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Wildfleurs -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 8:51:46 AM)

Using fast reply...

Most of the time we use lube when we have anal sex, occasionally we don't use lube or the lubrication from vaginal sex is enough.  But its really hard, rough (and semi-painful) anal sex that gets me to orgasm from it, so no lube contributes to the pain and the orgasm.

C~



daddysprop247 -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 9:14:47 AM)

don't know about pornstars, but i'm guessing that like others have mentioned, the lube is there it's just not seen or filmed, because frankly, if you're trying to get all hot and bothered watching a porn where a guy is pounding some poor girl's bum, then see him pause to get a bottle of lube and gently apply it, it kinda kills the mood. it's the same reason why most porns don't show condoms...just not sexy.

but as far as real life, when my Master uses me anally he rarely uses any lube, and there have been occasions where others have used me without lube as well. i'm no pain slut so the pain is horrific for me, but it makes me feel good inside to suffer for him. afterwards i usually bleed for days, something for a week or more. but eh, such is life.



domiguy -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 9:51:13 AM)

 


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Amaros -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 10:45:32 AM)

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CelticPrince -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 11:20:04 AM)

willingsub,

After reading all replies to this point, I endorse slavejoy with her comments., anal is normally preceeded by a good vaginal workout and thus there is plenty of fem moisture that gathers at the anus. That with the slickness of the cock properly introduced to the rim, [aka slowly at first] will result in the pleasure sought.

CP



CelticPrince -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 11:22:33 AM)

willingsub, now seeing that your a male, hell yes best to use lube.

CP



bluejeanbabee -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 12:13:14 PM)

Luckily for me he perfers me with lube (as that is my preference as well).  I've tried it without and the whole bleeding afterwards wasn't really that fun. 



faye976 -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 12:18:54 PM)

sometimes when you tear you can bleed out into your thoracic cavity and maybe (stess maybe) not even know it until your laying on the bed in the er when it might be too late.



jezzabelle -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 12:19:56 PM)

We rarely if ever use lube during anal sex.  Usually i just get so wet from doing anything anal that my own lubrication from my vagina drips down and wets things once we get going.  It usually doesn't hurt anymore, aside from some mild discomfort, but it's probably just due to the fact that i'm used to it because we do anal quite often.  i'll admit, though, that in the beginning it was the worst pain ever, made me curl up in the fetal position but in time i got used to it.



LotusSong -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 12:35:00 PM)

With me, it all depends on how relaxed I am. I'd say I don't use lube more times than not.
 
What can I say.. it's a gift :)



EnglishBiker -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 12:51:57 PM)

I find it depends. Some women need the lube, others dont. I have no real scientific explanation but clearly those who are more relaxed about it tend to need less or no lube. I would always use a lot of lube on a first timer.



domiguy -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 1:45:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: EnglishBiker

I find it depends. Some women need the lube, others dont. I have no real scientific explanation but clearly those who are more relaxed about it tend to need less or no lube. I would always use a lot of lube on a first timer.


It's true...although I don't have much scientific evidence I would say the women who "do" need lube compared to those who "don't" need lube correlates rather remarkably to the "Domiguy gives a shit logarithm."

out.

D.G,

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akbarbarian -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 2:00:19 PM)

Well here's the RACK version.  I've done anal about every way you could think of.  From lube, to no lube, from my cock (7.75", not bragging just to give perspective), to a 15" flexible super dildo up to the hilt.  Yeah I both gave and took that big sucker, and it's not that big a deal.  For those thinking the ass can't take a bit of abuse or you're going to die or be in the ER, go watch some anal fisting videos and get back to me.

What I love:
The best feeling anal I've had is to go in bone dry w/o even spit or vaginal lube, then fuck for about five minutes till I start getting a little slick, pull out, and do a fast wipe of my cock and her ass with a towel I have handy for the purpose.  Then continue ramming her ass dry.  There is somthing heavenly about reaming an ass that is totally unlubed, even without the natural anal/mucous lube, and feeling it open up to you because you've beaten down the gates so hardcore.  It also seems to have an amazing effect on the sub, because it's very rough treatment and it seems to put her into a subspace of sorts.  The unique friction and feel of skin against skin is also more intense and intimate without the slickness creating a sort of barrier between the bodies.  You really can feel more.  It's like the difference between holding a dry hand, and a slippery hand.  With a dry hand you can feel the texture of the skin better.  It's almost like fucking another hole entirely.

What I'm wondering:
Has anyone successfully done some good anal pounding before the "catcher" relaxes?  I'd love to cause that kind of pain and bruising, but never had a sub properly restrained to do it.  If you've done it, what's it like?  Sure I know you can wait for a couple of mins being slow and the sphyncter will relax but the alternative is sadistically appealing, besides that it would be nice and tight as well.

What I'm contemplating for someday:
Urethral or cervixal intercourse, but perhaps that needs its own thread.



brat4u -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 2:06:18 PM)

Barb U are a sick pup!  The kind i like best!! 



