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sleazy -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 5:19:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

Sleazy, I'd KILL for that software!  got a link???


Used to be commercially available, heck 10 years or so IBM were including it in the software bundles given out wtih new PCs I seem to recall.

try a google for "dictation software", the names  that spring to mind are "via-voice" and "simply speaking" I think the first was by IBM and the second by Dragon. Older versions are probably only peanuts on e-blag or the auction site of your choice. Luckily now for most of my typing I use a secretary, I dread to think what her opinions would be if I had her do my posts here!!!!!



HatesParisHilton -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 5:26:21 PM)

thank you!  [:D]



Noah -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 5:40:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ambrosius

I have to admit, I am a grammar nazi. I stop reading when I see stupid-speak. A few typos is nothing....


A few typos are nothing.

To ze cooler! Mach schnell!



HatesParisHilton -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 6:02:29 PM)

"Zehr are no grammatical ezzzcapes vruhm Stalag Thirteeeeeennn...

Ho-GAHNNNNNN!"




Noah -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 6:34:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sleazy

quote:

ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
keyboard key "travel", particularly on some laptops.

When on one of these you can punch a key as you would on a normal GOOD keyboard and yet the character or numeral doesn't "happen".  And sometimes you don't want to be bothered with spellcheck (or checking grammar if the damn lapy misses a comma/punctuation mark) when it's the fault of a design flaw, not your own typographical "mea culpa".


This problem I regularly suffer from, with my office desktop & laptop, then my personal laptop & desktop at home I often hit the wrong keys. I darent think of the pda with its tiny pen and on screen keyboard, and a "thumb-board" that is little better. Sometimes i really do consider getting some text to speech software, but it would stop me typing whilst using the phone and end up with lots of ummmms and errrrrrrs in every post :)


If people occasionally have to pause to decipher one of your written sentences (I hear mine sometimes take weeks) just wait until you see all the glorious ways that software will misunderstand you.

Get something up-to-date and map out some generous blocks of time on your calendar for training it if you decide to give that a go, especially if you don't invest in the top shelf stuff.



sleazy -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 6:55:21 PM)

I think getting in a sub/slave with audio typing skills would be far more fun to train and correct than software :) Luckily the only typing I have to do these days is here on the interweb. The dictaphone gets my vote as one of the top inventions of all time



bandit25 -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 7:04:34 PM)

I was thinking the same thing, Noah.



Sinergy -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 8:18:16 PM)

The problem I had as a technical editor was that frequently I would read things written by individuals that were grammatically correct, excellent punctuation, and typographical error free.

What frightened me is that this left no obvious excuse for the reader to not arrive at the inescapable conclusion that the person was born with nothing more than the equivalent of a 80286 in a quad-Pentium world.

Just me, probably wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy



Noah -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/4/2007 9:46:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sleazy

I think getting in a sub/slave with audio typing skills would be far more fun to train and correct than software :) Luckily the only typing I have to do these days is here on the interweb. The dictaphone gets my vote as one of the top inventions of all time


I tried having one one play dictaphone but it just gummed up the buttons.



KnightofMists -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/5/2007 10:06:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

How does the way someone communicates online affect the way you "see" them? Do you ignore typos, incorrect spelling, or grammar mistakes because it's just not that important? Or does it turn you off to someone completely when they don't seem to have a firm grasp on the language - or on their keyboard?


It is just another means of communication.  If I have to struggle to understand what is communicating... then I am turned off.  No matter the method of communications.

Accents, typos, soft speaking, bad grammar  etc  are all over looked if I can understand what is being communicated.

After I understand what is being said... then it is a question of the quality of the thougth... Is it well considered... or is some Dumb ass speaking.  One is interesting... the other might just be amusing to play with.




Ambrosius -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/5/2007 10:23:43 AM)

If it was just one, then I did all right. LOL



mellian -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/12/2007 8:40:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah

This way funnier than the quotation mark guy.

Okay, this post has helped me come to a realization about myself. I am likely to make a negative snap judgement about someone whose grammar and syntax are horrendous if the post I find the crap writing in is pontificating about the importance of gud english.

So there we are. Abominable writing yields a worthy insight. God works in wondrous ways.



Yes, it is to easy to shoot oneself in the foot in that way. :p

-mellian



MizSuz -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/12/2007 10:59:34 PM)

I try to make allowances for folks that english is their second language (if I'm aware of it).  If their writing is incomprehensible to me I usually stop bothering to read.

But I must admit that I've prejudged someone based on their writing skills and found after meeting the person that they were wonderful.  I know it's the 'book by its cover' thing, but I still do it.  Usually if its just the occasional typo or mispelling that's no big deal as long as their thoughts are well enough laid out that they can be understood.  I dislike third person speech and the A/a conventions and usually pass them up.  It's just too much trouble to follow.



slavesrs -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/12/2007 11:06:44 PM)

To the Op,
 
Typo's happen, I make them all the time and as for spelling well mistakes also happen, however how one types should not matter as long as the respect is there.



