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Limits - 1/10/2007 6:34:45 AM   
Donkeyboy18uk


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Status: offline 		It makes me laugh when slaves say they have no limits, when they obviously must have, scat, K9 etc etc..  has anyone ever met a really extreme no limits slave?
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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 6:41:37 AM   
mymasterssub69


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in my pov, i'm sure everyone would like to think they don't have limits until the Master/Dom introduces such play.  then sub/slave quickly changes their mind.  all it takes is one try to discover what your limits are.

i as a daughter have many limits and my Daddy knows them because His interests don't venture into that sort of play (electro, scat, watersports etc) which is why we are so perfect for each other.


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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 6:41:46 AM   
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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 7:28:43 AM   
SlaveAkasha


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Status: offline 		I figure just because I haven't met one, doesn't mean they don't exist.  It's sort of like a UFO... I haven't seen one those either, but won't say for sure they aren't out there.
 
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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 7:39:30 AM   
tricia


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Status: offline 		As we all well know, any time this topic is brought up on the boards, it brings with it a million pedantic questions. 
 
What is a slave?
What is a submissive?
What is a natural submissive verse an ‘unnatural’ one?
 
There are quite a few extreme no limit slaves on this board.  One in particular who will go unmentioned as not to single her out.  She meets all “your criteria.”  The depth of her servitude is one that I cannot begin to compare myself to.  Perhaps this makes me a “weakened slave extract.” 
 
The point is just because YOU can’t imagine it or have never experienced it does not mean it doesn’t exist.
 
Another point I’d like to make – being a slave or calling yourself one doesn’t always have to be extreme.  I’m a slave to my Master by his definition and his criteria.  We are also compatible.  I won’t be jumping off bridges, robbing banks, owning a kennel of German Shepards,  or any other extreme example you can give, anytime soon.
 
edited to add, this reply is to the original op, not you akasha.  I haven't figured all this out quite yet...and not real sure i want to :)

 
 

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 7:44:27 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Donkeyboy18uk
It makes me laugh when slaves say they have no limits, when they obviously must have, scat, K9 etc etc..  has anyone ever met a really extreme no limits slave?

Well there are plenty of people who do not have THOSE things as limits.

But I do not know any ethical healthy person who does not put limits on their behavior when it comes to normal daily life.

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 7:57:05 AM   
all4yourplsr


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Status: offline 		I use to think I had no limits and then I found one when talking to a Dom here last week.  I had never considered it a limit because it is part of who I am amd alwaus has been. 

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 8:52:33 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Donkeyboy18uk

It makes me laugh when slaves say they have no limits, when they obviously must have, scat, K9 etc etc..  has anyone ever met a really extreme no limits slave?


Usually when I've met a "no limits" sub/slave, it's in one of three scenarios:

1) The person is wanting a fantasy. When I gleefully exclaim, "Oh goody! I've always wanted to chop off a toe!" they backpedal.
2) The person is mentally disturbed and wishes for someone to simply take over their life so they can run from the one they have.
3) The person is in a commited relationship where the limits of the two people so closely match that is SEEMS as if there are no limits or safewords. I hope we ALL find this kind of relationship!

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 8:58:07 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		I have never met a no limits slave.  I know ther asre some out there but i think that migh be dangerous for them.  True no limits means if ordered to kill their children or family they would do it?  i find that a little hard to believe  but i guess it could happen.

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 9:00:00 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: littleone35
I have never met a no limits slave.  I know ther asre some out there but i think that migh be dangerous for them.  True no limits means if ordered to kill their children or family they would do it?  i find that a little hard to believe  but i guess it could happen.

Matt's littleone

Given specific radical circumstances, yes I'd kill my family.  I'm ok with euthanasia after all.

But I've always said, if I would do something, I'd do it whether I was ordered to do it or not.  I think it's dangerous for someone to say "I won't do this, unless I'm ordered to do it" because I feel they are trying to not take responsibility for their actions.

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 9:10:46 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Status: offline 		Donkeyboy,
 
before this slave had the opportunity to witness the "limit/no limit" debates like the one you have started, she always thought that the CONTEXT of the expression was such that it would describe what sort of BDSM, D/s or M/s relationship or scene specific type preferences one had or activities one was willing to/not willing to participate in.
 
for example:   no housework, no watersports, no cumming on the face, no redheads, no religious scenes where the Dom is the priest and the sub is the altarboy, no bondage, no sports fanatics, no cyber-sex, etc.
 
as soon as the context of "within a scene or BDSM, D/s or M/s relationship" is dropped out of consideration, the arguement that everyone has limits (and the proof is that one would NOT saw their arm off or rob a bank or walk around the mall at noon on Sunday stark naked just because Master or Mistress has the ability to command them to) is seen by this slave as an attempt to stir shit and beat a dead horse at the same time.
 
in the context this slave mentioned above, the only limits this slave "has" are Master's...the ones HE brought to the relationship.  this slave did not and does not limit Him as to how He chooses to use His slave's body, mind, talent or assets within a scene or our relationship.

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 9:11:53 AM   
toservez


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Status: offline 		Generally when I hear or read about the no limit slave it is one of three things:

1) Dreaming in their head.
2) It is a cool thing to say and they of course have no intention of getting with someone who might push the envelope.
3) What they are really saying is that their limits do not cross what their Dominant’s are.

I think most that experienced slaves fall into number three. Of course you also get the reality versus living theory discussion as well but to me those people fall into number one.

