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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 3:00:45 AM

mons

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greetings

i would hope someone who reads anything i write would wonder if i had a problem with a disorder. i am dyslexic and i written here many times the first time it was hard and i was shy about my writing i went to the gorean fourm they took the time to explain what was wrong with my writing when other would laugh make fun they taught me what i was doing wrong. when you have this disoder you can not see what is wrong so they told me . and i am happy to say along with a friend whom i write to sshe is not into the lifestyle she wrote and i copy and watch how she wrote. now i am an artist i am a postage stamp collector and i build doll house. so the way someone write is not the sum of who they are. someone may write brillantly and may be a total ass or nut case when someon else like me is smart fun and a kind person to all so i suggest and it is just a suggestion do not judge by that person writing take the time to know them and you may find the one your looking for thanks for listening

warm wishes (oh all who write so well no one is an ass is was just a way to explain how not to judge anyone estein could not tie his shoes )

mons

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 5:30:03 AM

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mons I am glad that you posted! Yes I could tell through your writings that you have problems, that means that I do take the extra time to read a post by you. You don't take shortcuts or type badly out of choice and THAT is the point I tried to make.
There really is a difference between not being able to, and choosing not to.

*stamped IMO*

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RE: Judging someone on line by the quality of their com... - 1/4/2007 7:35:29 AM

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I'll admit to a prejudice.

If you use "Dudespeak" or "Valleygirlspeak" and have 200% more "Like", "Whatever", "I was all-", "She was all-", "and then HE goes'"..."

you fucking SUCK.

THERE, I said it. No apologies.

Then again I doubt anyone here is the equivalent of "Kelso" from "That 70's Show" or Paris Hilton.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude...lighten up, bud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Judging someone on line by the quality of their com... - 1/4/2007 8:23:24 AM

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I must admit this thread is fantastic.

I do however have a bad habit of repeating Myself, but I learnt to forgive Myself a while back. Saying that the only thing I find frustrating in how I type is he inabilty I have to express Myself well through written text, in person however I have a rather extensive vocabuary for someone who has a rather (see repetition) shambolic education.

At the end of the day it is a part of My idenity, I'm not trying to come across as a "hearing" person, but hopefully a well spoken deaf person.

However in regards to speech, I am currently learning slang words, because it's a bit annoying not to have the accent of where I live then again thats due to My hearing, and I'm quite lucky not to have a monotone voice, that is very common among other deafies.

This has worried Me slighty as well in terms of a prospective partner dimissing my obvious grammer limitations, but at the same time it filters them out very quickly.

So I know the people who take the time to try and know Me and to communicate with Me are good people, and worth My time.

WoS (Master of over using the comma)

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 11:13:44 AM

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When someone contacts me without employing such devices as spellcheck, punctuation, and the shift key, I feel that it comes with a sense of unimportance. If the person who wrote it isn't simply unintelligent, they clearly don't care enough about contacting me to try to make a good impression. I am very careful about my missives--part of my complaint with people who don't is that it seems to me disrespectful, and part of it is that my brain is trained to read whole words and sentences, and while I am bombarded with arguments of "you know what s/he means!" I often can't find viable meaning in webspeak and sloppily-written prose gibberish.

First impressions are very important, and online a first impression is based 100% on written communication. Some people think I'm stuffy for insisting as I do on writing correctly every time (and almost everyone thinks I'm older than my 18 years). Those people would, I'm sure, be pleased to recieve the notes I dismiss. Like nearly everything else in this life, it comes down to what a person is looking for. People who use netspeak and even l337 are probably happiest with other people of the same ken. I pray that they all find each other and have fun with the evolution of the language. Myself, I am best pleased with a thoughtful, well-written note. The occasional error is acceptable--we're all human after all. But for me, the art of eloquence is a pleasure unto itself.

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 11:26:53 AM

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Upon reading this thread I just feel the urge to say..........people that live in glass houses...........

Otherwise, I tend to read and base my opinions upon the intent of the words. In addition, I play value in the humour and intelligence conveyed (or not) with the words' usage, rather than the spelling, punctuation, correct grammar, etc etc etc........

