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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 12:16:28 PM   
Noah


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Original: gooddogbenji

Again, if you contact 20 women, and all of them have the same reaction, is it you or them?

Well since you asked the question twice, and are so good with the snap judgements, maybe you can tell us?

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Yours,
benji

as if...lol why you always write "yours"? whose? that just a meaningless pleasantry? Dude, since youre a first leutenant of the cm welcome team, I've watched you address and reply here for some time, with invariably the same short not-so-sweet tartly judgemental onelinery, and should perhaps defer to your "cmenority". Tell you what, I'll grant you I'm bitter, or at least disgruntled, if you'll admit to being snotty.

deal?
lol
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No. It's a meaningful pleasantry. Chicks dig that kind of shit (hint, hint)
And benji isn't snotty, he's pissy. He makes no bones about it.

I think it is wonderful the way you've opened up to the idea that the reason you're flying solo for so long may not be the women on this site. I think it is interesting that what you've opened up to is the possibility that it is all down to the guys on this site instead. Well, all the guys but one.

Your posts suggest that you are intelligent, imaginative and not devoid of a sense of humor. That's a pretty potent combination. Maybe there's just that one little thing that needs to be turned loose.

You know the old saying: "Out of the mouths of dogs ..."

Anyway, to take this in a slightly different direction, in addition to the cool chicks I've met (physically) from here, there are two who fit the pattern some guys are complaining about. They just about visited, then chickened out. The thing is, I wouldn't have invited them to visit if I didn't see a lot of wonderful things in them. Those things didn't disappear the day(s) they changed their minds. And hey, the future is still an open book.

The upshot is I have two more cool friends in faraway places as a result and we've been able to be something else to one another than maybe we were exploring in the first place.

This speaks to that whole idea of "wasting time on people". I try to choose people very carefully. The choice is usually part reasoned and part intuited. If you enter the kitchen with good, fresh, wholesome ingredients and you don't just majorly fuck things up you should be able to put together some kind of worthwhile meal whether it ends up being the recipe you first had in mind or something else altogether.

You're gonna find somebody new to talk to this week, and you might die the next day. How do you wanna handle it?

Yeah, there will be some unpreferable moments along the way. They sometimes make for great stories to tell whomever does end up dangling naked from the rafters of your barn, and you can learn things from those moments. Things besides: Girls Are Poopy.

Wouldn't it be great if those months you feel you've wasted by not getting to your intended destination could have been enjoyed moment by moment as a series of exploratons of new territory, yielding knowledge and experiences that enriched rather than impoverished you?

And would wouldn't it like totally be super dandy if I could manage to get a couple of thoughts across without resorting to those interminable German style sentences?

We can all dream.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 1:16:25 PM   
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"But anyway, those two locals you mentioned, do you have them on a rotating schedule or do you plan to smoke the first one down to the filter and then give the other one a go?

I guess pissing and moaning is better than whining down there.

One of mine is from NZ, mate--speaking of things that broke off the Antarctic. She is coming back for her second annual pilgrimage this Spring. And by one of mine I mean one of those amazing women who exceeded my standards in several delightful ways and continues to enrich my life in important ways whether she is present or not. My friends are eager to see her again and my girlfriend is eager to meet her.

So what do you want to make, excuses or progress?"
 

Uh, Noah,

1:  what makes you think I haven't contacted them already?  Big assumption there, bud.  One of them hasn't logged in (last I checked) for weeks.  If  I've already  made the initual polite overature I don't see how I'm making any excuse.

2:  stating that  for certain people, in certain times the chances of meeting are lower for some people than you stated in your post I replied to is not "pissing and moaning".  I think you were being unfairly flip and patronizing there.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 1:27:01 PM   
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No. It's a meaningful pleasantry. Chicks dig that kind of shit (hint, hint)
And benji isn't snotty, he's pissy. He makes no bones about it.


