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Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 10:32:43 AM   
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Today is the 1st day of 2007.  It is the time of year that most people are looking back at the prior or previous years of their lives, and trying to make improvements in the New Year. 
A girl friend called me last night and said she made a list of the qualities she was looking for in a mate.  She was mad because her mother told her she might not be able to find all those qualities in one man.  I chuckled and I told her I might have to start changing some of the qualities that I have been seeking.
I am sitting here wondering about the criteria I have been using to screen and selective a submissive.  I look for traits such as: honesty, sincerity, trustworthiness, compatibility, and just someone I want to spend a lot of time with.  I need someone willing to put in the TIME, to get to know me as a PERSON prior to any form of D/s.
Okay, here is the hard part.   I feel I have a problem being too judgmental about a potentials past relationships.  I have walked away from a lot of men that might have been good submissive because I had issues with their last relationships, or other issues in their REAL life. 
I have just begun talking to a new submissive recently.   He has been very attentive, answers difficult questions and has almost been honest to a fault.  So far, he is living up to my initial getting to know you expectations. 
He was honest about his last major relationship.  He actually told me things, most men would probably never tell a potential partner.   This turned me off {as usual} and I have been trying to run away as I always do.  He is not having it, LOL.  He seems to be hanging in here and willing to work on a potential friendship.  He is being kind and attentive and not at all pushy, and willing to ALLOW me to set the pace.
I am tired of not having the submissive companionship that I want, and I am not ashamed to admit it.  I have actually been praying to be more understanding, and not so critical.  Am I just too damn picky?   I really like this man; so far he is meeting all the expectations that I have for someone I meet online.  It has been a long time that I have been so attracted to anyone that has approached me online. 
I am determined to not sabotage this relationship, I am TRYING to relax and see where it goes.
There is such a thing as being to picky, paranoid and critical.
Does anyone else here have a problem with just being too damn picky, I mean about small things?  What do you plan to do about this in 2007?
I know what I plan to do about it.
I am going to not use this man’s honesty against him, and continue to get to know him.
And see where it goes.  Wish me/us luck. 

***Ready for 2007***

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 11:30:14 AM   
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Dear MzMia, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Yes, I admit I am too picky!  But, I also know that if I compromise to much, I will not be happy.  So, it is a matter of being happier alone then be with some male so-so slave/submissive.  Having had slaves, it isn't like I'm so picky I cancel any approaches out but, I do have high standards.

And, I will also add--slaves are picky also.  So, its across board issue of getting what we want.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 11:47:06 AM   
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I have a lot of mixed feelings about some of the content of what you have written, so it would simply be safe to address the question itself.

How I have handled my own recent pickiness is to take it to a different and completely unexpected level.

In the past, I wasn't picky in the least, and I have come to realize that I have lost a lot of years because of it.  So, I decided I would be picky for a change.

Now, in realizing how I have become picky, I have decided that in fairness to others' pickiness, that it is actually I who am completely undesireable and wouldn't thrust myself on anyone else to save THEIR life.

That's picky.  And controlling, but that's another subject for another OP.

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 12:09:01 PM   
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Perhaps I am very picky. I prefer to call it cautious. The choices I make affect more people than just myself. I am cautious not just for me and those already in my life, but also for anyone that I may consider bringing into my life. I need to think how anyone new will fit into my world. It is far more than just chemistry between the two of us but wether or not they will be happy when it is not just the two of us.

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 12:22:03 PM   
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Why is the skit "Lowered Expectations" from MAD TV coming to mind when I read this subject line? :)

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 12:23:06 PM   
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 Happy New Year!
Thank you all for sharing, this topic is important to me.
 
LadyHugs, you are so insightful and classy.
Could we agree that compromising and being picky are often
at different ends of the spectrum?
LOL I agree that many submissive/slaves are picky.

Often, they are picker then we are!!!!!
 
Jeff, I agree I am controlling.
I also tell potentials I am VERY controlling so they can deal with
it or get to stepping.
If you dont want to be controlled and I can't control you, then I don't need you.

 I am Damn Controlling and Dominant and loving being that way
 
LaT! I understand being cautious!
I am very careful about who I bring into my life RT.

You are wise as well as charming.
 
***2007? Bring it on!***

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 12:27:11 PM   
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quote:

Does anyone else here have a problem with just being too damn picky, I mean about small things?  What do you plan to do about this in 2007?

 
I don't think of it as being picky, I am however particular about certain attributes I'm looking for in a s/o. Like Lady Hugs I know from experience that if I compromise or lower those standards I won't be happy. For me, I would rather continue to have the high standards in place and keep searching than lower them and be unhappy. I know that the cuck/sub for Me is out there and will have the attributes I feel are important.

Good luck!

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 12:33:10 PM   
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In my humblest of opinions a Woman who is picky demonstrates high standards. And what dominant Woman shouldn't have high stanards?! :) It is up to the male to prove himself worthy of Her high expectations... i'm still learning.


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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 12:39:51 PM   
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Thanks for posting!!
Let me clarify what I meant about being "too picky".

