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gooddogbenji -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 6:10:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KittenInterruptd

"Properlly" has only one letter 'L'.  If you are going to author a post about spelling and grammar (which should have a lower case 'g' seeing as it isn't a proper noun, nor is it starting a sentence,) then you may want to consult a dictionary.


Yer missin some comas, deer.

Its a 2way streat.

Yers


benji




LadyIce -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 6:12:13 PM)

Too funny, criticizing others grammar and spelling and she can't spell.




Noah -> RE: Judging someone on line by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 6:16:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

I agree fully with my pet's previous post, but wanted to inject a little of my thought into this subject as well. I, like my pet, try to take into account language barriers and disabilities such as dyslexia. I do not think any less of these people when they make the effort to let others know of their disability.
 
But this thread is not about " other forms of intelligence ". It is not about being world wise as opposed to " book learned ". It is about the fact that the method of communication on the forums is written. And shifting the subject of this thread to build a straw man of intolerant bullies sneering at the less fortunate, then self-righteously attempting to chastise the people who have never presented or even conveyed such " insults " seems to me to be a hollow attempt to cripple the real issue.
 
People know that their writing skills will be their sole means of communication here. To claim that it is the literate members that are at fault for expressing distaste and exasperation toward those incapable of coherent writing is ridiculous. As this is the only way to communicate here, it only makes sense that most of us would express annoyance at the people who put no effort into making their thoughts clear in writing. Whether the person is " book learned " or " world wise ",  is irrelevant. If they are intelligent they have tools at their disposal to correct most of their writing problems.
 
 
 


DUDE! We'll do whatever you want.

Just let us off this " wheel " of quotation " mark " torture "!




bobjr957 -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 6:17:14 PM)

judging someone by their typing skills  is almost like judging the blind by the way they read braile, far to many  lack typing skills, look at me, im a retired air force pilot, and althought im only 50, look at how i ramble on




cjenny -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 6:29:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah


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ORIGINAL: cjenny

    Maybe I see it as using good manners? I would be turned off by someone chewing with their mouth open and wiping their face with their sleeve.

*edited to add the seemingly required IMO bit*


But of course the IMO bit is not required, least of all for a post like that one. You made it clear without any such clunky signage that you were stating an opinion, describing a personal preference. I value the ability and willingness to do that above grammatical excellence.

Fair play, though, if you don't like people wiping slobber on their sleeves you oughta do something about that avatar picture. I take it you aren't so offended by moist corners on bedspreads.

Edited to add: ... and that profile picture, too.



    The IMO may not be required..but I feel like people are quickly pounced upon for any wrong step & I haven't developed thick skin yet!
   RE: The drool. um all I can suggest is don't drool on or shoot the messenger? Something like that. Thankyou for the compliment and for seeing what I was trying to say.

*stamped IMO. Yup.




devoT -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 6:31:46 PM)

If someone says right out they're dyslexic, then any errors in grammar or spelling can be easily forgiven. If they're dyslexic but don't tell you, then how are you supposed to distinguish them from any other poorly educated (by self or state) ignoramus? But it depends on the context of the communication: if I'm sifting through potential partners/friends, someone who can't communicate well turns me off. It tells me they probably don't read much, which means there's something we won't have in common right away. People tend to pick up vocabulary and spelling, language and grammar from those around them and their interests: if it's all bad, it doesn't say much about the intelligence and quality of either the person or those they associate with, or their interests. It doesn't mean they can't be nice people, it just means there's not enough there for me to want to share too much of my life with them.

But if it's just a post on an online forum, perhaps in answer to a query, then I really don't waste my energy getting annoyed by bad spelling. (What does annoy me is when people reply with absolutely nothing to do with the original post:-)). If it's a REALLY bad post (terrible spelling, poor grammar, no punctuation etc.), then I just don't bother to even read beyond the first line.




Noah -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 6:32:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mellian

Spelling and Grammar is obvious, if one is not bothered to make the effort to write properlly, then they are not worth talking to. As for other aspects, it can be pretty iffy considering people can get varying impressions from what someone writes, how they write it and so on without the body language and tone. I know how I write and how I talk in person can be quite different, especially if they never met me in person.

-mellian



This way funnier than the quotation mark guy.

Okay, this post has helped me come to a realization about myself. I am likely to make a negative snap judgement about someone whose grammar and syntax are horrendous if the post I find the crap writing in is pontificating about the importance of gud english.

So there we are. Abominable writing yields a worthy insight. God works in wondrous ways.




WhiteRadiance -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 6:44:32 PM)

What irks me above all else is when the TOPIC is misspelled.  I find myself shaking my head and smirking in judgement.
I do think that we all tend to look at the whole picture when communicating with others.. and spelling, punctuation and grammar play a part.
However, I rarely judge the person by such superficial trappings.  After getting to know certain people who can neither spell, capitalize or punctuate, and accepting them as they are- I must say that I am a classic hypocrite:
I judge those I do not know and love those I do.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 7:56:25 PM)

~Fast Reply~

I tend to shy away from posting opinions on grammar and spelling and such.  There are far too many critical posts on the subject which also contain errors.  It seems Murphy's Law will always remind me that as soon as I ridicule someone for "less than" behavior, I somehow wind up humbled in the same camp.




