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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/4/2007 9:02:47 PM   
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Sometimes, the hardest thing in life is learning that what you thought you wanted isn't really it...or that you're not ready for it...or that you're afraid of it. For more of the people I know, their greatest fear isn't failure, it's success. For if we are successful, what would we have left to complain about?

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I was talking to another coworker / neanderthal the other day, stuck in the hold of a steel ship, pondering this and that.  He said when he got into the union a crane operator gave him a sound piece of advice.

In the harbor, the only real limit to not making 300-500k a year is the person themselves.  A crane driver or boss that moonlights on their day off can make that much.

This guy said that the problem with heading down that path is that it is a one way journey.  One will get that much money.  Get the $3500/month mortgage.  Buy the Humvee.  I agreed, since I am of the opinion that one's expenses inevitably rise to meet or exceed their income.  This is why I moved back to the harbor 5 months ago and cut my bills by 1/3.  I dont want to live to work.  And now I can ponder taking days off to do nothing but ponder nothing of any import.

Although I am one of those people who tend to go with the idea that a living wage for myself is at least six figures.  But I am probably wrong.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/4/2007 9:13:07 PM   
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No, it was a male relative, we laughed about it on the phone. 
 
Noah:  very funny post.  but in some cases it is like the Antarctic.  Or in my case, Oz.
 
Yes there are about 10 or so female "sub" women in my area.  But I am not a "top".  MY profile states directly what I need to be sexually "in tune" with someone, and having loked at the profiles, there are literally about two women in my vicinity that would have a chance of being a match.
 
I mean, I don't give a shit about wax play, classic power exchange, blah blah.  If I did, as you state, your comment would be an all rounder of "yes".
 
As for the other comments you made to mgd, well, not goin' there.  You and he can tussle that stuff out.  But very well articulated and equally entertaining.
 
and thankfully, with paragraph breaks, danke.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/4/2007 9:39:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fantastic analysis...What can one do about this stuff ! They are convinced about their being into real.It is because they try to make their fantasy come true with out considering the circumstances they are in.Once it reaches to the point where they have to log off and act in real, they find it impossible.On the other hand they are never ready to give up what they call"searching for real" At the end all the blame is put on their opposites head  or they just go into hybernation.I have recently been hit by one of them and the height is she intiated not me.In our starting chats she was excited,energetic as if she had found what she was looking for.As time passed she became cooler and cooler.When there were just five days in our real meet,she ditched me and i never found her again till date.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/4/2007 9:41:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
Noah:  very funny post.  but in some cases it is like the Antarctic.  Or in my case, Oz.
 
Yes there are about 10 or so female "sub" women in my area.  But I am not a "top".  MY profile states directly what I need to be sexually "in tune" with someone, and having loked at the profiles, there are literally about two women in my vicinity that would have a chance of being a match.
 



It is a pity that every single woman on this site has "Will Not Relocate" tattooed on her forehead.

But anyway, those two locals you mentioned, do you have them on a rotating schedule or do you plan to smoke the first one down to the filter and then give the other one a go?

I guess pissing and moaning is better than whining down there.

One of mine is from NZ, mate--speaking of things that broke off the Antarctic. She is coming back for her second annual pilgrimage this Spring. And by one of mine I mean one of those amazing women who exceeded my standards in several delightful ways and continues to enrich my life in important ways whether she is present or not. My friends are eager to see her again and my girlfriend is eager to meet her.

So what do you want to make, excuses or progress?

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 12:05:14 AM   
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nice to see such a post, maybe Ill move to new york, you can relocate to uh..where im from.
maybe i'll try your 50's get up.
Just know this bud, I DONT think its much the ladies fault, whatsoever.. Its some MEN who do shit to em if anything. Lie to em, cheat on their wives with em, and disrespect em. Ever since I got here, its been the strangest, most outlandish thing Ive ever seen. Rotten apples. If i blame the gals, its merely for lettin these jackasses get to em so, but lets face it, theyre easily offended by such low-class stunts as I've seen pulled.

Glad youre havin fun dawg, truly..Try to play fair and be nice...
and buy a new shirt...lol
MGD


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 12:23:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Whether its the fault of the gals or the men, it seems pretty irrelevent to me, looking at all the complaints and the odd voice that proves the rule, online seems a very unsatisfying and a not very successful way of hooking up.