They do eh? well chicks have always dug me enough without modifying my language into cutsey nonsense that isnt me. If that's him, fine. Then again if it's all just a put on, which I kinda doubt...no comment.
Pissy not snotty, well thanks for correcting me, and unless he has a problem, that dog will hunt, as the terms are interchangeable IMO..more or less.

As for the rest of your post, kindly send one of your many cute exes to translate, as outside what seemed some complimentary descriptors, (after i picked on your shirt--how magnanimous)...well lets just say I was shocked and awed by your gift of pontification, albeit in german style sentences as you say..but.... DOOOOD....HUH???!

But my lack of comprehension notwithstanding, It was all very cosmopolitan.
had I been born with more cognitive gifts than I have, I might even be attractive to the women on your planet.


Thanks for your effort to help or...uh, whatever.
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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 1:33:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cjenny

removed because I really shouldn't post out of an emotional reaction.


my apology was sincere...what?


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 2:21:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		so, I just checked.  Out of those 2 compatible women I mentioned, one's profile has vanished.

but cup is half full, not empty.  so, time to scan again and see if there are newcomers or altered profiles.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 2:24:20 PM   
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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 5:52:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MmakeMme

Good god, if this thread isn't a good reason to sit back and have some brandy and a smoke, there just aren't any good reasons left.

Personally I perfer to throw tomatoes; but I'll share the brandy with you if you want?
 


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 6:51:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		now, there's the problem of defining the "ultimate lie" as well.  for many, the "look" of a person qualifies.  And someone can ACCIDENTALLY lie in that regard.  They might not have the freedom or wherewithall to get a pic posted here or on their profile that would be "true", and let's face it, kink is a very VISUAL relationship framework.  I'm an example of that; my pic was rejected RE "too much eye-stuff/too close up".  But the only pics that women I've been with fall into that category.  Which is why I have a link in my footer.

Yet at the same time, I don't wanna be recognized at the Mall or a career shindig by some dingleberry with an axe to grind that could shoot my "real" pic anywhere they like, so I altered the pic so it's "me" but still allows myself some "safety".  On the flipside:

Let's look at cjenny's profile.  That pic very clearly is NOT faked, via the pic we can tell she is VERY honest RE "physical" self, at the TOP of all info she states DIRECTLY her medical difficulties etc.  THESE ALONE make her the OPPOSITE of any "cockteaser" as mentioned beforehand, and that is underscored by her DETAILED filling out of her profile.  No-one in her boat lies about stuff like that, so I'd like to take a moment and compliment her on her profile and more importantly on how it matches her POSTS in these boards.  Even as merely a friend, this woman is helping to provide a counterbalance to the "cyber teasers" (for lack of a better term).

If a male bothers to look at her journal entries, and cross referrence them with her profile and then her posts here, then any man who didlikes "net liars" ad "cyber teasers" should give her a standing ovation (which I do now, I am actually standing and clapping at this moment, PHYSICALLY), and think about this:

If SHE is here, and that honest, then there will have to be MORE women that honest here later and possibly here now.

Which is not to say men will not have to wade through "fakers" to find diamonds in the coalmine like cjenny, but c'mon:  out of all the teasers the OP and other men have met, they were there BEFORE the net, I've met more OFF the net than on it, you probably have too, honestly.  Guys (AND women) get suckered all the time, and the bulk of the world gets suckered in r'l.

food for thought.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 7:20:04 PM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		MGD I sent you mail on the other side okay? I just didn't want it in here.

HatesParisHilton thankyou for the kind but uneccessary words. It isn't so much about my profile but rather I just didn't expect what was said.. if that makes a modicum of sense I will be happy lol.
I am just a still shy newbie who can be too sensitive. It is all good, okay?

Apologies all around, and cupcakes too because I've the munchies.


*stamped IMO forever more.