Emperor1956 -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 8:14:32 PM)

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Noah:  God works in wondrous ways.


Yes He do.  errrrr   does. 

*smile*

E.




juliaoceania -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 8:20:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

~Fast Reply~

I tend to shy away from posting opinions on grammar and spelling and such.  There are far too many critical posts on the subject which also contain errors.  It seems Murphy's Law will always remind me that as soon as I ridicule someone for "less than" behavior, I somehow wind up humbled in the same camp.


OMG it is fun to watch the grammar and spelling nazis get their comeuppance though[:D]. You are right, it is better not to express such opinions when someone follows to point out every flawed coma usage.




DominaSmartass -> RE: Judging someone on line by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 8:22:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife
But this thread is not about " other forms of intelligence ". It is not about being world wise as opposed to " book learned ". It is about the fact that the method of communication on the forums is written. And shifting the subject of this thread to build a straw man of intolerant bullies sneering at the less fortunate, then self-righteously attempting to chastise the people who have never presented or even conveyed such " insults " seems to me to be a hollow attempt to cripple the real issue.
 


Thank you ever so much for your reply!




DominaSmartass -> RE: Judging someone on line by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 8:42:06 PM)

One more observation from me:

I think it's interesting how the majority of the replies here, no matter which point of view they have expressed, have been well written, correctly spelled, and coherent. I have yet to come across one post (with the exception of that intentionally bad one) that has caused me to cringe. There have certainly been people making spelling, grammatical, and all types of errors left and right, as people do. That wasn't the point of this thread...to say that everyone should be great at writing and all that entails. The point was simply to get a pulse of the community here as to whether or not you draw conclusions about someone based on the way they type.
As some people have already said, the way someone "acts" online can translate into real life and often does when it comes to things like attention to detail and the effort they put into a task. For that reason it does make sense to take the quality of written communication into consideration.

By the way, I started to think about prejudices against people in real life and realized that many people who are from the southern U.S. (like myself) are immediately judged by the accent with which we speak. For that reason I have all but eliminated my backwoods, hillbilly accent. Has this helped me in my career? Certainly. Personal life? Certainly. Is it fair or right? Maybe not. Is it a fact of life? Yes. People judge others on many things, not least of which, our ability to communicate. If I spoke like a character on the Beverly Hillbillies I wouldn't be nearly as employable. Same thing goes for if I typed like I didn't graduate 3rd grade. I'm not trying to be insensitive to people with disabilities, I certainly think exceptions should be made (like oral exams instead of written...or anything else that can help) but when it comes down to it we all have to face the reality of this cruel, harsh world where people will make judgements based on factors that the individuals being judged cannot always control.




HatesParisHilton -> RE: Judging someone on line by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 9:46:16 PM)

I'll admit to a prejudice.

If you use "Dudespeak" or "Valleygirlspeak" and have 200% more "Like", "Whatever", "I was all-", "She was all-", "and then HE goes'"..."

you fucking SUCK.

THERE, I said it.  No apologies.

Then again I doubt anyone here is the equivalent of "Kelso" from "That 70's Show" or Paris Hilton.




BalletBob -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 9:58:37 PM)

Well as I do make typos, from not looking at the keyboard at times, I sure hope some prospective Mistress would go by content, and not by my typing. Just think, I use to be able to type 30 WPM, but that was so long, long ago.

It depends on what is in the person, and not in their typing.

Still Looking and typing, BalletBob




juliaoceania -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 10:03:21 PM)

You know, come to think of it I do judge people based upon how they speak. For example I think Dubya is pretty damn stupid because he cannot seem to articulate things very well. He may very well be  rocket science material, but the way he communicates one would never know it.




gooddogbenji -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 10:04:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

You know, come to think of it I do judge people based upon how they speak. For example I think Dubya is pretty damn stupid because he cannot seem to articulate things very well. He may very well be  rocket science material, but the way he communicates one would never know it.


Bad example.

Yours,


benji




FelinePersuasion -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 10:11:39 PM)

Miner miss ups I ignore, but when every second word is mangled beyond all intelligable means I won't bother to read their posts. I'm just not interested in deciphering mangled knarled beyond recognition posts.

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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

communicates online affect the way you "see" them? Do you ignore typos, incorrect spelling, or grammar mistakes because it's just not that important? Or does it turn you off to someone completely when they don't seem to have a firm grasp on the language - or on their keyboard?




redbottombonanza -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/3/2007 10:20:39 PM)

Hmmm ,"vapid, faux and fukdup".......charming, absolutely charming.  I never claimed to be perfect, in fact I know that I am not.  I DO know that I will never post anything on this board again.  I was simply stating my opinion on the matter without attacking anyone.     Goodbye.




ScooterTrash -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 2:35:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

How does the way someone communicates online affect the way you "see" them?

Typos can be ignored, to point; poor spelling or the misuse of a word speaks volumes to me however. Consider the media you are working in. They only have visual stimuli (writing and pictures) to portray themselves with and if they screw that up, that very important first impression has been tainted.




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