Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Newbies and Mentors


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: Newbies and Mentors Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Newbies and Mentors - 1/10/2007 4:26:27 PM   
Trampler


Posts: 580
Joined: 12/31/2006
Status: offline
I guess part of my reasoning for posting this was because of another thread, the one on Dm's and Dungeons.  A whole lot of people were playing the blame game on a newbie sub,( who yes didn't do what she was supposed to, but that was because she didn't know anybetter.)  And not to mention the general frustration that I get when I come across a newbie who hasn't read anything but a few bdsm erotic stories, maybe seen a few pornos.  In other words:clueless!  Maybe I am slightly snobby, but before I decided to take the plunge and check out my local community, I researched the hell out of this subject, ( yes had to slog thru alot of porno sites and such to find the Gems.) I guess I make the mistake of thinking that everybody should do that, research. It made me feel not only even more intrigued but also more on surer ground. I also felt safer about the idea of playing at a party, then at my house or someone else's.  I believe that while technically any person's role,(Dom/Domme,sub,slave,switch.) can give another person advice, and maybe mentor on a specific subject,( like how to flog,) I believe that only the same gender, same role can truly mentor another person, because they would have a clearer perception. I mean a Male Dom can't tell a newbie FemDomme on what it is like being a FemDomme now can he? Unless he is a GenTrans Dom/Domme and that is a whole nother ball game. Anyways I am rambling. lol

(in reply to onestandingstill)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: Newbies and Mentors - 1/10/2007 5:19:14 PM   
Dnomyar


Posts: 7933
Joined: 6/27/2005
Status: offline
I think that all people new to the lifestyle should talk to a Mentor first. They should find out what they are getting into before hooking up with a Dom/Domme. For some the lifestyle should stay a fantasy.  Reading a book is not the same as talking to someone who has had experience.  As for Mentors getting a bad rap, I know a few Dom/Dommes who should be in Jail.

(in reply to Trampler)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: Newbies and Mentors - 1/10/2007 7:49:12 PM   
LadyHugs


Posts: 2299
Joined: 1/1/2004
Status: offline
Dear Trampler, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In reference to your post, to which your opinion was that male Dominants should mentor other male Dominants and that Female Dominants wouldn't know how to mentor as a man, a female who is new in dominating others, I wish to make some observations and comments.
 
As a mentor, most of those I've mentored have been men who identify as Dominant.  Some of these new to the scene men were met by other men who were dominant, with cold shoulders and not helpful at all.  Some men seemingly see new men coming in as competition.  And, perhaps competition is good but, I've watched new dominants struggle.  As a woman, I'm not into the male games.  I've seen female dominants work better under mentoring by male dominants.
 
When the technical skills for whips, canes, bondage and such are well on their way; the art of domination is gender neutral.  So is the art of submission.  In my opinion, both men and women should participate in education and skills exchanges. 
 
I also see dominant skills similiar to any authority based position; such as police officers, fire fighters, EMTs, military soldier, officers in para-military and or military venues.  Women have also ridden on motorcycles, are documented in such in manner.  So, those trained and or placed in a position as to need to do what was often deemed men's work and or men's place--women have gone into those positions by choice and or necessity.
 
Relationship matters in D/s and or M/s, BDSM and or S&M.  Genders may have some impact but, dealing with individuals--is not about sex it is about the human factor.  The benefits of both genders is great.
I wish that genders were not automaticly cancelled out of consideration as the the quality and quantity of skills, knowledge and or experiences.
 
In summary, in my mind's eyes I see when there is any exclusion from resources as it applies to education and skills; it is no difference from bold prejudice against any sex, any race and or any belief and or practices within the community at large.  True, a male dominant may not be able to fully know what it is like to be a female dominant, nor would women know what it is like to be a male dominant.  It can carry on over to not knowing what it takes to be a Black domina or a Gay Asian Dominant.  Further carrying, would go to those dominants who were in submission prior to going into Domination and those who have never submitted period.  In my mind's eyes I see--all opportunities to learn from others should be seized and not exclude any resources based on gender, color or preferences of their BDSM practices.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

(in reply to Trampler)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: Newbies and Mentors - 1/11/2007 9:24:23 PM   
Trampler


Posts: 580
Joined: 12/31/2006
Status: offline
Lady Hugs,

Thank you, you have made some very valid points that are making me think!

(in reply to LadyHugs)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: Newbies and Mentors - 1/11/2007 10:12:43 PM   
domiguy


Posts: 12952
Joined: 5/2/2006
Status: offline
Anyone new to this should do some reading much self introspection and stay away from the people "looking" to help you. Don't rush...take your time find your path set your limits and push them or reign them in as you find yourself.

Use the skills that have gotten you through thus far in life...  the ability to discern (in your gut) the trustworthy from the users....This is probably your greatest resource and strength. Approach this as any other relationship...who cares if someone claims to be skilled in this or  that ...or a "Master." A creep is still a creep. Find someone you like and whom you enjoy  their company...don't let anyone push you into anything you are not ready or prepared for...remember 'nilla sex...you didn't just dive into "anal" on your first night...same approach here. Time is on your side. This shouldn't be your life...it's just an aspect of your being, it is not to consume you...relax.

If you are a complete knuckle head then...let these "mentors" who seek you out and call to you like sirens, "use" you and your niavette and stupidity against you...as you probably deserve anyways...Thin the herd! 

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers..and any more stupid posts about mentors.

< Message edited by domiguy -- 1/11/2007 10:13:58 PM >

(in reply to Trampler)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: Newbies and Mentors - 1/11/2007 10:42:01 PM   
simplyangelic1


Posts: 186
Joined: 6/14/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Trampler

I don't know if this topic has been posted before,but oh well.

Newbies: When you decide that you want to check out BDSM, please check out your local community 1st! Go to munches, public parties, other events, meet as many people as you can. Ask about mentoring. Regardless of what role,(sub,slave,switch,Dom/Domme,etc.) you are, I cannot stress this enough!!!  Ask who is responsible, who isn't. Who is availible for safe calls,and of course if you haven't already: research,research,research!!!


When I came to the lifestyle, there were no local resources.  The nearest for two hours drive in either directions.  So to say go there first may not be possible.  Some people actually do live in BFE. 

But I do agree that if available that local groups can be an asset.  Mentors, I'm not so sure about.  I would agree with juliaocenia that you won't realize a Mentor has been mentoring you till after they gone. 

(in reply to Trampler)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: Newbies and Mentors - 1/12/2007 2:14:28 AM   
ExSteelAgain


Posts: 1803
Joined: 7/2/2006
From: Georgia
Status: offline
Dom mentor to new submissive in about 2 weeks: "Since we relate so well, I should get you started."

Sub mentor to new submissive in about 2 weeks: "My Master should get you started."

_____________________________

You can paint a cinder block bright pastel pink, but it's still a cinder block. (By Me.)

(in reply to Trampler)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: Newbies and Mentors - 1/12/2007 3:30:31 AM   
MaryT


Posts: 553
Joined: 12/8/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: simplyangelic1

When I came to the lifestyle, there were no local resources.  The nearest for two hours drive in either directions.  So to say go there first may not be possible.  Some people actually do live in BFE. 


Ja.  Four hours here, if the weather is good.  Nothing like a group or a munch in the boonies, so it's nice to have people on line and books.

There are limits to text though.  I have a date Saturday with a biker dom and am wondering if riding a Harley can be considered a hard limit.  I haven't seen that one a limit checklist (not that I would use one anyway). 

MaryT

(in reply to simplyangelic1)
Profile   Post #: 28
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: Newbies and Mentors Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.059