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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 4:25:51 PM   
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Vanilla compatibility is more important to me than kink.  I need someone who can be engaged in my real life, which as a lot more to it than just kink.  I can be flexible on the kink, as long as it doesn't involve a sadist, I know I can't go there regardless of other compatibility.  As far as having "lists", you can have them and someone can come along who will make you toss some of them away.  But you do need to have enough self-awareness to understand those "things" that you will not give up, those items which are non-negotiable.

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 4:41:50 PM   
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When I was single, I looked for certain character traits that I consider to be important.  Whether we liked to do the same things or not was less significant to me than to have a partner with a character that I admire. 

I have been very blessed to meet my Lord.

*edited to add (for my Lord's sake...)  It was actually certain physical attributes that drew me to him... I just had to see what was under those leather pants.  *eg*  Once I did, I decided I wasn't going anywhere!!

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 4:47:47 PM   
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so it was character and your ideal of a man lol

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 4:51:30 PM   
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I was most certainly not looking for anything of any serious nature when I met my Master.  In fact, I was looking for something decidedly not serious.  From the moment we first chatted however, I felt a sense of familiarity that was both comforting and exciting, and to my dismay, within a few short months, fell head over heels in love. 

Not only was I not looking, I also didn't have much hope that the sort of intimacy and connection I now have was even remotely possible.  If I had been looking, really looking for the "one", my guess is I would have passed him up because he was not the sort of man I have historically hooked up with.   And, well...considering the kind of men I've historically hooked up with, I guess I can only say "thank God."


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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 5:18:00 PM   
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"Vanilla compatibility is more important to me than kink.  I need someone who can be engaged in my real life, which as a lot more to it than just kink. }



I agree. I have no evidence to support this but I think that this view grows more prevalent as one grows older and projects into the future, but like  I said I have no evidence and I could be completely wrong.

It really is difficult because if life was fair one should not have to choose between the D/s and the vanilla but it is something that some of us will surely face or have faced when seeking a life partner..

If it comes down to an all or nothing situation where I could be with a partner who fulfills only my BDSM needs or one who fulfills all my other needs I would always chose the latter.

I am sure this has been discussed before but I would think it can come down to, if given the choice, would you rather be in a mostly fulfilling relationship or would you never compromise and rather be alone.

I would also think that people who believe that D/s is or is part of their core identity would have a different view than those for whom D/s is simply another expression of self. 


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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 5:55:32 PM   
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Compatible and complimentary. I'm not an ideal person, I get ill, short tempered, make mistakes. So I wanted someone equally human who was also okay with me being human and having human frailties.

Sexually/play compatibility was a must. In other areas I prefer complimentary. I always say there's only room enough for one English major in this house and I'm her. He's a math/engineering type, much more practical while I'm theoretical. It works well, I build the castles in the air and he figures out how to put foundations under them, so to speak.

But most of all, he's become my best friend and that's the most important thing.


It sounds like you found the right combination for you. 

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ORIGINAL: RedSavageSlave

When I was doing a search, I had my "ideal" in mind but it was somewhat vague as I didnt want to be boxed into just one kind of person.


Sounds like a wise move on your part.  The interesting thing about coming at it from several directions is that there can be many different and successful combinations.

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Everyone that I've had a longer Ds relationship with I found when I wasn't looking and when I was just happy being me and being who I am.


So many say the very same thing.     Personally, I think one of the most attractive features of a person is how well they know and like themselves.  Serenity and confidence go a long way with me. 

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Vanilla compatibility is more important to me than kink.  I need someone who can be engaged in my real life, which as a lot more to it than just kink.  I can be flexible on the kink, as long as it doesn't involve a sadist, I know I can't go there regardless of other compatibility.  As far as having "lists", you can have them and someone can come along who will make you toss some of them away.  But you do need to have enough self-awareness to understand those "things" that you will not give up, those items which are non-negotiable.


I agree.  As much as my kink is a part of me, it is only one part... but I was fortunate enough to find someone with whom I share both vanilla and kink interests.

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

When I was single, I looked for certain character traits that I consider to be important.  Whether we liked to do the same things or not was less significant to me than to have a partner with a character that I admire. 

I have been very blessed to meet my Lord.


