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White Collar Women - 1/12/2007 9:27:02 PM   
Nosathro


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Status: offline 		I will skip my customary introduction since some find it offensive.  I was looking at my MSN page today and found an interesting article by a Kimberly Goad.  She is a Writer in New York who has written for such magizane as Red Book.  Ms. Goad has written an article on what she reports is a new trend in the White Collar Working Class Women, seems they are now dating Blue Collar Men.  One reason give is that the White Collar Women are tried of competing with their White Collar Men counter parts. Another is that Blue Collar Working Men appear to be more aggressive in dating.  Kimberly Goad believes also that there is a biological aspect that that makes these White Collar Women go to the more aggressive Blue Collar Men.  (Really)
 
In my some 20 years in this Lifestyle I have found a number of women who are in White Collar, Superviors, vanilla jobs who come to this lifestyle to be submissive slaves to men. 
 
I could go on about "Natural Order" but I knowing some here this would really get a flame war going.  Oh well, back to the steel disk, I have another "Voyage of Acquisition" to do
 
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RE: White Collar Women - 1/12/2007 9:33:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I could go on about "Natural Order" but I knowing some here this would really get a flame war going.  Oh well, back to the steel disk, I have another "Voyage of Acquisition" to do 
LOL , inregards to that comment seems I have learned the hard way on one of my blog post's. However I do think what You have written is very interesting.
 
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RE: White Collar Women - 1/12/2007 9:34:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am an unemployed white collar sort (I am applying to graduate school) who is involved with a blue collar longshoreman. He is also college educated and was involved with computer engineering for 20 years. He plans on going back to graduate school to get his masters degree (not in BDSM). He seems more white collar to me.

I have met many white collar men that I perceive as pretty aggressive, they know what they want and they achieve it. One usually gets ahead in the world by asserting themselves. To be honest, I prefer men that have had some of the same experiences as me. If they are blue collar, yet educate themselves, and are interested in the world around them I find that sexy. If they are couch potatoes or into sports to the exclusion of other things, I do not like that....



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RE: White Collar Women - 1/12/2007 10:10:39 PM   
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Kimberly Goad believes also that there is a biological aspect that that makes these White Collar Women go to the more aggressive Blue Collar Men.  

Master has his doctorate in philosophy.  The fact that his hands are softer than mine does not deter him from dominating me with an Iron Fist.

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In my some 20 years in this Lifestyle I have found a number of women who are in White Collar, Superviors, vanilla jobs who come to this lifestyle to be submissive slaves to men.   


In my 4 years in this lifestyle, I have found/met/talked to dominant women (some white collar, some blue), submissive men (white and blue collar), dominant men who dominate only men.......ummmm, your point was????

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/12/2007 10:39:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a white collar job and my Master has a starched white collar job, lol. 

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/12/2007 11:33:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't wear a white or blue collar to work ... where does that put me?

Ok, sarcasm aside, I'm a professional, so even though I wear scrubs every day, I'm pretty certain that I count as white collar.  Holly is educated enough for white collar, but the degree is something that most people would consider to be more blue collar (little do they know how many brains are required to deal with wild animals), and our boy is definitely blue collar.  For our next boy, I have no real preference for blue vs white collar, although educated is a definite plus.

Your implication is that white collar working women are submissive and that they seek out more agressive (and therefore dominant?) blue collar working men ... I think it's bogus, but have taken some pretty heavy sedatives due to some serious stress at my white collar job so I don't really care all that much. 


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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 12:58:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wish I was back in Jacksonville, trust funder babes came down speifically hook up with blue collar  guys - the truth is, rich guys are just as fucked up, and usully have less time (having to spend more time doing all the things involved in being sucessful) to  actually spend on you. My sister in law, a very accomplished and genteel woman, marrie a high power attorny, and he turned out a complete ass - if you just want shit, ther is some limp dick career slave waiting for you, if you're not a complete embarrasment - if you want a dumbass who appreciates you, provided you remind him on frequent occasion, then you might be happier with a working class fool. whatever spins your propeller baby.

Behind every successful man is a woman who only busts his balls on a discretionary basis - hell, Hitler was about the lamest fuck on the planet, and shit only went south after Geli Raubal offed herself.

Too many women expect it all to be handed to them nowadays: it's all about having a sense of commitmemt and a good lawyer if it's like that.


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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 1:11:56 AM   
mons


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in the vanilla friends of mine the women it just they give good hard sex, LOL this is true no nothing, just the sex is better

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 3:17:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		My career would make me one of those white collar workers. Master is a white collar worker as well.

What I like about him, about me and about us is that the color of our sociological work collar is not what determines our views of life or how we interact with the people we love and the people we meet.

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 4:07:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds kind of hokey to me.  Women go after whomever they go after...as do men.  All this white collar/blue collar nonsense.  In today's job market, people take what jobs they can get. 

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 4:12:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nosathro can you provide a link for the article because the only article on MSN for Kimberly Goad I can find is Big-Earning Wives, and the Men Who Love Them which mentions nothing about blue collar workers, their aggressive nature in dating or a white collar woman's biological need, nor the white collar woman growing tired of her white collar male counterparts ... infact I can't find any article by Kimberly Goad in which she is specifically writing about white collar women dating blue collar men.  Am happy to admit crappy search skills if I am proven wrong.