I don't do online but I wouldn't take an online relationship seriously until a meeting had taken place. To me the 'I'm not ready' is the plaintive cry of a cock tease. That most hated female animal of any male's youth. Women who want to indulge but daren't usually have issues that are better left buried. Best to just move on.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 2:29:11 AM   
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looking at all the complaints and the odd voice that proves the rule,


Odd Indeed, how a certain profile might come off with all the passionate intensity of a Sunday School Class with no mention of anything resembling sex, and one could almost see how such success would be realized, were they willing to relate as the 50's Daddy-Type, attracting those who believed themselves to be innocent little girls gone astray.., and were he be willing to provide such a fun sailing adventuring confessional time..
Christ I've definately seen it all now, my mystique is just too damned urbane and colorfully sophisticated, and I need to re-invent myself into a greyed out, rambling, simple, uncomplicated church deacon. I got a Hobo outfit, think that would work as good on the ark?

I can see where thats sexy. Yep, damn skippy.
{cough]

what
the
f*ck
ever

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 4:01:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm glad to see that you know it's not just the women on here.  To be honest, it is hard to make that first step to meet someone...we all know that.  And, in my opinion, it's a bit harder for the woman (or sub) than it is for the man (or Dom/me), no big surprise that I'd feel that way, I suppose.  Not everyone has common sense...no big surprise there either.  I guess so many read the horror stories and when it comes time to actually meet (gasp!), those stories come to the fore and they get cold feet.

I'm not defending anyone nor am I blaming anyone.  I think the only solution is to keep on.  Set yourself a time limit.  Try and get to know the person a bit first via email/phone/whatever and set a realistic time limit...whatever that is for you.  I see nothing wrong with stating that, although you will be happy to get to know the person before meeting them, there is only so much you can tell from their words.  You cannot look into the eyes of a monitor, hear a voice inflection...see a glance.  I cannot imagine that any person could or would have problems with that.  Sincerity gets me everytime!

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 6:35:39 AM   
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And, in my opinion, it's a bit harder for the woman (or sub) than it is for the man (or Dom/me), no big surprise that I'd feel that way, I suppose.


Granted, and good that you insert that, as the vulnerabilities of the sub will always be part of the equation, and saying "they chose to walk that path" may be true, but seems a bit callous in the reality of the matter. since any dominant who hopes to collar one will be in need if a modicum of sensitivity to that if he wants said collar to fit comfortably, figuratively speaking.

Nonetheless, try as I might, I just cant justify spending the last year waiting on one then the other, and the 4 or so years before that waiting for the sub turned vanilla ex to turn back to sub. Sigh, maybe thats another thread; "sure it's consentual, but after all these years your being no sub is making me unhappy so *see walking papers."


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 6:53:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Flip side of " I'm not ready".

My profile states loud and clear that I am seeking friends. My inbox has a minimum of 5 emails a day pushing for me to relocate, go spend the weekend with, I would be the perfect slave for.. etc etc.

Just because I talk with a Dom does not mean that I am trying to slide into a relationship or a collar! Sheesh it is exhausting.

If I am too nice it is taken as ooooh I must be interested in them. If I am brusque then I must be a bitch/slut in need of a whipping.
Ugh.


*hand stamped IMO by Inspector #9

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 7:42:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cjenny

Flip side of " I'm not ready".

My profile states loud and clear that I am seeking friends. My inbox has a minimum of 5 emails a day pushing for me to relocate, go spend the weekend with, I would be the perfect slave for.. etc etc.

Just because I talk with a Dom does not mean that I am trying to slide into a relationship or a collar! Sheesh it is exhausting.

If I am too nice it is taken as ooooh I must be interested in them. If I am brusque then I must be a bitch/slut in need of a whipping.
Ugh.


*hand stamped IMO by Inspector #9



aww pobracita!
I'd be willing to wager if your inbox was maximum 5 a year, you'd find the need to have it say something besides" just friends.", nor would you be quite so standoffish when talking to doms worrying over being too nice.
I lost count of how many subs Ive seen come in as new, saying they sought a dom/master, and a week later it read as yours does. So then try making friends with one, good luck. You might, but don't hold your breath, and if you do so, its amid continual reminders and advisories of how you aint gettin any, even if youre not trying to. Even a reference to the issue will usually bring the typical "Look buddy, Im not on here for sex, I can get all the sex I want any time I want."
Yeah, exhausting. "For women, getting sex is a choice, for men, its a chore"
But hey, It's ok youre here on a personals site only seeking friends and "meeting new people" Welcome to the vast majority. I guess they all found it "exhausting" too, but I'll wager not nearly so exhausting as those of us here seeking an actual mate with so many "specifically stated" profiles to weed out, sift thru, and not dare contact.
So if youre tired, you can come take a nap with me. Not to worry, I guarantee you I'm way too exhausted for any sex or play more than you...lol.