I am in NO means lowering my standards, I am saying
that some of us {myself included} are VERY picky and
particular and it has NOTHING to do with lowering our standards.
As I mentioned, I was holding something against this gentlemen
that he did a few years ago.  That is just being judgemental, what
he did was not illegal or even a bad thing...that is what I meant
about being...too picky.
Being judgemental and picky does not mean you are lowering your
standards.
I don't plan to lower my standards, I am just working on being a
nit picker.

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 1:08:28 PM   
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I think it's very necessary.  I am only seeking in a slave what anyone would seek in a mate, such as love, honesty, loyalty, etc.   so I don't think I'm asking for all that much.  Trust me, I've tried to settle...telling myself things like, "well God sent me this person, so I just need to work at it"   that just doesn't hold up.  Also, as others have stated, it's a major waste of time and you're going to constantly be unhappy, because it's not what you want or need in your life.

Congrats on your guy...that is the kind of man I seek, one who knows how the world is and allows for it.   He knows that everyone, especially people online have been through their fair share and he is willing to fight to let you know he's not just one of the "net boys" that seem to float into all of our mailboxes.   And the biggie...he's talking to you as a person, a woman, not as a Domme.  He wants to know you and is allowing you to know about him, not just asking a bunch of bdsm questions, and wanting scenarios.  That is one thing I have not been able to find on here...and starting to lose hope that I ever will.

It  does give me some hope,....sigh....... so I guess I'll continue to weed through all the ones that want me to instantly be in love on the first email, or want me to jump in the car and meet them on the first eamil, and then call me a fake when I don't comply to their "wishes"...LOL

Good luck on your new relationship...

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 1:53:44 PM   
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Questions that came to mind upon reading this thread:

As time progresses, are more and more of us (males and females alike) becoming neurotic, Seinfeld-like characters looking for "deal-breakers" in potential partners?

Do our personal lists of deal-breakers really need to be so long?

Are we sabotaging our potential relationships... whether on conscious or subconscious levels?

To explore the long-term potential of an interested partner, do we really need any more than adequate: chemistry, compatibility, and communication?  

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 2:03:27 PM   
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I finally had to walk away from my (now) ex Domme because she went and got a restraining order on me, sent me pipe bombs, cut the brake lines on my car, wrote messages like "Die, I fucking HATE your GUTS you piece of SHIT!!!! on my front lawn in gasoline and then lit it, plus she hung up on me everytime I called her.

I felt this last item was impeding communication, so I just had to part ways.

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 2:34:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

[I look for traits such as: honesty, sincerity, trustworthiness, compatibility, and just someone I want to spend a lot of time with.  I need someone willing to put in the TIME, to get to know me as a PERSON prior to any form of D/s.

Okay, here is the hard part.   I feel I have a problem being too judgmental about a potentials past relationships.  I have walked away from a lot of men that might have been good submissive because I had issues with their last relationships, or other issues in their REAL life.]

I would not say that in looking for the aforementioned traits that you are at all too picky.  But your pickiness plays in where you are holding a persons past against the way of the future.  In being judgmental we must carefully consider if we might have felt forced to make the same decisions in their shoes or perhaps an even worse choice.  So many people fail to take the whole picture into perspective as to how other people come to be in a situation or position.  As the saying goes, “But for the grace of God, there go I.”   As I read your post, his offense would not be held against him in most standard parameters of acceptance in determining the potential viability of a relationship.  If this is so, then I certainly hope you would find the grace to forgive.   I wish you much luck and love in your newfound relationship, but most of all I wish you continuation of the level of honesty that you have thus far experienced.  Solid is the relationship that is built on trust.

The Guiding Goddess

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 3:24:35 PM   
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I have been guilty of being too picky also.
It is easy to do, especially with so many fakes and flakes online.
At least you are aware of this, and working on it.
Good luck to you Mia

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 3:36:44 PM   
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Dear MzMia, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In the clarification of the "picky" thread, to where it is more of holding a past transgression that a gentleman did--will never be forgotten in my mind's eyes I see; as the 'intent' of the thread.
 
Like an elephant, if I witnessed an action, conduct, statements and or other things which made me judgmental in a negative manner; it is due to the internal measure or codes and or laws we (in general terms) judge people who come into our (in general sense) personal circle and if lucky, the intimate circle.  No matter what excuses or double speak that we (in general) proffer as to give a person another chance or having second thoughts on; will backfire later as the first impressions are the most lasting.  When there is an argument or when things get ugly--history will be stirred up again and used as a weapon.
 
Character, compatibility and other traits are what are some of the ingredients to which we (in general) build upon in regard to communication, negotiation and or relationships.
 
What is troublesome for those who follow; are those who are judged based upon what another did as to 'scar' the person.  We all have had people who have given us scars as far as honor, trust and other qualities we're seeking in our relationships.  That said, they are "our" scars.  We can hide them, mask them through many techniques however the injury, the harm, the hurt and the constant reminders of what such scars have done--never go away but, are managed by the person who carries such scars.
 