I feel similarly... habits and hobbies I can easily compromise on... character is one of those things that I can't.

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

*edited to add (for my Lord's sake...)  It was actually certain physical attributes that drew me to him... I just had to see what was under those leather pants.  *eg*  Once I did, I decided I wasn't going anywhere!!


Well, you should never underestimate the power that certain men have. 

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

so it was character and your ideal of a man lol


We all have our weak moments. 

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ORIGINAL: darksdesire

I was most certainly not looking for anything of any serious nature when I met my Master.  In fact, I was looking for something decidedly not serious.  From the moment we first chatted however, I felt a sense of familiarity that was both comforting and exciting, and to my dismay, within a few short months, fell head over heels in love.


Ahhh... that warm feeling of "coming home"... I know it well. 

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ORIGINAL: SlyStone

I agree. I have no evidence to support this but I think that this view grows more prevalent as one grows older and projects into the future, but like  I said I have no evidence and I could be completely wrong.

It really is difficult because if life was fair one should not have to choose between the D/s and the vanilla but it is something that some of us will surely face or have faced when seeking a life partner..

If it comes down to an all or nothing situation where I could be with a partner who fulfills only my BDSM needs or one who fulfills all my other needs I would always chose the latter.

I am sure this has been discussed before but I would think it can come down to, if given the choice, would you rather be in a mostly fulfilling relationship or would you never compromise and rather be alone.

I would also think that people who believe that D/s is or is part of their core identity would have a different view than those for whom D/s is simply another expression of self.


I have to disagree to a certain extent.  I could live without kink, but I don't think I'd want to even consider giving up D/s.  In fact, I left a 22 year marriage because I was unhappy without it.  But I suppose it all boils down to how you define just what D/s is. 



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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 6:12:48 PM   
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When i was looking, i started out looking for my "One", ie my ideal.  I knew that search would be a long and hard one and perhaps not possible.  So i started looking for a man that was "close enough".  I was definetly not looking for a Master and even more definetly one with sadistic tendencies.  During this search i ran into TPE and i had an idea of what it was.. but not really.  i think it stemmed from all the Doms i had run into, i ended up dominating.  So TPE seemed like it might make things more in sync with what i was looking for.  I was settling, but it was okay as i was just looking for something to get my feet wet.

I had a grand old time searching.  Playing the ass with the internet Doms that popped up on IMs, talking to several other Doms and talking to a few i was slightly interested in.  Basically no one had really caught my interest.  They were "possiblities"

::sigh::  then a little yahoo IM box popped up on my screen from a Dom and i went the normal route of acting like an ass.  Little did i know he would end up collaring me and i would be collared to him still 2 years later.  He also turned out to be into M/s relationships, TPE, and a sadist.  Ha!


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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 6:57:45 PM   
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quote:

I could live without kink, but I don't think I'd want to even consider giving up D/s. In fact, I left a 22 year marriage because I was unhappy without it. But I suppose it all boils down to how you define just what D/s is.



I define D/s as a clearly defined conditional power exchange, otherwise what is the point, what makes it any different from a man and women where the guy is dominant and the women is   submissive? Wouldn't that include a good part of the vanilla world? Maybe it does and if we drop the titles it would all be much easier, I don't know.

I  am dominant by nature, I don't think it is my idenity but I do think it is an expression of who I am.  That is not going to change whatever relationship I enter into.

So with that in mind,  if I could not find a partner who was into these defined roles, which is my preference, and I loved her anyway, than I could care less if she thought of me as her master or of herself as my slave, as long as there is mutual respect and love and fulfillment of the majority of my needs.

Like you said I think it comes down to how we define D/s.




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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 7:13:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SlyStone

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I could live without kink, but I don't think I'd want to even consider giving up D/s. In fact, I left a 22 year marriage because I was unhappy without it. But I suppose it all boils down to how you define just what D/s is.



I define D/s as a clearly defined conditional power exchange, otherwise what is the point, what makes it any different from a man and women where the guy is dominant and the women is   submissive?


Indeed, what is the difference?  I suppose my question would be, if you, as a dominant man by nature, were to get involved with a woman who was submissive by nature, what would be the difference?  Does a woman have to call you Master?  Does she have to call herself a slave?