mons -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/13/2007 1:38:56 AM)

greeting emperor

it takes someone who is trying there best to b sweet but i can feel the bitterness come right throught i do not give expalintion on why i do things , if you had ask me " mons why do you do this , this way or can you tell me why this happen , now i write in smaller letter becasue it is easy and my mind is trying to work on the spelling as long a i get someone of the marks in i do not care. my point is to try and write so that i am heard many know about my learning disorder now i am not going to explain this to you. i want you to go to a website to check out what this dsiorder is like. then come back to me and let me know what you have learn from what you read. i had many people tell me they could not understand my writing but they have said it in a way with kindness and wonder not like a highschool footballer player teasing the wall flower . now i have been to many school and yes have degree you see it is my writing that is bad not my mind i read several books a week and i also do many other things. do not ever try to belittle someone it so childess really, if icould do what you ask i would do it so fast this is something inside of me that is as fixed as it will get. and this on my last not one this for you, oh we can talk about as long as you not using this i am better then you and " oh please us this and this well help" life is not like this. your the only person i have spoke to in a long time who ha turn to make me feel small i am surpised no one can do this to me you have to care for them and no i do not care for you at all. every i have the right to say this to this person many of you written and said oh mons we do not understand but you never ask me for an " explaintion " go for it LOL  so now read this website site type in the word "learing disorder and read read and read more you will come back her a changed man or woman i am not sure what sex you are. ok take care all and have a good day i am so tired oh i have pneumonia ii stood for hours ot side in the cold last firday i now am sick as a dog

take care all
mons and this was a very good post ( oh i had a head injure i was knock out i suffer now from walled eyes i see doulde and thing tilted so another thing in my life )



DomThoughts -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/13/2007 2:13:48 AM)

Something that always amuses (bemuses?) me about this thread, every time it comes up in places such as this, is that I could come here and describe in reasonably graphic detail any of my particular sexual  turn on, turn offs, and nobody would raise an eyebrow to that. Regardless of how deprived and / or bizarre they were and there’s a good chance that I would find somebody who shared my particular fetishes in this place. (isn’t that what we’re all here for!)

But the instant anyone raises the question of grammar, the board fills up! I don’t understand why this isn’t any different than any other preference. If your particular proclivity is for having hamsters shoved up your arse, then I hope you find somebody with similar tastes. Equally, if you’re happy using phonetic spelling then hey, knock yourself out and use that to find somebody who writes to your taste.

My own personal opinion on this is that in this place all you have to judge me on is what I type, and the way I type it. And if I want to catch anyone’s attention then I’d do better making sure both of those things were done to the best of my ability.

One of my earliest memories of online life is chatting to, and eventually meeting, a girl who had the most exquisite style of writing, and from the first message I saw her write, I was hooked. And in a particularly powerful way I learnt the difference that good English can make. As a direct result of that encounter I went off to university to take an English language degree.

If I write a message to someone here, I will take the time to ensure that it is (reasonably!) well written, because that is a show of respect for the person I am talking to and regardless of who, or what they are, I shouldn’t talk to anyone if I don’t have a respect for them. I expect the same courtesy.

It doesn’t mean I won’t talk to someone who writes in txt speak, but they will definitely be way down on my list of priorities compared to someone who takes the time to write in some semblance of English.
So that is one of my fetishes, if you don’t like it,  then I really don’t care, because I’m not here to find people who don’t like what I do, I am here to find people who are interested in the things that interest me.



Phoenix2raven -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/13/2007 8:11:52 AM)


I always felt that it is a limited mind that would spell a word one way. LOL Content matters what is said not how its said.



SweetDommes -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/13/2007 10:56:02 PM)

Yeah, but what if you can't make heads or tails of the content because of a lack of effort put into the typing?



kindaeasy69 -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (1/14/2007 4:52:43 AM)

I do tend to judge someone based on his or her writing*.  However, this is done in comparison to my own abilities, which I fully admit are severely lacking.  Chances are I won't even notice misspelled words or misused commas, much less a dangling participle.  So for me to hold someone to a standard, similar to that which I hold myself, I don’t feel is out of the question or asking too much. 

As far as posts to the forums.  A complete lack of even an attempt at basic spelling or grammar is just frustrating.  If I have read a post twice and simply can’t figure out what they are (supposedly) trying to convey, then I move on to another topic.  I simply don’t have the patience for a third read and in doing so I save myself some frustration.  However, I am likely missing out on valuable information in that others who might have posted a brilliant reply have probably skipped the post as well; an opportunity for several members to have benefited from those answers is most likely lost.  This to me is just as frustrating.

As far as profiles the same rules apply.  I have written a few people who have minor spelling or grammar errors.  I’m certainly not going to let a typo stop me from meeting someone who seems to share similar interests.  On the other hand, an abundance of errors will often receive “hidden” status.  And there are some atrocious profiles.

Also post and emails are not IMs or TXT messages and IMO should not be written as such.

* - In my above statements I do not include anyone who is audibly or visually impaired, or anyone who has a learning disorder of any kind, or those for whom English is a second language.  Actually if I know or even suspect someone’s post is “affected” by this I will read it as many times as I need to until I do understand it.  Which, by the way, based on the posts (all 7 pages) I have read in this thread is usually once.

So my question is: knowing that there are quite a few people here who are faced with dyslexia or other learning disorders how difficult are we making it for them if we don’t take the time to check spelling and basic grammar?

Kindaeasy
(All spelling and grammar checked with Microsoft Word)



SATANMAN -> RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their communication (2/15/2007 3:29:46 PM)

I assure you that my communication skills are quite adequate in conveying my message, but, I find it necessary to sometimes lower myself to use the local "limgo" as it were to do so. aint dat da truth lol



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