MGD


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 8:00:41 AM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		Wow MGD that seemed pretty hostile. I am not the only one at CM that isn't actively seeking out another person. If you look at my profile you will see why.

I am not healthy enough okay?? So what if I want friends.

I'm recently divorced & I don't want to rebound on anyone.

I'm hoping to move across the country so it wouldn't even be fair to begin something.

~nor would you be quite so standoffish when talking to doms worrying over being too nice.
I don't think you could find anyone that calls me standoffish lol. Shy maybe, but always friendly.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 8:22:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		nah, not hostile, and who knew you were ill?

apologies, and i understand, as im moving too, so no point in working the profiles, so i come in here and bitch instead okay? truth is I wasnt bitchin at you directly, ok I wuz, but the statements made I think are still valid, but retracted in your regard and behalf.
damn, that's 2 apologies in last 24. This "loose cannon" job needs to pay more.


there, my conscience is clear.
so how about that nap?

lol j/k...i swear
MGD


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 9:00:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow.  Someone is bitter.

While I agree that online is not the best medium, I have met a number of people on here with whom I would move forward with, if not for distances ands the like.

Again, if you contact 20 women, and all of them have the same reaction, is it you or them?

Yours,


benji

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 9:08:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Whether its the fault of the gals or the men, it seems pretty irrelevent to me, looking at all the complaints and the odd voice that proves the rule, online seems a very unsatisfying and a not very successful way of hooking up.

I don't do online but I wouldn't take an online relationship seriously until a meeting had taken place. To me the 'I'm not ready' is the plaintive cry of a cock tease. That most hated female animal of any male's youth. Women who want to indulge but daren't usually have issues that are better left buried. Best to just move on.


Here is a classic example of someone who feels the glass is half empty as opposed to half full. Now mind you some may think me Polyannish, but I tend to see it half full.

Ok, compare this to job hunting for your dream job, or building your dream home, or saving for an early retirement... do any of these things come "easily" to you? I am thinking that they do not and that is precisely why these things are of such value.

Why do some of those posting on this thread have the expectation that finding a sub of value would be "easy"? I do not get that. I have been on numerous job interviews lately, and I have not gotten them.... do I bash the employers? No. Do I moan about no jobs in my area? Sometimes. Will I eventually relocate to my dream job? Oh yes, most definitely! You see, life is full of risks. Forming a relationship is a risky proposition too.

How many dates do you all expect to go through to find your match? How many false leads do you think are out there? Any salesperson knows you have to knock on doors, call many phones, put your face out there before you sell anything at all. It is better if you focus on those likely to buy what you are selling, but still not everyone is buying it. It is even further helpful if one keeps a positive attitude when hunting for a partner. Nothing more unattractive than someone who assumes a woman is out to take them, mentally ill, will never show up for the first date... or a whole host of issues.

Geesh, most people want to be with someone joyful and happy. Life is just too damn short. So if people are attracting negative things to them, they need to look within, seriously.

As far as if the internet works, it has worked better for me than the single bar scene of my 20s did for me. Even some connections I have made that were not serious were often enjoyable on a friendship level.

But that is just me.


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 9:35:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Geesh, most people want to be with someone joyful and happy. Life is just too damn short. So if people are attracting negative things to them, they need to look within, seriously.

As far as if the internet works, it has worked better for me than the single bar scene of my 20s did for me. Even some connections I have made that were not serious were often enjoyable on a friendship level.


Life is just too damn short and that is my point. If someone says they aren't ready, fine, move on, why waste time chasing moonbeams?

I have only had experience of one person on the internet and she was sending so many mixed messages about meeting I didn't know where I was with her but from chatting to others, I get the impression she is not unique. If she isn't then women on the internet take so much loooooooooooooooooooonger over a simple decision to meet for coffee (and may never do) than women I've met at munches or in bars do about actual play.