Are there people that might get close to a true no limit slave, probably, just look at human history to see people brainwashed willing to pretty much do anything. I just doubt there are many sane people who do not have some limits in things that people have done in this life outside of what someone sees at a play party.



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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 10:06:35 AM   
tricia


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quote:

The person is in a commited relationship where the limits of the two people so closely match that is SEEMS as if there are no limits or safewords. I hope we ALL find this kind of relationship!


With all due respect, if you are in a relationship where the limits of the two people are the same then it doesn't just SEEM there are no limits or safewords, there ARE NOT any limits or safewords.  Perhaps it is a 'cushion' that allows me to say, "in my relationship, i am my Masters slave because within this relationship, i have no limits."   Outside of this relationship, no, i am not an extreme no limits slave.  In the context of 'play' outside of my relationship, no, i am not an extreme no limits slave. 
 
I don't advertise myself as a no limit slave.  My submission isn't generic. I guess i simply don't understand why we continue to have such a problem with the way people choose to define themselves within the the context of a relationship.



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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 11:55:48 AM   
FelinePersuasion


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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 11:59:09 AM   
ardelle


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when i become the property of another, i no longer have any limits save for the ones that my owner decides to place upon me. It no longer becomes a question of 'what will i do' but rather a question of 'what will he have me do'

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 12:11:01 PM   
Celeste43


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Status: offline 		After time you can declare yourself without limits in the relationship because you have the same limits your dominant does. He doesn't suggest inverted suspension because he knows it will give me vertigo, therefore it is now his limit as well as mine.

He isn't going to suddenly declare after three years that I should be toeless and I know it so I don't have to state that I have a limit of amputation. I picked someone with about the same limits I have.

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 12:11:38 PM   
sweetnurseBBW


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Status: offline 		In Our relationship as Master's slave my limits are his. They are his limits but they are still limits.

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 3:59:27 PM   
Squeakers


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Status: offline 		     A Dom I am friends with, years ago was approached on the net by a submissive male who's desire was to be killed.   Apparently this submissive was from some middle eastern county not in the USA and had some sort of contract written up that it was his desire to be killed and he was offering top dollar to anyone who would fullfill this final fantasy.  
    Even a Dom has limits, therefore my friend was not willing to take part, but I suppose that this particular submissive could be classified as no limits.     
    I knew a submissive who acted as a paid Domme online (I'm not a Domme but I play one on the net) and she talked to  a male submissive who wanted to live with her.   He claimed he had gotten some kind of inheritance, therefore would never have to work and he wanted to pay her $500 a month to be her live in maid.   The kicker was that he desired to be her toliet slave and never be allowed to eat food, his only concern was if just 'that' would provide enough vitamins and minerals.
    So yeah, I think there are those no limits people out there willing to go to the extreme and what the OP stated is not all that extreme.        

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 7:31:19 PM   
RedSavageSlave


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Donkeyboy,
 
before this slave had the opportunity to witness the "limit/no limit" debates like the one you have started, she always thought that the CONTEXT of the expression was such that it would describe what sort of BDSM, D/s or M/s relationship or scene specific type preferences one had or activities one was willing to/not willing to participate in.
 
for example:   no housework, no watersports, no cumming on the face, no redheads, no religious scenes where the Dom is the priest and the sub is the altarboy, no bondage, no sports fanatics, no cyber-sex, etc.
 
as soon as the context of "within a scene or BDSM, D/s or M/s relationship" is dropped out of consideration, the arguement that everyone has limits (and the proof is that one would NOT saw their arm off or rob a bank or walk around the mall at noon on Sunday stark naked just because Master or Mistress has the ability to command them to) is seen by this slave as an attempt to stir shit and beat a dead horse at the same time.
 
in the context this slave mentioned above, the only limits this slave "has" are Master's...the ones HE brought to the relationship.  this slave did not and does not limit Him as to how He chooses to use His slave's body, mind, talent or assets within a scene or our relationship.


This is what I always come around to..The term "no limits" is meant to belong to those in a BDSM lifestyle..where did things like killing yourself, killing others, extreme handicapping mutilation of yourself just because someone said so, and other types of foolishness become part of BDSM? We take the term totally out of context to prove our argument within the context of what BDSM. It never made any sense to me.

And for the record..yes..I have limits.

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RE: Limits - 1/10/2007 7:39:40 PM   
hisannabelle


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Status: offline 		i have one limit, and that is that the day that i believe he is acting out of malice or a lack of regard for what is safe, sane, and healthy for either of us, then i walk. meaning that, as long as i believe he's not malicious, crazy, and putting either of us in danger, then if he told me to, i would engage in scat play, watersports, electrical play, etc. - things i would not otherwise engage in. however, he knows that my interests don't veer in that direction and that i have a fear of electrical play, and his interests don't veer in that direction either - if ever they did, i trust him to approach it with caution. i think the one thing that might come close to a limit is my absolute terror with regards to knife play, and it's something we are slowly and cautiously introducing because he enjoys it and wants me to come to enjoy it. i suppose you could say i have "no limits," because i would literally do anything he says, as long as i have faith and trust that he is not acting out of a desire to bring me any real danger. meaning, i would pick up and move halfway across the world if he wanted, i would stop going to school even though it's pretty much what i live for in my own life, i would engage in types of s&m play that i personally find outside of my comfort zone, etc.

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