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ORIGINAL: SlyStone

I  am dominant by nature, I don't think it is my idenity but I do think it is an expression of who I am.  That is not going to change whatever relationship I enter into.

So with that in mind,  if I could not find a partner who was into these defined roles, which is my preference, and I loved her anyway, than I could care less if she thought of me as her master or of herself as my slave, as long as there is mutual respect and love and fulfillment of the majority of my needs.

Like you said I think it comes down to how we define D/s.


I clarified my statement because some do not feel that there is a D/s relationship unless there is kink, or unless there are rituals or titles, or unless there is some kind of formal "power exchange"... (still not too sure just exactly what that is).   I personally don't think those things have to exist.  If he is dominant and takes the lead in our life together, and I am submissive and defer to him, then as far as I'm concerned that is D/s. 

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 7:16:57 PM   
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When I stopped looking for a "perfect mate" and instead started looking for mutual pleasure, my options expanded considerably. What was essentially a "boytoy" type relationship for me evolved into much more. I never would have considered him as serious relationship material.  We've been married now more than 5 years.
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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 7:30:23 PM   
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I don't generally look for someone like me. I look for someone who would be interested in someone like me and espouses the characteristics of someone who is compatible with me. I'm a lifestyle, service submissive, and as such I have come across way too many women over the years who really don't understand what that means. I get all sorts of stereotypical responses from people, and I get all sorts of ridiculous claims of what should be expected of me based on some conjectures that come out of some hidden bdsm book somewhere.

This produces within me one of the worst characteristics that a submissive (in the eyes of others) can have: I'm very selective. I know what type and style of submissive I am, and I know, contrary to misconcepted belief, that I have a LOT to offer the right dominant woman; not the closest dominant woman, or the most interested dominant woman, but the right dominant woman.

When I came back to California from my 7-8 year educational exploration in Michigan, I felt that coming back would help me reconnect with this community and hopefully find the right person.

I think I may have succeeded. I went through a lot of "title" users, femdom narcissists, and women with bizarre expectations because my cookie cutter was predesigned by them before they met me. As a result, my search is ending for now. My search finally succeeded.


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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 7:43:29 PM   
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When i first started looking again, my goal was to find my ideal...simply because I had some very high standards and was not going to settle for less. Luckily, Master and I were very compatible in all areas

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 7:54:15 PM   
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You want my input?

WOW!  You're brilliant. 

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 7:54:38 PM   
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I don't really have an ideal type, and have never thought about guys in that way.  Since I started 'dating' a couple years after separating from my ex, I've  tried to keep an open mind about what kind of guy I could connect with and while I do have preferences, I'm usually willing to set them aside and have never regretted it.

I think compatibility is important for a relationship to gel, but I tend to be attracted to guys who are very different from me personality-wise, so complementary elements is good.

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 8:20:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

When i was looking, i started out looking for my "One", ie my ideal.  I knew that search would be a long and hard one and perhaps not possible.  So i started looking for a man that was "close enough". 


On another site that I am on..for a while there I had posted that since I couldnt find "Mr Right" I was now looking for "Mr Somewhat Adequate"

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/14/2007 8:34:41 PM   
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When I met my husband Rob I wasn't looking, we just kind of happened, we were in the same industry (Motorcycle riding instructors) and it just seemed to click, we weren't looking for anything long term and that was 16 years ago. The same when I met my Top, I was at my very first lifestyle event and was fascinated by him and alandra, they seemed to truly enjoy themselves and were very open and freindly to me.     The ironic thing is when I have tried to find people I can never find the right ones, they are either something they say they are not or have unrealistic expectations. I've gone back to just meeting people and seeing where it goes from there.


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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/15/2007 3:14:59 AM   
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No, no and no........I don't look, I';ve never had to... for anything or anyone. I'm fairly self-aware, but even so, I have no idea of what's *compatable* when it's wrapped up in a unique person.

Compatability is something that may become obvious over time....I wouldn't know what it might be in a list form or as a search component.

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It's not about having a "list"... it's about knowing yourself.  If you look into yourself and recognize those things that are important to you, then you have an idea of what would make someone compatible to you.  It doesn't have to be specific mundane things... if I absolutely love bowling and he could give two whits about it, that doesn't mean a relationship between us is doomed.  But if I truly value optimism and embrace the joy of life and humanity, and he were a diehard misanthrop who saw only the negative in life, then it's doubtful that we could find enough common ground on which to build a lasting relationship.

