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Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 2:38:43 AM

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Big Health Risk is hiding in Makeup, LotionsConsumer Reports Health risksHealth risksseriously- I swear at some point in time- every dam thing we use or eatwill show up on some study-research as harmful/healthrisk Do you want to know every single report or do you think that it is a bit out of hand to much?

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 3:42:45 AM

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I suspect food additives may be dangerous but they are present in almost every supermarket food. What can you do ?

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 4:02:07 AM

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I recall this anecdote: To demonstrate to the public that all objects are radioactive, scientists in a British lab during a demonstration held a Geiger counter next to an ordinary tea-bag. The instrument made a lot of noise - more than expected. This small bag of tea would never be used to make a pot of tea: the regulations required that it must be treated as light radioactive nuclear waste.

How much tea do you drink?

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 4:35:46 AM

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Many synthetic materials such as adhesives in wood and plastic laminates in modern buildings have toxins that are released over periods. If your home was built in the last 40 years you are living surrounded by potential hazards. In fact our whole modern environment is full of toxins and pollutants that are supposed to be inert in materials but over time aren't. Hell, what about traffic pollutants, they aren't even inert for a short time bu6t people happily breath them in all day while complaining about smokers in a bar two miles away.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 6:13:48 AM

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I tend to think that there are too many chemicals and they are used without living up to their purpose.

Take pesticides, the pests they fight get immune from them, the more they use, the more they need to use. They are poisons basically. In one of my interdisciplary courses we studied human impacts on environment, and when one starts finding that these chemicals bio-accumulate (they do not leave the body as fast as they enter), that they do not know what some chemicals do in the body once they have accumulated in the human body together (they do not study that) it is scary

Consider this: Cancer deaths are up from 50 years ago even though we have more ways of treating cancer successfully... we are doing something very wrong if you ask me. I do not obsess about these things, because many I have no control over, but some I do. When I can control something in my environment, I try to take advantage of that. I tend to use natural soaps and deodorants, cleaners, organic food. Of course there is no way to prevent all toxicity in our personal space, but we CAN reduce it drastically by informing ourselves about what is in our food, on our food, in our cosmetics and household cleaners.. and by considering natural pest control methods

Just my thoughts on it.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 7:24:57 AM

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In the end it really doesn't matter what we are ingesting. We cannot stop it. Even organic food has herbicides built in.
While talking to a farmer the other day I found no pesticides are needed for the most part anymore while growing. They simply develop the seed with herbicide added so no bugs bother it while the produce is growing.
As we become more intellectual as a world we will find out everything is killing us.
Just at varying degrees.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 7:41:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I suspect food additives may be dangerous but they are present in almost every supermarket food. What can you do ?

Things People Can Do

1) Learn to cook.

2) Avoid eating prepared foods.

3) Purchase fresh produce at farmer's markets.

4) Kill and butcher Bambi.

5) Read ingredients on things you like, purchase those ingredients you want in your food, make the food yourself.

The list goes on.

The more you allow other people to prepare the food you eat, the more likely you will be to be eating additives those other people put in things.

Sinergy

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 8:21:19 AM

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quote:

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In the end it really doesn't matter what we are ingesting. We cannot stop it. Even organic food has herbicides built in.
While talking to a farmer the other day I found no pesticides are needed for the most part anymore while growing. They simply develop the seed with herbicide added so no bugs bother it while the produce is growing.
As we become more intellectual as a world we will find out everything is killing us.
Just at varying degrees.

Foods labeled "Certified Organic" are 95% pesticide free. Foods labeled "100% Organic" are not only completely free of pesticides (and the earth they are grown on has been pesticide free for years), but are also non-GMO.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 12:21:45 PM

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And there are more places now where you can buy organic food. I know Trader Joe's isn't everywhere in the US yet, but there are other smaller chains, I'm sure.

*munches on organic chocolate chip cookies*

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 1:18:14 PM

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Foods labeled "Certified Organic" are 95% pesticide free. Foods labeled "100% Organic" are not only completely free of pesticides (and the earth they are grown on has been pesticide free for years), but are also non-GMO.

As I learned the other day there is a difference between a herbicide infused within the seed and a pesticide that is put on while something is growing.
I believed the same until I went to the farm show the other day.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 2:12:44 PM

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A couple problems with organic foods:

Even pro-organic food sites on the web will tell you that prepared organic foods like breads, cereals, cookies, canned goods - aren't worth spending the extra money on. The processing negates any extra benefits they might have previously had.

Organic produce often has significantly higher levels of bacteria (like E. coli and others) than does conventionally grown food. People don't die of trace pesticides in produce. People do die of bacterial infections like E. coli.

According to the US Department of Agriculture (www.usda.gov) organic foods do not offer any significant increase in health benefits or nutritional benefits over conventionally grown foods.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 2:27:30 PM

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quote:

As we become more intellectual as a world we will find out everything is killing us.