Can't speak about men because I don't pursue them.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 10:01:03 AM   
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Wow. Someone is bitter.
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jeez, you a puppy or a chipmunk? Bitter is for pansies. I'm somewhere between acidic and caustic.
Sorry, but being called bitter doesnt do much but increase my toxicity level, as all it does is point out my luck may not have been so great of late, but know what pooch? If I die before I ever get lucky with a lady again, I truly can't complain, as I've if anything had far too much of the sort of fun we Dominants pursue, and if you doubt that, you can watch some of my video, and if not, how would I be bitter?
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
Again, if you contact 20 women, and all of them have the same reaction, is it you or them?

Well since you asked the question twice, and are so good with the snap judgements, maybe you can tell us?

quote:

Yours,
benji

as if...lol why you always write "yours"? whose? that just a meaningless pleasantry? Dude, since youre a first leutenant of the cm welcome team, I've watched you address and reply here for some time, with invariably the same short not-so-sweet tartly judgemental onelinery, and should perhaps defer to your "cmenority". Tell you what, I'll grant you I'm bitter, or at least disgruntled, if you'll admit to being snotty.

deal?
lol
MGD


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 10:16:24 AM   
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Life is just too damn short and that is my point. If someone says they aren't ready, fine, move on, why waste time chasing moonbeams?



I was really interested in actually meeting someone to have Ds with, that was my goal. I emailed with many, and told them all I was doing this. I assumed they were also interacting with more than me, and I thought this was healthy, I did not ever think I should be the only one if I had not even met them yet.

If I was emailing someone, and they were hesitant, that would be a great indicator that it might not lead anywhere. I would invest my energy into others. But that is just me. My point is that if we do not put our energy into those who are negative, confused, and unsure then we will not have them in our lives... they will go away.



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Can't speak about men because I don't pursue them.


Men can be overly eager to meet. I do not have a problem with that if they were local. I met a couple of different people locally... no sparks were present, but I was willing to meet for a cup of coffee. What I found somewhat disconcerting is those who had not even been talking to me long and wanted to talk about living with me and lived hours away from me. Now that was more than I was willing to talk about without even a cup of coffee.

You know, it really is just what sparks a person, no one can even answer what that is. I started talking to my Daddy, we talked for a couple of months. It was all I could do to continue talking to other men because I did not want to get too hung up on someone I had not met yet. A week before he came to meet me I did tell all the others I wanted to focus on him. The energy was right between us. It was not hesitancy that kept us from meeting, it was schedules and distance.

I will repeat, it was schedules and distance and not hesitancy that kept us from meeting very quickly. If someone lives within a two hour drive from you and cannot even meet for coffee, I would just write them off as an internet friend.... it is a lot less frustrating.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 11:04:32 AM   
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This is a hot topic and I have a long reply. It may take more than 1 post. I'll try and condense.

-Lying to one self. Is there anyone so self aware that they fully realize every possibly unconcious thought, fear or motivation? Or are many of us growing, learning, struggling here on earth?

-Lying. Not good. Is there a gray area? For example- a "white lie" on a public website to protect privacy?
For ex. I'll be having a b-day soon. People often have stereotypes, I think. My fear here and I have actually been proven wrong time and again.

I revised my profile today. I put my age at 99. A lie. Do you think that means I lie about anything else? ( I don't). I don't want to ask for an age range as a requirement.* People mature - physically and emotionally at different rates. Biological and chronological aging are not always equal.
Some of us work at keeping young (ex excercise, healthy diet) and/or are fortunate genetically.

* I'd put I like men between 35 and 50. My own real age is in the middle. BUT - I find that would be foolish, as people differ greatly! I'd much rather be with a man who is a fit, dynamic 60 than a embrace a sloppy, lazy 29 yr. old.***

My photos are all taken within a range of a few months to a few weeks ago. (I do plan to take more to send privately that reveal full face and figure).  Remember- public website, privacy, safety,  pics can be "stolen" and misused.

I don't much fear those with full profiles and such advertising here. I am wary of invisible predators who'll hunt a person down. Sadistic real rapists, murderers - anti social personality disorders - are not myth.  Nor paranoia on my end. If anyone wants to know - please ask - I'll answer privately, maybe even post some of my own experience.

*** that is judgemental and negative. I need find better words. People do have illness, handycaps and such and are NOT lazy. That is not what I meant at all. Eh... well... hey.. some are narrow, old farts at 25, and others cool dudes at 80. I am not perfect... and would never say I was.

More later. Thank you, everyone.
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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 11:14:57 AM   
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