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Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 12:46:14 AM   
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After reading the thread on ADHD (which I thought was eloquently written and a credit to its author) it occurred to me that embarking towards the path of subhood I may well have my own challenge.

In my early 20s I had a virus called Encephilitus.  I was in a coma for 6 weeks and it took me around 2 years before I was fully independent again. I would not say fully recovered as it has taken its toll in a few ways. I have an awfully bad short term memory and if over loaded with multi-tasking I get mental fatigue (basically exhaustion) which means a task can take a while to complete.

With these qualities in mind, I guess i'm going to have some stumbling blocks, which may not be desirable to a potential dom.  Should I reconsider my involvement and just enjoy the friends I have made that have become dear to me, or is there a level of tolerants that will allow for my problems?

This is a sincere question and I would appreciate any honest input.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 12:58:53 AM   
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Venusflames ..

First, welcome to the forums. :)

I'm a firm believer that there is someone out there for everyone. If you are open, honest and up front about your issues, the dominant who is right for you will appreciate the qualities you have which make you unique. Not one of us is perfect, but we can find partners who are perfect for us if we don't give up.

If you are willing to make an effort, take steps to help with your special circumstance (perhaps became a list maker, that sure helps me!) and most of all, just be yourself, you don't have to give up anything.. including D/s as a way to enjoy your life.

I wish you wellness and good health,

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 2:57:19 AM   
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Venusflames ..

Not one of us is perfect,


ah, that's where you are wrong...i am perfect in every way.  :)

but seriously, well said.  Venus, we all have issues and shortcomings.  If you are honest about it, which you are, any "dom" that would exclude you based on that, rather than getting to know you for you, is, well, not worth your service and devotion. 

stay the course, be proud.  best of luck to you.


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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 3:00:57 AM   
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I for one wouldn't have a problem with such issues, heck my memory is about as bad as they get :) As Bitatrouble says there is more than likely someone out there who is a great match for you, and I for one believe if there is a starting point of common ground there are an awful lot of problems can be worked around with plenty communication and understanding.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 3:16:58 AM   
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Thank you, it is reassuring to know.  I think as I got my degree and post grad years after the illness a lot of people are blissfully unaware of how hard it is for me to remember sometimes basic things.  I'm always losing things, or getting to the top of the stairs without any idea of why I went up there, or I think of something else and get side tracked.  I guess this is part of the reason why the sub life is attractive to me.  Keeping hold of lifes responsibilities is waring on a tired head, to share or even pass that responsibility on seems like bliss.  I am one of lifes givers and like to make people happy, even if I can be a bit opinionated lol.

Thanks again x

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 4:32:00 AM   
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I agree with what the other posters say.
There is someone out there for every one.
You're right in some will consider you a challenge and keep going.
Some consider me the same and kept going too and it had nothing to do with my health.
There is no right or wrong way, but only our own ways to be Doms or subs.
The key is finding the one on the same path as you and following him to your higher purpose.
If it's the desire of your heart and where you feel you belong go for it and achieve your dreams.
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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 7:37:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Venusflames

After reading the thread on ADHD (which I thought was eloquently written and a credit to its author) it occurred to me that embarking towards the path of subhood I may well have my own challenge.

In my early 20s I had a virus called Encephilitus. I was in a coma for 6 weeks and it took me around 2 years before I was fully independent again. I would not say fully recovered as it has taken its toll in a few ways. I have an awfully bad short term memory and if over loaded with multi-tasking I get mental fatigue (basically exhaustion) which means a task can take a while to complete.

With these qualities in mind, I guess i'm going to have some stumbling blocks, which may not be desirable to a potential dom. Should I reconsider my involvement and just enjoy the friends I have made that have become dear to me, or is there a level of tolerants that will allow for my problems?

This is a sincere question and I would appreciate any honest input.


All you can do is be honest about these health issues immediately.

Sure, lots of people will walk away and some may call you names; those aren't the right people for you so no big loss.

I'm betting sooner or later you will find someone you are compatible with. It may not be your fantasy relationship, in fact, I'd work on creating a realistic and substantiable relationship, but I think you can find someone.