DominaSmartass -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 3:17:48 PM)

In response to the urethral fucking, ever heard of sounds? They can get pretty large...though I'm not sure of the sanitary consequences of using your penis. At least use a condom, but sounds require surgical sterile lube (or at least that's what you're "supposed" to use) so I'd imagine you do run a serious risk of infection by using anything that's not sterile there. By the way, can you elaborate on cervical fucking and what you mean by that? Maybe this does need a new thread. ;)



thetrickpony3 -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 4:26:39 PM)

i find that ALWAYS using a warmed lube when playing anally is the best route both for her enjoyment and mine...besides becoming so slidey is such a turn on!



topcat -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 4:27:59 PM)

I always consider it a toss up for the best lube- tears or blood...



Jauque -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 4:35:43 PM)

wow...and here I thought lube was the way to go.  Granted the best Anal I ever had was without lube.  I thought it was just the heat of the moment sorta thing.  Just got in the moment and took.  Really my first Dom experience too...huh. 

Anyway.  Yhea.  No lube. 

~J



slavegirljoy -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 4:38:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Sangiovese?
quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

The very first time i was fucked in the ass was by my very first Master our very first night together and He used no lubricant, at all.  He did use some very good Italian wine to loosen me up first.

 
It was such a long time ago, i don't really remember, but it was probably either Bardolino or Valpolicella, since those were His two favorites.  i think those are both good wines and they are dry, too.  Plus, He gave me a shot or two of Amaretto afterwards and had Frank Sinatra records playing in the background.  The wine helped, but it was the whole setting that made the mood (and me) relaxed.  In fact, He had my legs in the air and His dick in my ass before i even knew what was happening.  i didn't have time to get worried about it hurting.  By the time i realized i was being fucked in the "other hole", it felt too good to worry about it and i enjoyed it so much i didn't want Him to stop. 
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: akbarbarian
What I love:
The best feeling anal I've had is to go in bone dry w/o even spit or vaginal lube, then fuck for about five minutes till I start getting a little slick, pull out, and do a fast wipe of my cock and her ass with a towel I have handy for the purpose.  Then continue ramming her ass dry.  There is somthing heavenly about reaming an ass that is totally unlubed, even without the natural anal/mucous lube, and feeling it open up to you because you've beaten down the gates so hardcore.  It also seems to have an amazing effect on the sub, because it's very rough treatment and it seems to put her into a subspace of sorts.  The unique friction and feel of skin against skin is also more intense and intimate without the slickness creating a sort of barrier between the bodies.  You really can feel more.  It's like the difference between holding a dry hand, and a slippery hand.  With a dry hand you can feel the texture of the skin better.  It's almost like fucking another hole entirely.
 
THIS senerio sounds wonderful to me.
i have never tried anal with a lubricant so i don't even know what that's like but, i have always had extremely pleasurable experiences getting it up my ass without any lube and i have never had anything bad happen from it.  In fact, i can't even say that it has ever been at all painful.  There is the stretching involved but, it's a good stretch, like a warm-up before running a 10K.  In fact, getting past the stretching point to where He is way deep inside me is kind of like when running and "breaking the wall" and reaching your stride.  That's when it feels the best.
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: bluejeanbabee

Luckily for me he perfers me with lube (as that is my preference as well).  I've tried it without and the whole bleeding afterwards wasn't really that fun. 



i have never had any bleeding from having anal sex without lube.  If that ever happened, it would freak me out.  i just had a colonoscopy done and i had a clean and healthy ass and colon.  If you have never seen the size of the tube they use for that, it is pretty scary looking.  i had no discomfort from it, since i was "knocked out" while it was happening.  Now, i'm good for another 10 years (or 10,000 miles - [;)]).

slave joy
Owned property of Master David



daddysprop247 -> RE: anal? without lube? (1/17/2007 4:57:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: akbarbarian


What I'm wondering:
Has anyone successfully done some good anal pounding before the "catcher" relaxes?  I'd love to cause that kind of pain and bruising, but never had a sub properly restrained to do it.  If you've done it, what's it like?  Sure I know you can wait for a couple of mins being slow and the sphyncter will relax but the alternative is sadistically appealing, besides that it would be nice and tight as well.

What I'm contemplating for someday:
Urethral or cervixal intercourse, but perhaps that needs its own thread.


yes...that's pretty much the only way my Master and i do it, since i seem to be physically incapable of relaxing during anal. He always has to use a great deal of force to penetrate me and a great deal of force to thrust in and out, so brutal pounding is basically mandatory. He has told me that there is no point where my hole even slightly relaxes and "opens up" for him, it's drum tight throughout the process. sometimes this causes him a bit of pain and next day soreness, but he still says he prefers that to my being slick, ready and open. although the first time he noticed i was bleeding for days afterwards, and just how much i was bleeding, he kind of freaked out, but now he's used to it and just sees it as one more way i must suffer for him.

btw, i've never found anal to be physically pleasureable, with my Master or anyone else. i don't get off from pain so i can't imagine it ever feeling good. i'm happy if every once in a while the pain only leaves me sore and in tears, as opposed to lightheaded and nauseous.



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