Not to mention, anally obsessive people drive me nuts.

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 12:52:12 PM

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anally obsessive people drive me nuts

what about anally POSSESSIVE people?

har har

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 1:06:19 PM

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How about juding someone by their screen name? Nice one, HatesParisHilton.

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 1:19:08 PM

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I have to admit, I am a grammar nazi. I stop reading when I see stupid-speak. A few typos is nothing, but just not trying isn't worth my time.

I have other peeves that are just as bad for me. I work from home, and I spend a lot of time online. When I'm doing my boards and groups, I don't want to waste my time on posts that are hard to read. Anytime there are pages and pages of a post without any paragraph breaks, I skip it no matter how enthralling that hook is. My eyes just can't take it.

White space is your friend. :)

I have similar problems with wacky colored fonts and huge letters that make you scroll back and forth to read the sentence. I just don't bother.

Those are my personal 'things' about online communication. But I'll talk more to folks who type like that then I would to all the random "You got a cam?" messages that pop out of nowhere. LOL

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 1:28:00 PM

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So, the thread title: "Judging someone online by the quality of their communication".

Quality in communication also involves content (or lack thereof). Therefore, I'm bypassing typos, grammar and all other peeves presented beforehand and moving on to a pair of other bugaboos in communication even when the pedantic aspects of an e-mail or message are flawless right down to "comma or semi colon" ~

1: Lack of pertinent information: Someone contacts you and their profile description has three sentences (or less) and there are almost no items listed in their profile to give any indication of someone's tastes and persona, and/or almost no mention of anything specific as per mutual interests (sexual or otherwise) in messages/e-mails from them. In these cases I begin to feel like they are "phishing" even if not for $$ purposes.

2: Slipshod replies that do not take into account context: someone reacts to something you stated without fully reading what you stated (in messages/e-mail; I'm not referring to posts on boards). Even if they never employ a malapropism, who cares if they send you something and you waid through ten lines of material, only to find that none of it matters because those ten lines were based on an erroneous premise they came to by skimming what you wrote them in the first place, and missing a very important qualifier in your statement to them (or in your profile)?

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 2:06:59 PM

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Mons: I appreciate your thoughts, and I've known for a while that you suffer from dyslexia. So I read your posts, even though they sometimes are difficult. But I have noticed the following points when you post:

1. You do not use capital letters. Why? How is this related to your learning disability?

2. You repeatedly misspell words and yet spell them correctly in the same post. For instance, in your post on this thread, you spell "disorder" correctly, and then later, you misspell it. The same with the word "someone".

I do not understand the mechanics of dyslexia, and so I would welcome an explanation. It seems otherwise that there are two small areas that you could focus on that makes your writing easier to read.

E.

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 2:08:29 PM

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If someone says right out they're dyslexic, then any errors in grammar or spelling can be easily forgiven. If they're dyslexic but don't tell you, then how are you supposed to distinguish them from any other poorly educated (by self or state) ignoramus? But it depends on the context of the communication: if I'm sifting through potential partners/friends, someone who can't communicate well turns me off. It tells me they probably don't read much, which means there's something we won't have in common right away.

This reminds me of an incident I had while suffering with a brain virus. I was lucky that the part of my brain malfunctioning was my sense of right from wrong, my morals if you will. I decided to take a merc for a spin belonging to my fiance's mum. This was without permission or a licence for that matter. Eventually I was stopped by the police and taken into the station. (Not that I would have got far, as the vehicle was low on fuel and I had filled it up with a £5 IOU). After being there for several hours of questioning, I was approached and asked why I hadn't told them I was mentally ill. Obviously I was not aware of this fact.

Many people suffer with learning disabilities without actually knowing it as they have managed to get by. Orally they are extremely able to convey their message, but the written word is of average ability. Plus, just because you find something difficult does not mean you should have to explain yourself every time you lift up a pen, or use a keyboard. Surely we are equipt with a certain level of tolerance?

