



Tikkiee -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 5:11:14 AM)

OK, let me see if I have this right.
 
The two in question have known each other for ...according to you...3 years;
 
they also love each other deeply...again according to you.
 
BUT, this master ( who has known his slave for 3 years ) chooses to punish his slave only on the information that he has received from an OUTSIDE source? And because they love and respect each other SO much, he chooses not to bring this up with his slave before administering the punishment?
 
Before I keep going, I just want to make sure that I have the fake scenario right. Or are we going to change it some more again first so that you can get the answer you feel is justified.



MLskajira -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 5:35:13 AM)

 how pissy Tikkiee,
 of course, everything in this story is "according to this girl" as she is the one makeing it up
 it sounds to this girl that you have some sort of issue with this subject.
has it happened to you?
do you not believe that P/people post on here with fake situations, just to see what answers they get?
 and this girl knows that sometimes P/people act before they question and if a P/person is under some distress anyway and hit with something they would find extremely upsetting they are quite likely to act on the "misinformation" before they even think to question the source, especially if they have viewed the source as reliable in the past.
by the way, this girl has NO desire to argue with anyone over a fictitional story. she will make it up as she goes along and if that upsets some people, well then, they dont have to read this post.



Tikkiee -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 5:39:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MLskajira

how pissy Tikkiee,
of course, everything in this story is "according to this girl" as she is the one makeing it up
it sounds to this girl that you have some sort of issue with this subject.
has it happened to you?
do you not believe that P/people post on here with fake situations, just to see what answers they get?
and this girl knows that sometimes P/people act before they question and if a P/person is under some distress anyway and hit with something they would find extremely upsetting they are quite likely to act on the "misinformation" before they even think to question the source, especially if they have viewed the source as reliable in the past.
by the way, this girl has NO desire to argue with anyone over a fictitional story. she will make it up as she goes along and if that upsets some people, well then, they dont have to read this post.


LMFAO
 
and you accuse ME of being pissy?
 
I was asking so that I was sure I had the story right....several times you have changed it because you did not like the answers you were receiving. I wanted to make sure I had it correct before I answered any further. However, in light of your 'this is my story, I can change it any way I please until I am justified" attitude, I think I will refrain.
 
and no, this has never happened to me. Unfortunately, I am a dangerous one when it comes to bottoming; I like the pain too much to want it to stop.



MLskajira -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 5:44:34 AM)

when she is asked to elabotate on an aspect of the story she is telling, then she does, off the cuff.
 this girl does not care how others see either the slave or the Master.
 justified in what?
since this is fiction, how can anything said on here justify anything in her life?
HELLO PEOPLE!!!!!!
this is FICTION!



Tikkiee -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 5:47:07 AM)

If it is fiction, why are you getting so upset about it?
 
[8|]



MLskajira -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 5:53:47 AM)

hehehe that's a good one Tick,
sounds to this one as though it is YOU who are getting upset, so why dont we just drop it.... unless you have more questions about the who, why, where and how of the story and this girl will try to give you a scenario that will make you happy and justfy your way of thinking.... o.k.?



xBullx -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:04:56 AM)

Hello Girls,

Anyone need a binding and thrashing this morning? How about it girls......?

Don't make me force you two into a hug,

Bull



Tikkiee -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:06:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: xBullx

Hello Girls,

Anyone need a binding and thrashing this morning? How about it girls......?

Don't make me force you two into a hug,

Bull

LOL Master can I have the thrashing please?
 
[:D]



xBullx -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:09:15 AM)

why yes, yes you can..... now behave and say something nice.



BeingChewsie -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:10:28 AM)

I think it a bunch of made-up online drama that doesn't happen in real life. 

If it did occur, I think she should take her lumps and get a better class of friends.


quote:

ORIGINAL: MLskajira

ok then Tikkiee,
since this is all supposition anyway, lets say that He got the misinformation from another Master, that was upset with the slave for not sceneing with Him without her Master's permission and out of anger the other Master told her Master that He witnessed her acting out in a sexual way with someone else.
the punishment she recived was not from anything she had done (or not done) but because the other Master wanted her punished for turning Him down.
how's that?




MLskajira -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:12:28 AM)

this girl loves hugs, forced or not, so go ahead and force her ( she likes that too)



Tikkiee -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:16:14 AM)

/sigh
 
I really do apologize Mlskajira, I was looking for a bitch session and you were the closest target.
 
in regards to the thread...I still say that she has no right to threaten to call the police; no matter how 'hard' he is punishing her. Take it, talk it over after, and if she can't live with it, walk out the door.



