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Expert? - 1/19/2007 5:55:59 PM   
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There is something I have been seeing alot of recently, self proclaimed experts in several even unqualified catagories. I know we can all claim to be experts in Flea Markets and Ren Fairs but that isn't something that I can see even bothering to mark. How about those claiming to be experts in the bdsm lifestyle?? Just that alone is an impossiblity. When I see someone that is 21 and an "expert" in Nanotechnology, Archaeology, Museums, Hypnosis, Knife play and is a professional chef, I begin to doubt not only their truthfullness but also their perception of themselves. I know at least 4 people will chime in with age is not a predictor of experience or knowledge but in this example I disagree. I think it really cheapens the actual expert that paid their dues to claim that right. What defines someone as an expert in spankings??

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:07:11 PM   
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i agree with you, especially since it is not required that you list your experience. So for an item like museums, you just list how well you like them but you don't need to state your expertise. As far as BDSM activities, i think for some it is an ego thing to list themselves as an expert which does dilute the significance of the degree of experience for those that truly are...

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:17:03 PM   
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I generally find the claims of being an "expert" almost laughable at times

I haven't met any experts... but I have met a few very knowledgable individuals in a particular area.    But, I suppose what I enjoy with some individuals not only their knowledge... but the humility in sharing this knowledge.

Knowledge and Humility... a nice combo if you ask me.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:19:40 PM   
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I am an expert at smoking out online liars.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:21:53 PM   
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When I first began filling out my profile I put expert accidently in several places... and did not take the time to change it... one such place was when i put "expert" in hunting, and it is a hard limit...lol

I went in and changed it. I have some expertise in actual archaeology though having spent a few years getting a degree in anthropology.. but only California archaelogy, which is different from other types. I am not really even an expert in that as I have not led a team yet, even though supposedly I am "qualified" to

Edited to add, my Daddy is an expert spanker, what qualifies me to say that? I find his spankings very expert indeed

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:22:37 PM   
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What defines someone as an expert in spankings??


Being a published author in the field of spankology holds great esteem in my eyes.

Some folks my have more specialized fields like:

spanking over the knee, paddles, floggers, whips, pretty panties, bare bottoms, naughty schoolgirls/boys, stern mistresses, Master/slave, erotic punishment, hand spanking, sore asses, teasing, taunting, and other spanking arts ---- just to name a few.

My humble suggestion is to avoid anyone brandishing a fiberglass cane, even if they claim to be a spanking expert. Its just too damn unforgiving.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:30:13 PM   
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What defines someone as an expert in spankings??


i meant to comment on this in my earlier post ^_^ it made me chuckle!
 
i have been the "canvas" for a spanking artist...and as he admired his handiwork, he made some coments about HIS "expertise"  LOL!!!!

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:31:14 PM   
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I put that I'm an expert at cooking on my profile, not because of formal training, but because I'm a damned good cook and happen to love cooking.    

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:34:57 PM   
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I can't wait until I'm an expert at 'sitcoms' and 'romance novels'.
I've been practicing.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:36:53 PM   
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quote:

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What defines someone as an expert in spankings??


i meant to comment on this in my earlier post ^_^ it made me chuckle!
 
i have been the "canvas" for a spanking artist...and as he admired his handiwork, he made some coments about HIS "expertise"  LOL!!!!


If I had to listen to a running commentary of how they are so expertly working my ass I would more than likely laugh, it might kill it for me.

I totally acknowledge that we can indeed be experts at many things, we all have lives and experience. I just see so many people using this in a slap dash manner.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:38:58 PM   
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I don't hold authors in any higher regard than anyone else based on their ability to find a publisher alone. I mean look at how much garbage John Lange got published! Keith Newman wrote what is arguably the worst book ever written, 250 Times I Saw a Play. Doesn't make him an expert on the play. Just means that he found a publisher.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:43:54 PM   
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I can't wait until I'm an expert at 'sitcoms' and 'romance novels'.
I've been practicing.


Ah romance novels (sigh).  I can remember reading Kathleen Woodiwiss in high school and thinking how dreamy it would be to have a big, strong man take control of me and ravage me. 

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:45:25 PM   
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In lots of cases I hope I don't become an expert in any choosen BDSM field, because then that means I can't experiment anymore and enjoy the experiments ;)

However I would say I am advanced in lipreading for example.