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 4:40:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe it doesn't really have anything to do with white-collar v blue-collar.  i think women are attracted to men who have JOBS.

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 4:59:24 AM   
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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 5:18:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		First let’s go over what you mean. I take it, for you, white collar represents intelligence and wealth. I suppose generally white collar folks are more intelligent, but that is certainly not an absolute. Many intelligent people have periods of being down on their luck and working in lesser jobs. There are also intelligent people who choose to work in public service type jobs such as teaching because of altruistic sentiments. However, I’ll give you the implied generalization that wealth equals leadership and intelligence with that disclaimer.

My experience tells me that, in the context of your example, what supplies lasting attraction more than anything is intelligence. Sooner or later the intelligence level will start to play on a relationship. That is the major reason white collar-blue collar relationships don’t last. There may be a temporary physical attraction among opposites, but that will soon progress to boredom, differences and outright resentment. Just the way it is.  

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 5:22:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Sounds kind of hokey to me.  Women go after whomever they go after...as do men.  All this white collar/blue collar nonsense.  In today's job market, people take what jobs they can get. 


Seems rather lame to me also but then I prefer to determine a persons merit based upon the person they are, not their formal education or the profession they have chosen. Since I am management myself ( I would guess white collar though I prefer to wear something more comfy than a starched white collar ) I can honestly say I have never had a profession preference either when I was seeing men or now that I focus solely on women.

What I look for in a partner is intelligence, ability to communicate WELL, sense of humour, good personal hygiene, a job and the ability to function as an adult (pay their bills, not abuse drugs or alchohol, etc) the type of job they have is irrelevant. For whatever reason, most of the people in my life have been white collar. The only one that could be considered blue collar/labour also owned the company.

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 6:05:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I didn't read the original article, but I have to say from personal experience that there may be some validity to the hypothesis that white collar women gravitate towards blue collar guys. One lady I was involved with broke up with me because she was afraid my attention to my career would take all my time and make me a poor husband / father. She is now married to a blue collar sort (jock in high school, etc.); was probably attracted to his physique; definately attracted to his fixed work hours and time for "family." But now she's very unhappy. Even though she makes more than he and covers most of the expenses, she's disappointed that he has no desire to advance at work, or to achieve more. And when he is at home with the family, he's usually watching sports on TV or playing sports video games.

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 6:24:50 AM   
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... One lady I was involved with broke up with me because she was afraid my attention to my career would take all my time and make me a poor husband / father....
 
...And when he is at home with the family, he's usually watching sports on TV or playing sports video games.


My ex is a white collar worker. His attention to his career made him a poor husband and an even poorer father.

And when he was home, all he did was watch sports on TV and played sports video games.

And that example as the determiner of the differences between white collar workers and blue collar workers is steeped in stereotype, not to mention pretty prejudicial.

What she got was a man that's home all the time. What she didn't see is that regardless of the kind of work he did, he was also someone who didn't want to do anything. My white collar worker ex was the same way. His rationale: "Hey, I'm home every night!!" He just never saw that being home was just one of the things I'd hoped he'd be and that he never bothered with anything else.

On the other hand, I know a LOT of blue collar workers who fix cars all day long at work, then come home and have an entire working mechanic's garage set up in their garage. They take in other people's cars (mine included) after work, are teaching their boys their trade, attend all the football games their sons are involved in, go to receitals their daughters are involved in, make every parent teacher conference, take their children to museums and libraries and all sorts of other activites, are emotionally present for their wives and have made wonderful lives for themselves.

I'm betting she figured you wouldn't have - or make -  time for all that and the other man would, but that he didn't live up to her expectations of involvement in his family - regardless of the status of his job verses yours.

juliet

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 6:45:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I saw the "headline" on the MSN page, but didn't read the article...figured I already knew what it was going to say. My suspicion would be that many women are tired of ending up with someone who could do their accounting but couldn't change the oil in their car. In my line of work, most of the "white collar" came from "blue collar" that worked their way up, so they get the best of both worlds. I did that ladder climb and have to admit it's more satisfying to be able to cover the entire spectrum than to be specialized. From what conversations I had had with most females, they seem to prefer rounded experiences and skills as well.

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 8:04:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

Maybe it doesn't really have anything to do with white-collar v blue-collar.  i think women are attracted to men who have JOBS.


As someone who supported a husband for too many years, I say absolutely!! 

Husband went back & forth between white collar and blue collar jobs.  I never cared what he did for a living, just that he HAD one.

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RE: White Collar Women - 1/13/2007 8:16:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		The idea that people "go slummin'" (date below their 'class') has been around for a long time. In fact, there was a popular Billy Joel song about it. Nothing knew to the idea. In my opinion, people should date who they want because they simply like the person, not based on their status or whatever. But, some find it 'hot' to date someone they're not supposed to date...to the point that it's a fetish. So, the idea isn't new nor are the reasons behind the idea.

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