When individuals carry scars that make them cynical, it is because a repeated manifestation has demonstrated to our mind's eyes; that something or quality of men or women, and or [insert traits, behavior, character, habits, etc.]; has created a 'ouch' reaction and a strong avoidance to having such repeated. 
 
Only when a person who comes into the view of our judgment and what is used as the 'scales' of judgment, standards, laws and our codes of what will be tolerated or not; who is proffered our (in general sense) scars can understand the roots of them and avoid offending or reopen the wounds that have blemished our levels of trust, joy and or whatever areas where scars cover.  Some may see it as baggage.  However you look at it--the person who enters another person's life, will have to make sure they do not pick and expose the scars but, avoid those areas as to continue healing and or deminish the impact they created in the first place.  This calls for an understanding partner indeed.
 
Again, nobody is a mind reader and communication as to why we (in general sense) are picky/cynical; the other person must decide to either deal with it or move on.  Anybody looking for a partner will not find perfection, even if a person is a perfectionist.  In my mind's eyes I see if somebody fits 80% of what I seek I'll be blessed, as I can work with the other 20%.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 6:18:50 PM   
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Not only Dommes, as I, a sub, can be too picky in regards to Dommes, and probably regarding relationships in general now, and that is not a good considering all of the potential Dommes or partners is limited already just because of who and how I am thanks to the universe and the one that created it. Yet, I am also more picky about online than I do in real life, mainly because real life is way easier to get a proper impressions, weed out the liars and fake, no chance of a Domme wanting online relationship, and so on.

-mellian

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 6:56:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHugs
Dear MzMia, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In the clarification of the "picky" thread, to where it is more of holding a past transgression that a gentleman did--will never be forgotten in my mind's eyes I see; as the 'intent' of the thread.
 
Like an elephant, if I witnessed an action, conduct, statements and or other things which made me judgmental in a negative manner; it is due to the internal measure or codes and or laws we (in general terms) judge people who come into our (in general sense) personal circle and if lucky, the intimate circle.  No matter what excuses or double speak that we (in general) proffer as to give a person another chance or having second thoughts on; will backfire later as the first impressions are the most lasting.  When there is an argument or when things get ugly--history will be stirred up again and used as a weapon.
 
Character, compatibility and other traits are what are some of the ingredients to which we (in general) build upon in regard to communication, negotiation and or relationships.
 
What is troublesome for those who follow; are those who are judged based upon what another did as to 'scar' the person.  We all have had people who have given us scars as far as honor, trust and other qualities we're seeking in our relationships.  That said, they are "our" scars.  We can hide them, mask them through many techniques however the injury, the harm, the hurt and the constant reminders of what such scars have done--never go away but, are managed by the person who carries such scars.
 
When individuals carry scars that make them cynical, it is because a repeated manifestation has demonstrated to our mind's eyes; that something or quality of men or women, and or [insert traits, behavior, character, habits, etc.]; has created a 'ouch' reaction and a strong avoidance to having such repeated. 
 
Only when a person who comes into the view of our judgment and what is used as the 'scales' of judgment, standards, laws and our codes of what will be tolerated or not; who is proffered our (in general sense) scars can understand the roots of them and avoid offending or reopen the wounds that have blemished our levels of trust, joy and or whatever areas where scars cover.  Some may see it as baggage.  However you look at it--the person who enters another person's life, will have to make sure they do not pick and expose the scars but, avoid those areas as to continue healing and or deminish the impact they created in the first place.  This calls for an understanding partner indeed.
 
Again, nobody is a mind reader and communication as to why we (in general sense) are picky/cynical; the other person must decide to either deal with it or move on.  Anybody looking for a partner will not find perfection, even if a person is a perfectionist.  In my mind's eyes I see if somebody fits 80% of what I seek I'll be blessed, as I can work with the other 20%.
 
Just some thoughts. 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs 


**Thank you LadyHugs** eloquently written as usual.
I especially love the 80% part....

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 6:57:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mellian

Not only Dommes, as I, a sub, can be too picky in regards to Dommes, and probably regarding relationships in general now, and that is not a good considering all of the potential Dommes or partners is limited already just because of who and how I am thanks to the universe and the one that created it. Yet, I am also more picky about online than I do in real life, mainly because real life is way easier to get a proper impressions, weed out the liars and fake, no chance of a Domme wanting online relationship, and so on.
-mellian


I agree mellian, it is not easy on either side of the fence,
no matter what some people say.
Hang in there!

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 7:19:07 PM   
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We all have certain traits we are looking for in a partner....be they Dom, Domme, sub or slave.  I have a whole laundry list of things I look for.  If that's being picky....then I'm picky.  But I will not accept anything less than that.  It will take me a longer time to find my "One True Sub/Slave" if there is such a thing, but I'm willing to wait for it.

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RE: Ladies? Are some of us just too damn picky? - 1/1/2007 7:46:58 PM   
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I agree.  We all look for certain traits in partners.  I don't think that's picky, but holding something against someone....something he did in a previous relationship...something he "confessed" to you?  Yeah, that might be a bit over the top.

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