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/5/2007 7:31:12 PM   
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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 2:09:05 AM   
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how could I have said any such to her...sigh...*curses self*


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 10:39:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		m... its all good okay? i yanked my post only because i was reacting out of emotion. something i said i would not do on these boards.
it is all good, i repeat.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 11:30:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		you madam cjenny, now have my respect.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 11:33:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've read your posts and I haven't seen once that you've reacted out of emotion.  I deleted one of my posts on this subject for the same reason...emotion.  I was thinking of starting a thread on this subject, but came to the conclusion that it simply wasn't necessary.  I know what I believe and that's good enough for me.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 11:56:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		what do you mean ? I always react out of emotion...

oh..youre talking about cjenny.
doh.
whats wrong with emotion anyway? I've only managed to make myself emotionally available during the last year or so, and , well, being a man, and having no idea how to maintain any checks and balances, seem all over the map.
I've come to believe women are centered in emotion, usually hide it till such time as they can emotionally trust, and I also believe that some men will never understand they will NEVER attain her best ,sweetest, grandest, adoration, and love, and likely the truest and best of her submission, until they have gained that trust patiently, and managed to bond with her emotionally. Not an easy feat for most men, albeit not being born a cripple, they soon manage to become so in that area it seems. I did. I'll no doubt feel flames for this, but throw it out in curiousity, as to wether it will see affermation, or ridicule.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 12:23:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		that kinda moves back to the original post and theme.

IMO, lies come from a lack of trust on any or all of many issues:  "will the truth get me hurt?  will the truth turn them away?  will the truth mean I come on too fast?".

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 12:39:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

that kinda moves back to the original post and theme.

IMO, lies come from a lack of trust on any or all of many issues:  "will the truth get me hurt?  will the truth turn them away?  will the truth mean I come on too fast?".


Sometimes it is inappropriate to be too truthful too soon. I know there were things that I needed time to discover about my Daddy, and there are things he needed to find about about me, over time. When does one leak out the complete and unadulterated truth of their lives? How long does that take? Certainly longer than one date.

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 3:34:20 PM   
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I've come to believe women are centered in emotion, usually hide it till such time as they can emotionally trust,
 
     I don't know about the blanket statement of 'women' . I tend to trust those that I like, almost immediately and sometimes to my detriment. It isn't something I want to change because I would rather take people on faith & expect the best.
     Argh I had to stop while writing this and now I've totally lost my thought :(  *but it was really deep & wise hehe* 
     Maybe I will try again later.
 
 

 
*stamped IMO until I forgot what I wanted to say*

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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 3:44:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I've read your posts and I haven't seen once that you've reacted out of emotion.  I deleted one of my posts on this subject for the same reason...emotion.  I was thinking of starting a thread on this subject, but came to the conclusion that it simply wasn't necessary.  I know what I believe and that's good enough for me.


LOL uhhuh bandit that is the point. I try very very hard to stay unemotional on the boards. If I always let myself react before really thinking things over then I tend not to learn.. just react. I see a lot of posts that are reactionary & so many times a good post is lost.
There is always the thought too, that if I am hurt by something maybe I ought to look at why it hurts rather than just shut down. Life to me is learning. The day I stop wanting to learn, well I hope that day never arrives  .
None of that means I won't continue to question & ask things here. It just means that I try and pick my words carefully and my thoughts more carefully still.

That helps me to keep down any internal lie. Emotional defenses are a lie to ones self because when you deny the chance to be open you can miss a whole lot. Life is short & it's a waste to miss things out of fear.

The Ultimate Lie to me, is not using what you have. It is in not becoming the best that you have to offer yourself.

Jeez I sure hope some of that made sense.


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RE: The ultimate lie - 1/6/2007 4:23:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, you do seem to react out of emotion a lot.  There's nothing wrong with emotion, but I think it tends to cloud one's judgment...at least at times it does.  I don't know that gender has anything to do with checks and balances.  Some people are emotional and some aren't.  Some learn to keep it in check and some don't. 

I do agree that, in order to attain anyone's best, trust is essential and, yes, that trust must be gained.  I don't know that it's so hard to men...I think that men find it unmanly...whether due to society or upbringing.  I'm certainly not ridiculing you, but I think you may be putting limitations on yourself.

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