Take Fox. He has some health issues and because I knew we had enough in common and his submission was sincere, I made adjustments. So now I know with his hearing issue I need to go to him more than call for him. I know that he can't kneel for very long, so he sits another way or stands. His blood sugar can drop so I make sure we have regular meals. He has a bad family of origin so I make sure he can talk to me and he has free time to prepare for any time he has with them and time after to readjust.

None of that interferes with him being my slave or serving me because my expectations are realistic in these regards.

No, I'm just suggesting his issues are yours but that you can find a dominant whose expectations can work with yours. You, too, must be certain your expectations are also realistic. It can be easy to think you are a bad slave if you can't do X for so long or in such a fashion.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 7:55:49 AM   
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Awww. ~smiling~ I think your question is very valid, but to me it is like asking "Is there a Dom out there for me because I have poor vision?" You overcame a great obstacle, obtained an advanced degree, and so it seems a moot point to me that you can't remember why you went up the stairs. (Moot because I do that ~all~ the time. ~chuckle chuckle~) Doms of substance want subs of substance, and that's what you seem to be.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 8:03:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Venusflames
With these qualities in mind, I guess i'm going to have some stumbling blocks, which may not be desirable to a potential dom.  Should I reconsider my involvement and just enjoy the friends I have made that have become dear to me, or is there a level of tolerants that will allow for my problems?



Believe me, there are plenty of "special needs" subs out there. There are plenty of "special needs" doms too, as a matter of fact! ;) I know several subs who have the purest hearts you could ask for but physical/mental challenges keep them from always being able to do what they hypothetically "should." For example, one of my friends has a slave who we kid about having alzheimers (though he's in his 20s) cause his memory is so bad. Carrying around a notepad and pen and writing things down is a surefire cure for that. And if you can't remember to keep the pen on you, tie it to a string around your neck. I believe there is a solution to every problem out there. Not to be cliche, but where there's a will there's a way. Now, the most important thing IMO is to find a dom who wants you for who you are as a whole person and is willing to work with your special circumstances - as opposed to someone who could care less who the person serving is as long as the laundry gets done.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 8:55:18 AM   
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Thank you again for all your replies. It hadn't actually dawned to me that it might be a problem until I read some of the other threads and then it hit me like a light.  What if, i'm asked to do something and I can't get it done?  What if I forget?  My life has been for the last 10 years dedicaed to raising my son and working to provide him with security, perhaps a little harder than was wise under the circumstances and I do feel wiery, but then i've never let anyone into our lives or share the burden. I've built up a barrier of titanium around us both and if nothing else comes from this,  I want to learn to be able to trust someone so completely that I don't have to question.

ps Post it note, string & pen on order x

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 9:28:36 AM   
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I too have some cognitive problems, I have listed all my medical problems and the way I deal with them in my profile.  In my journals I have went into more detail.  Some who have contacted me stated they did not mind the problems as I had listed the ways I worked around them.  Others said it was just no big deal to them.  Some have said "Oh! didn't see that"  I always bring it up in first contact, and I never hear from them again.  It is just an induvidual thing, but I have found that the males of the BDSM life are more tolorant of med problems or disorders, than those outside its scope are.  Honesty is very important in this lifestyle.  To me this is kinda like a test.  Best of luck and go slow and beware of fakers and players.Unfortuatly i seem to run into other issues as deterents, such as  distance, my spiled son, my strong will,  


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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 9:33:45 AM   
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Oh Patina I can relate with you with regards to the last 3 for sure.  I may adjust my profile, balance  it out a little and create a whole image, rather than just the negative.  It does need to be said, but in context with all the achievements to.

Thank you for sharing your ideas with me x

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 10:20:56 AM   
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Awww. ~smiling~ I think your question is very valid, but to me it is like asking "Is there a Dom out there for me because I have poor vision?" You overcame a great obstacle, obtained an advanced degree, and so it seems a moot point to me that you can't remember why you went up the stairs. (Moot because I do that ~all~ the time. ~chuckle chuckle~) Doms of substance want subs of substance, and that's what you seem to be.


Very nicely put. To the OP - there is someone for you. At times I've wondered how I managed to find a dominant who is so very fond of me. I'm definately a submissive, but emotionally I'm rather high-maintance. I try my best not to be but I've also come to terms with it. It feels very "unsubbly" to need his support as much I do, but I also know that he loves me. I give my love and my service and he evidently finds something there that keeps him around for my emotional outbreaks and issues. There will be someone for you too.  