Plus I think I have a natural advantage in speech restriction play ;)


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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:47:41 PM   
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Well, I had to go back and check my profile-- I knew that I had listed a few things that I felt I am an expert in-- sure enough, I had.  I am an expert at beachcombing (I grew up on the beach and spent many an hour beachcombing), I am an expert in getting massages (yup, I can lay there like the best of 'em), I am an expert at coffee shops (I do love a nice mocha latte`), and yes-- I am an expert at Reiki (been a Master/Teacher for more than 10 years).  I also feel that I am an expert at role playing--- majored in theater arts my first go-round in college and law my second time.

As far as the other stuff--- I'll keep practicing until the cows fly home.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 6:50:41 PM   
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i have been the "canvas" for a spanking artist...and as he admired his handiwork, he made some coments about HIS "expertise"  LOL!!!!


I've learned that you can err in the opposite direction also.  Note to novice Doms; do not refer openly to your sub as a "test subject."  If something you do gets rewarded with a jump and a yelp, it's better to say something like "Liked that, did you?" than "Hmmm, that was interesting.  Let's try that again..."

Not that I'll take my own advice, I suppose.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 7:00:26 PM   
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I can't wait until I'm an expert at 'sitcoms' and 'romance novels'.
I've been practicing.


So if you used to be proud of your tits cause they we so pert, and now you're proud of them for, let's say, their range of motion, would that qualify you as ex-pert on tits?

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 7:00:29 PM   
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It is possible that someone started at 18 seeing a Dom and became an expert at getting spankings and from that experience can now base what a light spanking is compared to a heavy spanking etc.

I think experience(either getting spanked or giving) can make you an expert.
I am an expert in many things because I have done lots of things lots of times.
All experts are not the same either...look at all the experts on oh say child rearing for one.
It is possible to be an expert at OTK spankings compared to bend over and hold the ankles spanking.

If your not an expert yet just keep spanking away eventually you will be...hehehe

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 7:07:26 PM   
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I can't wait until I'm an expert at 'sitcoms' and 'romance novels'.
I've been practicing.


So if you used to be proud of your tits cause they we so pert, and now you're proud of them for, let's say, their range of motion, would that qualify you as ex-pert on tits?


But of course.

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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 7:10:03 PM   
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RE: Expert? - 1/19/2007 7:11:58 PM   
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Well, I do not know how most people define themselves as an expert.
And I agree with a novelist that just because they found a publisher does not make them an expert. I now have two books published and that certainly does not make me an expert writer. I claim an expert at writing based off the reviews of my book from both the professional reviewers and the readers.
The others that I claim expert at are things I have been doing for more than ten years, and in some cases for more than 20 years. In some cases I would rather not have even admitted I was an expert in knowledge on some of the items... lol... Role-Playing-Games for example. I began playing Dungeons and Dragons before it was called Advanced Dungeons and Dragons and was available in a single box smaller than a cereal box with three books all smaller than comic books, it came with one of each kind of die, and the corners of the die all broke off within a few weeks because the plastic had not been perfected yet. It also came with a notepad and a pencil. There were no character sheet designs yet.
I also played just about every new form of roleplaying game that became available, many no longer even exist. Tunnels and Trolls, ElfQuest, and many more. One, I cannot even remember the name had Ducks as the primary species of player character. There was another based on Michael Moorcock's Stormbringer series, and a lot more. So I think I can claim expert on RRG's.
Chatting, I began back when you had local BBS's and had to log onto the internet through a college connection. So I can claim expert on that.
However, most other things I claimed average or beginner on even when I might be able to claim higher than that because as far as I am concerned I still have a lot to learn even though I may have five or seven or ten years of experience, I just have not had enough consistent experience to claim anything higher, and in the lifestyle I do not feel you can truly claim an expert in anything easily, until you have truly mastered all their is to know about something, or most of it.
So claiming to be an expert in spanking, you had better know at least 75% of every instrument to be used and have one in your possession, know how to use it in almost every possible way, and every possible position. Not just OTK, but in stocks, strapped over benches, and bedboards, and many other ways. Kneeling, standing, on St. Andrew's Crosses, while suspended, etc.. hundreds of positions, hundreds of methods, and to claim expert you should have at least done 75% of all possible ways and know the rest.
I do not think it is probable to claim expert in a lifestyle activity at a young age for you just do not have the experience to even know all the possibilities that that activity has available to you at that age, there is too much to study and learn and it takes a great deal of time and effort to become expert in that field. I am not saying it is impossible. There are savants in any field of study, why not BDSM activities too, just it is unlikely.

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