xBullx -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:21:24 AM)

good girl cass.....I may even allow you to sit on my lap



MLskajira -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:40:43 AM)

not a problem Tikkiee.
 and BeingChewsie, this girl made no secret that this IS "a bunch of made up on line drama" she posted it just to see what kind of responses she would get.
 and, although she is learning much, she still doesnt understand the stance of some, that because she submitted to her Master, she MUST allow Him to do damage to her.
 IF this situation ever happened to HER, she would definately threaten to call the cops, and if that didnt get Him off of her, then she WOULD call the cops. it doesnt mean that this girl would not respect and love her Master, nor would it mean that she would no longer desire to be His slave, all it means is that she is doing her job as His slave in that she is handeling "damage control" as she was instructed was her responsibility from the very beginning of O/our relationship.
 but that is only how THIS GIRL would react to this situation, she is fully aware that not everyone would react in the same way.
 she is also aware that some Masters and slaves alike, believe that it would be the ultimate beytrayal.... but this girl asks, isnt it a betrayal for the Master, who's pet loves and obeys Him in all things, to harm His pet on the word of a disgruntaled and rejected suitor without first attempting to find out the truth?



Leonidas -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 6:48:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

MzMia, speaking for myself only, there is no time where i would use safewords or alert some outside authorities because those things are simply not permitted in my relationship. my Master has the right to do with me what he wills and i fully understood that when i agreed to become his property. as MLskajira put it, i would not "lift a finger" to save my own life because in my case that would be going against what my Master wants and demands.



daddysprop,

I have read this and other of your posts in this thread, you may have read mine too.  I think you might recognize that I understand what you're talking about, and I hope that you take what I'm about to say in the spirit that I'm offering it.  Unless you are making posts like this as a subtle cry for help so that people will involve the authorities and come rescue you, you need to stop making them.  If you are trying to cry for help, this isn't the place to do it.  Dial 911.

You are indulging in a behavior that is commonly referred to as "scaring the villagers".  It can feel really good, I'm sure, to let everyone know the depth to which your submission to your daddy reaches, but you need to understand that when you describe it in terms like these there are going to be some folks who think you're being brainwashed and abused.  If you scare the villagers sufficiently, they will grab pitchforks and torches and come looking for you.  While I'm sure your daddy is doing nothing wrong, the nature of our legal system is that it could be really costly to him in many ways to prove that if authorities get involved.

Not having the will to leave your daddy and being held against your will is not the same thing.  Holding you in the bonds of submission so deep that you don't believe that you can leave is not the same as restraining you physically or with threats of harm to you or or others you care about if you are expressing your desire to go.  The former is not illegal (though it probably scares the shit out of some of the folks reading along here, and meets one of their criteria for an "abusive relationship").  The latter is.  You have left enough ambiguity in your posts that someone who is looking for a pattern of abuse or illegal activities might not be sure which circumstance applies to your situation.

I know that arguing for the validity of your way of life feels good.  I'm sure it also feels good to express just how deeply you are submitted to your daddy.  You need to always be cognizant though that your words in public always have the possiblity of being misunderstood, and serve your daddy by being vary careful not to give the wrong impression, even if that means not saying some things that you'd like to say, or that might feel very good to say.



rascallymisty -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 7:12:42 AM)

I do not post on these boards for my own reasons, but I spend a great deal of time reading them. I have to tell You  Leonidas Sir that was a wonderful post and You have said it better than most have tried to say it.   ~misty~



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 7:15:58 AM)

Mls-

These are the relevant parts of the story-

They have been in a secure, committed, and loving relationship for years.

During that time, never once has he committed an act which she would deem inappropriate in terms of scening without control.

At THIS particular moment in the punishment, she either feels ok with the situation or she feels scared and like it seriously needs to stop.  

We can change anything else around inthe scenario, but to me that's pretty much what's relevant.  As long as we don't change those factors, my previous answers will apply.



BeingChewsie -> RE: going too far (1/8/2007 7:40:31 AM)

I haven't seen anybody say that *you* must do anything. I have seen people say what the expectation and/or requirements are in their own dynamic. It is not the same thing.

You should do whatever feels right for you. If it is dialing 911, then that is what it is.

Nobody has said it would be wrong for -you- to do that.


quote:

ORIGINAL: MLskajira

not a problem Tikkiee.
and BeingChewsie, this girl made no secret that this IS "a bunch of made up on line drama" she posted it just to see what kind of responses she would get.
and, although she is learning much, she still doesnt understand the stance of some, that because she submitted to her Master, she MUST allow Him to do damage to her.
IF this situation ever happened to HER, she would definately threaten to call the cops, and if that didnt get Him off of her, then she WOULD call the cops. it doesnt mean that this girl would not respect and love her Master, nor would it mean that she would no longer desire to be His slave, all it means is that she is doing her job as His slave in that she is handeling "damage control" as she was instructed was her responsibility from the very beginning of O/our relationship.
but that is only how THIS GIRL would react to this situation, she is fully aware that not everyone would react in the same way.
she is also aware that some Masters and slaves alike, believe that it would be the ultimate beytrayal.... but this girl asks, isnt it a betrayal for the Master, who's pet loves and obeys Him in all things, to harm His pet on the word of a disgruntaled and rejected suitor without first attempting to find out the truth?




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