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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/19/2007 7:31:34 PM   
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I think the ignorance in his statement is fairly obvious....


Since you are the fountain of knowledge, maybe you would like to enlighten the rest of us?  The comment about the French?  The fact that they are a bunch of chicken shits that have run from every adversity for the last several decades and are apparently more worried about their stomachs than the welfare of other nations?  I fail to see the ignorance in truth.

The fact that the Chinese have been taking out US spy satellites?  Tough shit, it is a reality.  Catch up on your news if you are ignorant to the facts.

Or was it something else?

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/19/2007 7:59:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Given most their recent history in that corner of the world, the French & Germans would love Iran to get nuked, it would be a chance to sell them all the technology again.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/19/2007 8:26:41 PM   
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After googling this topic - it appears that this story is incorrect. According to other news sources such as the Sunday Times, Israel is considering a conventional strike on Iranian nuclear facilities - the facilities that may be involved in making nuclear weapons, to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
Okay I can see this article being wrong in Israel planning on using conventional weapons to knock out facilities versus nuclear..

But can anyone confirm this account actually did not occur on 01/07 or give different news that they were turned back but did not carry nuclear?

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 1:48:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

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ORIGINAL: Missterri26L

I think the ignorance in his statement is fairly obvious....

The comment about the French?  The fact that they are a bunch of chicken shits that have run from every adversity for the last several decades and are apparently more worried about their stomachs than the welfare of other nations? 


You appear to be confusing facts with opinions.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:07:05 PM   
SirKenin


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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

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ORIGINAL: Missterri26L

I think the ignorance in his statement is fairly obvious....

The comment about the French?  The fact that they are a bunch of chicken shits that have run from every adversity for the last several decades and are apparently more worried about their stomachs than the welfare of other nations? 


You appear to be confusing facts with opinions.



What have they NOT run from since WW2?  One major conflict please, with sources.

How about all the conflicts they HAVE been in..  And got their asses handed to them in every single one of them.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html



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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:17:05 PM   
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Okay I can see this article being wrong in Israel planning on using conventional weapons to knock out facilities versus nuclear..

But can anyone confirm this account actually did not occur on 01/07 or give different news that they were turned back but did not carry nuclear?



Israel will do nothing without US approval, however when they do do something you can bet your life the US will deny they approved.

Britain has already had a run in with this administration about not providing codes for planes Britain bought so we all know nothing happens without US approval.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:18:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

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ORIGINAL: basicinsight

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Missterri26L

I think the ignorance in his statement is fairly obvious....

The comment about the French?  The fact that they are a bunch of chicken shits that have run from every adversity for the last several decades and are apparently more worried about their stomachs than the welfare of other nations? 


You appear to be confusing facts with opinions.



What have they NOT run from since WW2?  One major conflict please, with sources.

How about all the conflicts they HAVE been in..  And got their asses handed to them in every single one of them.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html



It's like playground "got their asses handed to them". How old are you?

France fought so many wars over 400 years they realised before most that it was a whole load of bollocks. Still, a German Army that was trained to the hilt couldn't break the French in WW1. Know your history.

Tell you what, while the British and Canadians were stuggling in their sectors of the Somme the French were breaking through German lines so make of that what you will.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:29:56 PM   
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Tell you what, while the British and Canadians were stuggling in their sectors of the Somme the French were breaking through German lines so make of that what you will.


It was the British that formed the tactics that pushed back the Germans. Despite the popular belief that the British army was badly led it was the British army that had a series of victories over the Germans and it was they that did to the German army what the Russians did in WWII. WWI saw the most decisive victories in British military history.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:38:35 PM   
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If memory serves there is land beneth the antartic, plus theres a treaty between 12 of the major courtries stating no military pressence. Although heating bill might be high. Lol :-)


Not after Global Warming kicks in.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:40:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

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ORIGINAL: basicinsight

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Missterri26L

I think the ignorance in his statement is fairly obvious....

The comment about the French?  The fact that they are a bunch of chicken shits that have run from every adversity for the last several decades and are apparently more worried about their stomachs than the welfare of other nations? 


You appear to be confusing facts with opinions.



What have they NOT run from since WW2?  One major conflict please, with sources.

How about all the conflicts they HAVE been in..  And got their asses handed to them in every single one of them.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html




I thought France defeated Greenpeace a few years ago.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:47:38 PM   
SirKenin


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ORIGINAL: SinergyI thought France defeated Greenpeace a few years ago.

