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LadyEllen -> RE: Racism on Big Brother (UK) (1/19/2007 11:29:03 AM)
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ORIGINAL: bleachedsmiles
You had allready come to the conclusion that the fact they didnt like her was due to her race, and have called them ignorant for such several times, even though you have not viewed the show, neither seen these acts of racism towards Shilpa from them..is this not in itself ignorance?
As for your comment on if you said all races have a certain feature, that would be like me saying all black people have big lips, is that not a form of discimination specifically on a race? you say its only racism if i say that they cant talk properly because of there big lips, but its still generalising a race, which in itself is ignorant.
Also you say that calling another "white trash" is not a form of racism even though the statement is focusing specifically on the colour of ones skin? If i say somebodys asian trash, or black trash, is that just as acceptable? why not just call them trash?
As for your last comment, thats exactly what this is...bullying, not because of her skin, but because of her class, and character, its the people who see the fact that these two people clashing have different coloured skin before anything else are the ones that are shouting racism, and those are generally the ones who havent viewed the program and genrally the ones of the same race as shilpa.
It really does depress me, the fact that people can always play the race card and get there own way and nobody dares question it, this show and the press's reaction to it has mirrored life, and thats very worrying. There were no storys about the racism in the mosques that have finally come fully to light, there was no story about the racist attack on a white kid by 4 asians with a hammer...all this happened the same week as this big brother divide, which was simply a class issue as they resented the fact she's come from a life of servants, and had it been an upper class person from england there would of still of been a divide, but ofcource wouldnt have anything to do with the way the person looked.
bleached. You so widely misunderstand what I'm saying that either my powers of expression have deserted me, or you are wilfully uncomprehending. But I'll try again.
My view is, that Shilpa is being treated that way because such racist treatment is the obvious expression by the others of their jealousy. This is made clear, on page 1 I believe.
As to whether it is racist, well, we have over 30,000 people who have complained, we have sponsors withdrawing and we have police investigations.
I dont watch BB - I find it draining, boring and no longer interesting as an observation into human interaction; I am relying on news reports from the BBC, ITV, Sky, Channel 5 and yes, even Channel 4 itself. The chances of all these stations with their diverse ownerships and perspectives, all reporting the same thing in the same way, are pretty remote, unless of course they are all equally wrong, or heaven forfend, equally accurate.
"White trash" - this is not my term, but was a reference to what had been reported and used in an earlier post. My description is "ignorant scum", which as you'll notice contains no reference to any racial descriptor.
And yes, I am aware that all too often the law is unequally applied, and the race card is played in circumstances that are damaging to the whole of society. But here's the thing - we are all members of society and we all have a voice. If we lack the courage to stand up and call foul and put things right, then we have no right to complain.
Lastly, you may have heard about the recent sentencing of several Asian men who abducted a boy and murdered him in the most sadistic ways imaginable - it was up in Scotland. The Asian men got very heavy sentences because of the clear racist motivations for their crime. I would therefore suggest, that the law does work all ways, and it is only for lack of evidence by way of witness testimony, that more such cases are not prosecuted and proven - and that again comes down to the lack of courage inherent in our population.
And, I will repeat it, because I get the impression perhaps wrongly that you think me a racist; I dont care one jot about someone's race, sexuality, religion, gender, age or whatever, except as interesting facts about them. I judge by words and deeds alone. The only discrimination I will confess to, is elitism and that is no bad thing, since it appeals to the highest possible values, not the lowest common denominator.
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