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 11:25:25 AM   
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I had a period in my life for about eight years, when I could not seem to remember much that I read, or sometimes viewed, or that had happened to me for up to a few months before the time period in which I was operating. It was sometimes very difficult to cope with emotionally, but I managed to cope with it practically by finding little tricks to use that worked for me as far as a "short term memory replacement" ; I left Post-It notes everywhere - in my purse, and in various rooms of my residence, reminding myself to do this or that, for instance. Memory loss was pretty discouraging to me, at times (especially, since I am a Mensa member, which I rarely tell anyone, but am saying it now because I want to convery I know this can be pretty difficult. And I think it's always harder if you are smart enough to know just how stupid you may be appearing. Especially if there is not much you can do about it).

I knew I was smarter than my actions sometimes reflected, and  in the way I was actually able to react to reading material, or street signs, or signs on highways, for instance. Or - to things I saw on television, or that I read in magazines or newspapers. And things people would say to me. People would tell me something important to themselves, as a friend, for instance - and two weeks later I couldn't remember what they had confided to me, or maybe their birthday, or sometimes even their name. This was usually embarrassing, and sometimes resulted in hurt feelings all around. Sometimes, I let them know why I had memory loss - more often, I did not. The effect was pretty pervasive, and I was terrified it would affect my job performance, so sometimes I just worked twice as hard, which helped.

However, I did meet someone eventually, with whom I felt comfortable opening up with as far as why I had memory loss, and they accepted it completely and didn't make it an issue in our relationship at all. My memory has since improved greatly (that period on my life was all over two decades ago). But - there are still some events, for instance, that other members of my family have very clear memories of - and even though I was with them when the said events took place, I no longer have any memory of them. This can sometimes bother me, but there isn't much to be done about it.

I do understand, I think, what this kind of situation can be like for some people. My solution at the time, as I said, was finding little "coping tricks" that worked (which I found via trial and error), and also being careful to whom I revealed the "why" of my memory loss. These things worked for me - and I did find there really are people out there who do understand. Good luck.

- Susan  

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 11:28:24 AM   
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Don't feel bad. My memory is deplorable, and I mean REALLY bad. I have notes all over my house reminding me of things that I should do, need to do, and have to do lol. In addition to that, my teenager often has to remind me to umm...read the notes

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 11:32:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Venusflames

What if, i'm asked to do something and I can't get it done?  What if I forget?  My life has been for the last 10 years dedicaed to raising my son and working to provide him with security, perhaps a little harder than was wise under the circumstances and I do feel wiery, but then i've never let anyone into our lives or share the burden. I've built up a barrier of titanium around us both and if nothing else comes from this,  I want to learn to be able to trust someone so completely that I don't have to question.


~smiling~ Your Dom will know your strengths and weaknesses already so do not fret about it. I wish you very good fortune in finding as dear a Man as the One who is teaching me.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 11:33:53 AM   
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I'm definately a submissive, but emotionally I'm rather high-maintance. I try my best not to be but I've also come to terms with it. It feels very "unsubbly" to need his support as much I do, but I also know that he loves me. I give my love and my service and he evidently finds something there that keeps him around for my emotional outbreaks and issues. There will be someone for you too.  


"Unsubbly" ... ~delighted chuckle~ Very very cute. (And it sounds like you have a perfect match, Aqua.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 6:17:24 PM   
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You sound wonderful, I hope you find a Dom that appreciates you.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 6:36:49 PM   
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Any Dom who is truely interested in you will need to have tolerance, or they are not worth your while.  There is no rule written in stone that a sub have specific talents, it is individual to the relationship.

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RE: Memory verses sub - 1/3/2007 7:23:33 PM   
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I'm very familiar with your symptoms Venus - I too have the same issues, though as time progresses it seems like some memories are better and others not.  My short-term is still pretty shot.

I think it has to do with my bout of Scarlet Fever when I was a child - same reason why I can't give blood - I think high fevers have an effect that hasn't yet been studied fully to understand how they might affect both short and long-term memories - even ones that have already been imprinted.

But I agree with everyone else - there is someone out there who's going to accept you for who you are, and whatever goes along with that, and work with it - and no doubt you'll find a peace you haven't known before when you find them, or they find you.

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