And I do understand that we often find the best things when we aren't looking for them.  I just think that if we are going to go on a search, it's probably a good idea to know what we're looking for.



I also wasn't speaking of *mundane* things.

I haven't any experience of *searching* whatsoever, and the people that have been significant in my life were/are ones that I came to know as friends.

I can't imagine looking for a partner of any sort. It's simply alien to me. If I want to spend time with someone, there's at least a vestige of interest or attraction as a *person I enjoy being around*....but obviously.....*looking for a partner* and *experiencing people* with no agenda is different.

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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/15/2007 3:17:21 AM   
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I personally think all of us have an ideal image of what we'd like our mate or Dom/sub to be.
I think our own view puts us in a box if we are rigid about achieving our notions of what we seek.
I agree when we see someone compatible or complementary to ourselves we do have to readdress this ideal notion we hold.

I think this is firstly a wonderful thing as sometimes what we NEED is not what we think we want at all.
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Secondly sometimes our judgment indeed makes us settle for someone unacceptable because they posses the qualities we seek, r we grow tired of searching for what really works for us and settle on the wrong person.
It's a high wire act every time when you first decide to be with someone.
Sometimes you soar in the cloud, and other times we fall off and bash ourselves into the ground.
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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/15/2007 3:32:27 AM   
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i am going to paraphrase myself from my comment on a different thread.  i have a small foot, i wear a size 5 or 5-1/2.  When i go shopping for shoes based on style, i.e. black, closed-toe, pump with 3-inch heel.... i am usually extremely frustrated that i find them but never in my size.  When i go shopping to see what shoes are available in my size but not look for a specific style, i find all kinds of cute shoes and have a closet full of them.

Finding a partner?  Nope, i have not yet found my "One" but i have met several wonderful partners with whom i've had a great deal of fun and learning experiences.  To tell the truth, i have only met Doms through sites like this and have never found a partner at a munch or other event.  i go to the events to socialize and learn but have yet to find a partner there. 

So i think that knowing yourself and your own needs and desires are important, i think it's more likely to meet people in person if one keeps an open mind and not be overly restrictive. 


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RE: Your Search and Success - 1/15/2007 3:34:29 AM   
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Ditto for me. I was three months out of an emotionally VERY damaging relationship. I'm more terrified of loving another man and having hope things will be good for me than I ever had been in my life.
LOL I had full intentions at keeping EVERY man at arms length and getting rid of my baggage (or at least get beyond the neurosis of it more) before I wanted to begin another chance at what I need to be whole.
I felt something like I've never experienced in my life when I stood before Sir Rob 11/1/06. Though he was only vanilla at that time we began to date. In three weeks time I could not keep my reservations in tact and I had no choice in my own heart, but to get beyond my own notions of time lines and become his 1st sub.
I never in my life thought I'd be with a vanilla man, nor did I ever expect I'd take a brand new Dom. As I'm very edgy in my play and what I want in D/s. I thoguht only a Master with a lot of time and experience can do those things. I had thought prior that was a need in my partner. I know better now.
Sir Rob has shown me play is really irrelevant (though he's doing phenomenally well now Yay!!) and lots of prior experience is not necessary in what I need to be comfortable or happy in a D/s relationship.
Sometimes what we think must be, isn't what we even wanted and we don't know it till the one who is what we need stands before us and elicits the correct response in us. I could not fight myself and not become attached, but rather it just faded into non issues and a huge desire to be his though I was terrified to let any one in again.
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ORIGINAL: darksdesire

I was most certainly not looking for anything of any serious nature when I met my Master.  In fact, I was looking for something decidedly not serious.  From the moment we first chatted however, I felt a sense of familiarity that was both comforting and exciting, and to my dismay, within a few short months, fell head over heels in love. 

Not only was I not looking, I also didn't have much hope that the sort of intimacy and connection I now have was even remotely possible.  If I had been looking, really looking for the "one", my guess is I would have passed him up because he was not the sort of man I have historically hooked up with.   And, well...considering the kind of men I've historically hooked up with, I guess I can only say "thank God."



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