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lol.    Nice.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:48:12 PM   
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Tell you what, while the British and Canadians were stuggling in their sectors of the Somme the French were breaking through German lines so make of that what you will.


It was the British that formed the tactics that pushed back the Germans. Despite the popular belief that the British army was badly led it was the British army that had a series of victories over the Germans and it was they that did to the German army what the Russians did in WWII. WWI saw the most decisive victories in British military history.


While the British and the Canadinas were bogged down at the Somme the French broke through.

The difference was this: the British and Canadians were rigid in their military strategy - bombard the Germans lines from long range, stop the bombardment, wait and run. By the time they got out of their trenches the Germans were sat waiting with all sorts of machinery

The French were less rigid. They bombarded on a short term range and as soon as the guns stopped were out and at them - consolidtaed a few hundred yards and then bombarded again and so on.

Plus, between 1914 and 1916 the French more or less fought the war on their own and stilll did the most damage on the Somme in 1916. This is the problem with the British Empire - greatness in the mind.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:52:20 PM   
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Tell you what, while the British and Canadians were stuggling in their sectors of the Somme the French were breaking through German lines so make of that what you will.


It was the British that formed the tactics that pushed back the Germans. Despite the popular belief that the British army was badly led it was the British army that had a series of victories over the Germans and it was they that did to the German army what the Russians did in WWII. WWI saw the most decisive victories in British military history.


Aye...  And I have nothing but respect for the British military.  Indeed, same goes with the awesome might of the Israeli and US militaries.  Our frigates and Elite Forces are still the best though.  Even our main rifle, the C7, spanks the M16 silly.  We *do* have some cool toys.

Bush should have promised the French frog's legs and cigarettes.  Maybe then they would have marched into Iraq like everyone else.  Even Canada went to Iraq (and Afghanistan for that matter).

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 5:55:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow.  A country of, what, 60 million, defeated a bunch of tofu eating tree huggers too scared to kill an animal.

I am shocked.  I thought Greenpeace had more pride than to just take that.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 6:03:58 PM   
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Tell you what, while the British and Canadians were stuggling in their sectors of the Somme the French were breaking through German lines so make of that what you will.


It was the British that formed the tactics that pushed back the Germans. Despite the popular belief that the British army was badly led it was the British army that had a series of victories over the Germans and it was they that did to the German army what the Russians did in WWII. WWI saw the most decisive victories in British military history.


While the British and the Canadinas were bogged down at the Somme the French broke through.

The difference was this: the British and Canadians were rigid in their military strategy - bombard the Germans lines from long range, stop the bombardment, wait and run. By the time they got out of their trenches the Germans were sat waiting with all sorts of machinery

The French were less rigid. They bombarded on a short term range and as soon as the guns stopped were out and at them - consolidtaed a few hundred yards and then bombarded again and so on.

Plus, between 1914 and 1916 the French more or less fought the war on their own and stilll did the most damage on the Somme in 1916. This is the problem with the British Empire - greatness in the mind.


You really ought to reread your history of WWI, you are just showing your ignorance of British achievements in WWI. You are spouting the anti-war propaganda that circulated Britain in the 20s and took hold as national myth.

I can't be bothered googling too much, it is 3.00am here but here is a BBC link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1998/10/98/world_war_i/197586.stm

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 6:06:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		What? so where are the achievements of 1914-1916 and the Somme? Point them out.

< Message edited by NorthernGent -- 1/20/2007 6:07:46 PM >

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 6:11:32 PM   
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What? so where are the achievements of 1914-1916 and the Somme? Point them out.


Aah! So you don't mind British defeats and set backs because they reinforce your prejudice of the British establishment but you can't face any success that might be given to them. The successes of 1917-18 were also successes of the rank and file and you should be ashamed to dismiss their blood and guts because you are prejudiced against the men that led them.

Oh! And aren't you supposed to be the historian?

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 6:12:17 PM   
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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 6:19:35 PM   
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What? so where are the achievements of 1914-1916 and the Somme? Point them out.


Aah! So you don't mind British defeats and set backs because they reinforce your prejudice of the British establishment but you can't face any success that might be given to them. The successes of 1917-18 were also successes of the rank and file and you should be ashamed to dismiss their blood and guts because you are prejudiced against the men that led them.

Oh! And aren't you supposed to be the historian?


Have a look back at the post you replied to me and then come back.

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RE: the shi* is hitting the fan - 1/20/2007 6:22:52 PM   
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I guess we really should not be too hard on the French.  They really do make a fantastic Pate de Lapin.


Yeah.  Besides, they had to defeat the farmed bunny to make it, after all.

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