I agree- I am so tired of turning on the Tv or opening a newspaper and there is another (insert whatever here - it will be soon enough) hazzard- health risk.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 2:37:02 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I suspect food additives may be dangerous but they are present in almost every supermarket food. What can you do ?

Things People Can Do

1) Learn to cook.
2) Avoid eating prepared foods.
3) Purchase fresh produce at farmer's markets.
4) Kill and butcher Bambi.
5) Read ingredients on things you like, purchase those ingredients you want in your food, make the food yourself.
The list goes on.
The more you allow other people to prepare the food you eat, the more likely you will be to be eating additives those other people put in things.
Sinergy

Sensible response but item 4 I could never do. I would sooner eat completely synthetic meat.
This very day I found a big bird, a Crow or a Rook not sure which flat out in my front garden.. I picked him up and have taken him to vet. He wasn't a bit grateful and tried to peck me. Will find out tomorrow what happened to him.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 2:41:51 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

Foods labeled "Certified Organic" are 95% pesticide free. Foods labeled "100% Organic" are not only completely free of pesticides (and the earth they are grown on has been pesticide free for years), but are also non-GMO.

As I learned the other day there is a difference between a herbicide infused within the seed and a pesticide that is put on while something is growing.
I believed the same until I went to the farm show the other day.

This explains why I've been seeing organic vegetable and herb seeds lately.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 3:52:22 PM

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Organic food has far more carcenogens on them than non-organic food, the difference is, the carcenogens on organic food are, well......organic.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 4:00:11 PM

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Also, organic food is bad for the environment. Yup, thats right, its bad. It takes far more land area to produce the same amount of organic crops than non-organic. More land for food= less land for rainforests.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 4:31:58 PM

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Big Health Risk is hiding in Makeup, LotionsConsumer Reports Health risksHealth risksseriously- I swear at some point in time- every dam thing we use or eatwill show up on some study-research as harmful/healthrisk Do you want to know every single report or do you think that it is a bit out of hand to much?

There's no need to read every single report. Most of us already know that we should be eating 100% organic food whenever possible, and using organic cleaning and personal products.

Yes, it takes more land to grow organic. That's a main reason why we pay more for organic food. Bad for the environment? Well... maybe when more farmers grow organic, urban sprawl will be reduced. That could be good for the environment.

Also, how is spraying tons of man-made chemical pesticides on farm fields good for the environment?

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 5:02:39 PM

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There aren't many prepared foods that don't contain some kind of additive, preservative, coloring, etc., today, or even 25 years ago. One of my unmentionables, at about the age of 3 or so started to act up, down, around -- lol!! There were even some things (like red food coloring) that made him "drunk." As a parent it was a scary place to be, because of things that are added to our foods. Some wanted him placed on meds, but instead i decided to take control over what he (and the rest of us) ate. Literally everything we ate was cooked from scratch. That didn't always fix the problem, and it was something we had to be on guard over -- ie white cheese could be used but not any cheese that was yellow. We ate lots of fresh fruits and veggies, freezing what i could for use in the winter, gorging on what i couldn't when it was in season.

i had another one who was extremely allergic to milk and the milk protein. Did you know that non-dairy cool whip contains that protein? i didn't either until we had to deal with the results and i looked a little closer at the label.

Now, years later and alone, i have to confess that my own diet stinks. Maybe it was all those years of healthy eatting..lol.. but that's where i am.

We're all products of and victims of our environment -- but with a little self-education we can make our corner of the world a little better.

Now, where is that McDonald's coupon???? LOL!!

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I suspect food additives may be dangerous but they are present in almost every supermarket food. What can you do ?

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 9:32:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I suspect food additives may be dangerous but they are present in almost every supermarket food. What can you do ?

Things People Can Do

1) Learn to cook.

2) Avoid eating prepared foods.

3) Purchase fresh produce at farmer's markets.

4) Kill and butcher Bambi.

5) Read ingredients on things you like, purchase those ingredients you want in your food, make the food yourself.

The list goes on.

The more you allow other people to prepare the food you eat, the more likely you will be to be eating additives those other people put in things.

Sinergy

Except that Bambi has been gnoshing on the herbicide-infused grains! Uh-oh!!

But seriously, I stopped listening to all of the "beware" reports when I was on my honeymoon in 1987. A report came over the radio informing me that coloured toilet paper can cause rectal cancer. That was it for me! I don't listen anymore.

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/22/2007 9:47:38 PM

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I truly don't worry much about the safety of food. It might not be perfect but it is a lot better than it has been for virtually all of mankind's history.

Want to be truly frightened by what you are involuntarily ingesting? Ever wonder where the rubber/etc. that makes up the tires on your car and all those other vehicles goes? A lot of it goes into the air. A study in the L.A. basin back in the 1980's indicated that more than 5 tons of breathable 'tire dust' were added to the air each day.

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