As for grammar. I personally can't remember being taught about plurals, comas, semi colons and such like. I remember coming to the conclusion that a coma was there to take a breath and therefore dotted them around after composing a piece of work, when attempting to read back. This method did not bode well for my first year at Uni and I quickly had to learn the error of my ways. My point is... if I had not taken the degree, I would not be any less intelligent or capable of learning. I just wouldn't have exercised that particular skill. I may however have spent my time doing something far more useful in life.

Judge people by their ability to live life to the full and interact with others in the real world. Not by how they have responded on paper (or screen in this case!)

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 2:10:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

Mons: I appreciate your thoughts, and I've known for a while that you suffer from dyslexia. So I read your posts, even though they sometimes are difficult. But I have noticed the following points when you post:

1. You do not use capital letters. Why? How is this related to your learning disability?

2. You repeatedly misspell words and yet spell them correctly in the same post. For instance, in your post on this thread, you spell "disorder" correctly, and then later, you misspell it. The same with the word "someone".

I do not understand the mechanics of dyslexia, and so I would welcome an explanation. It seems otherwise that there are two small areas that you could focus on that makes your writing easier to read.

E.

Hate to tell you this but it's 'mispell'

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 2:16:08 PM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misspelling

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 2:20:44 PM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misspelling

I clicked on that hoping to see pics of Miss (Tori) Spelling's asscheeks.

Maybe I'm illiterate...

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 2:48:21 PM

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Too clever for my own good lol, can't even say we spell it different in the UK. You're right it is misspelt and i've been spelling that one wrong. I'm going to write to my old English Teacher for never picking me up on that one lol.

I stand corrected! But I did find that funny.

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 4:32:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

I'm sure this topic has been covered before, probably many times. I'm just curious (inspired by a recent thread with some really incoherent typing...)

How does the way someone communicates online affect the way you "see" them? Do you ignore typos, incorrect spelling, or grammar mistakes because it's just not that important? Or does it turn you off to someone completely when they don't seem to have a firm grasp on the language - or on their keyboard?

occasional typos are ok

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 4:36:33 PM

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"How about juding someone by their screen name?"

I dunno. I've never "juded" anybody...

(vaudeville rimshot, "baddomp-boomsh")

kidding, kidding, no slam, I make typo's all the time. It was just funny in the context of this thread.

But it's a GOOD question, so, yes, I do and have been told I've been judged by ones I choose. This has been often a positive as since I believe in semiotics and memetics (which are apparantly bones and bedrock of kink community IMO), I choose my usernames for specific implication and potential inferrence (semiotics appliacation in action, and many do it unwittingly as well).

By the name I use here, it's rather a slam dunk to figure out that I probably never have dated a dimwit skinny-ass blonde bimbo whom incarnates the adjective "venal" nor ever will. That cuts down on some unwanted e-mails, I can tell you. That's a judgement on me I LIKE.

also, on another site, my nick made it clear I dig spanking and was not a novice. I received a lot of good unsolicited messages from that one.

Now, a casual aside: a lot of my typos (and those of others) are not their fault. Why?

keyboard key "travel", particularly on some laptops.

When on one of these you can punch a key as you would on a normal GOOD keyboard and yet the character or numeral doesn't "happen". And sometimes you don't want to be bothered with spellcheck (or checking grammar if the damn lapy misses a comma/punctuation mark) when it's the fault of a design flaw, not your own typographical "mea culpa".

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 5:04:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
keyboard key "travel", particularly on some laptops.

When on one of these you can punch a key as you would on a normal GOOD keyboard and yet the character or numeral doesn't "happen". And sometimes you don't want to be bothered with spellcheck (or checking grammar if the damn lapy misses a comma/punctuation mark) when it's the fault of a design flaw, not your own typographical "mea culpa".

This problem I regularly suffer from, with my office desktop & laptop, then my personal laptop & desktop at home I often hit the wrong keys. I darent think of the pda with its tiny pen and on screen keyboard, and a "thumb-board" that is little better. Sometimes i really do consider getting some text to speech software, but it would stop me typing whilst using the phone and end up with lots of ummmms and errrrrrrs in every post :)

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RE: Judging someone online by the quality of their comm... - 1/4/2007 5:13:02 PM

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Sleazy, I'd KILL for that software! got a link???

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