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Accepting Authority? - 3/2/2005 1:33:42 PM   
willing2serve


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Please someone give me some insight and wisdom as to why a Master/Mistress would want to accept full responsibility, authority and control over a submissive/slave?

IMHO, this is a HUGE step and task to undertake for the Dominant and much respect would be due.

Respectfully,
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RE: Accepting Authority? - 3/2/2005 2:51:23 PM   
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I find that it fulfills Me. Completes Me. It's an extension of Myself.

I also find an intense satisfaction at taking My pet to the next level. Of making her blossom like a flower. her happiness and personal growth are more than enough reward for Me.

As for S&M, that's pretty simple. It gives Me a hardon flogging and spanking My pet, or whatever else I decide to do to her. she gets satisfaction by being taken into a subspace, and again I feel complete. Satisfying My pet satisfies Me.

W/we both win.

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RE: Accepting Authority? - 3/2/2005 3:03:03 PM   
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willing2serve1...

As with so many topics and questions I read here, there is no one single answer as to why a dominant would accept that authority over another.

Some accept that challenge....others do not. Some choose to commit and others choose to play without the total committment. Neither side is right or wrong.

Here's my side....

For me, being dominant is in my core. I can look back and see that it has always been a part of me. A portion of that is a desire deep within me to be dominant over another, totally and completely. I don't enjoy playing for an hour or a day. I desire it all.

I agree, it is a HUGE responsibility. It takes a lot of work and time and dedication when you make a committment like that. Opening your life to admit another always does and there is no guarentee that it will be a sucessful union. It is definitely not something to be rushed into and it is certainly not something to be taken lightly.

But, it's THE most enjoyable feeling, when it is right.

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RE: Accepting Authority? - 3/2/2005 3:14:15 PM   
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quote:

why a Master/Mistress would want to accept full responsibility, authority and control over a submissive/slave?


willing,

Damn GOOD question! Why the hell did I?!

Not hard to understand why after an hour of you posting this, no ones yet responded. It requires thought, self awareness, and ultimately self assessment. Wow, lets see, soul searching at 3:00 PM on a "hump-day".

The flippant response.....because I can, but there is truth in that answer.

First, I think it's the ultimate selfish pursuit. You know what you want. In life, in lust, and dare I say, in love. You don't trust anyone else to know you well enough to give it to you on their own. You've thought it through, had relationship experiences under someone else's definitions of what's "right" and found "right" - WRONG. Then you were lucky enough to become aware of another way.

You discovered an alternative "lifestyle". Of course that's today's word. Back in my formative years - you just met 'kinky' folk. Within that group though there was a different level. A level where the 'kink' didn't end at the end of the night. A level that the relationship between the two (or more) people that transcended the physical or the sensation of kinky play.

You were lucky enough and, being from NYC, aggressive enough to go to those people and ask; "what is it you guys do?" After talking, hanging around, and absorbing you realize that they have an all encompassing relationship, based on discipline, rules, rituals, and protocol. Where there was no doubt on how to act and how to live. There was a simple choice for the participants, live or leave. You then found out that this was achieved with a very simple tool - TRUST. It was the simplest form of trust. Represent who you are, allow another person to be a part of what you need, have a common goal, and work on that goal every day.

I knew that's what I wanted. About the time what I was doing evolved into be called a "lifestyle", the person that I sought was labeled a slave, very different from the people I 'played' with hence called submissives. The difference is as clear now as it was then. You partied as a sub, you lived it as a slave.

I wanted a slave because I knew it was the person who best represented the goal I had for a relationship. I "can" and do have one now, because I found someone who shared those ideas. I can afford it, because in my "customized" slave definition accessory, MY slave's one job is serving me, meaning no other Masters - business or personal are allowed in her life. And I don't lend her out on a temp basis either.

Ultimately though it comes back to being selfish, self indulgent, and most important confident. Confident that what you wish you had is really what you want. Because you also get a responsibility. You get a commitment. With a slave you also have consistency. You know the ultimate responsibly for your happiness resides in you. I wanted that as a goal for living my life. It's a GREAT way to live!

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RE: Accepting Authority? - 3/2/2005 3:31:13 PM   
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The simple purest answer no bullshit is I must.

Lots of masters and mistresses have big nurturing streaks in them right alongside their need for control. Not all just a lot. I don't want to own someone who is static decaying or not sensually involved with life. They must grow right along with me and they must do it the way i want.

Merc and beth hit another perfect note as they so often seem to do. Confidence. For gods sakes I already think I am good enough to own you. Of course I think Im good enough to shape your life into my own vision and believe you will be better off for it. The trick is knowing the difference between arrogance and confidence.

Alex.

Its good to remember when we talk about 'ownership' that almost every single ownership begins with a series of meetings which arent full ownership. Everythings being built on top of the next thing.

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RE: Accepting Authority? - 3/2/2005 5:01:36 PM   
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I'm not perfect but I know that I'm responsible and am able to care for myself and another. However, I know there are those who can do the same with a little dicipline. For now I'll call it a gift to lead others into bettering themselves. When I push others to do better it also encourages me to push and better myself.

I like being incontrol. I'm a natural born leader. As for wanting a submissive, I don't want her to be a total Dudtz. Pet is very smart and is already back in school going for a paralegal certification. She just needs my belt to help her study and continue to diet right and exercise.
After all I like to encourage and not force someone do something they don't want to do. I've been down that route and don't want to go there again. I will never again force ppl to better themselves. Just encourage when they are ready to do something with themself.







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RE: Accepting Authority? - 3/2/2005 5:28:49 PM   
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quote:

SirKenin
I find that it fulfills Me. Completes Me. It's an extension of Myself.

I also find an intense satisfaction at taking My pet to the next level. Of making her blossom like a flower. her happiness and personal growth are more than enough reward for Me.

tomtom1877
I agree, it is a HUGE responsibility. It takes a lot of work and time and dedication when you make a committment like that. Opening your life to admit another always does and there is no guarentee that it will be a sucessful union. It is definitely not something to be rushed into and it is certainly not something to be taken lightly.

But, it's THE most enjoyable feeling, when it is right.

Mercnbeth
Confident that what you wish you had is really what you want. Because you also get a responsibility. You get a commitment. With a slave you also have consistency. You know the ultimate responsibly for your happiness resides in you. I wanted that as a goal for living my life. It's a GREAT way to live!

Alexander
I don't want to own someone who is static decaying or not sensually involved with life. They must grow right along with me and they must do it the way i want.

Merc and beth hit another perfect note as they so often seem to do. Confidence. For gods sakes I already think I am good enough to own you. Of course I think Im good enough to shape your life into my own vision and believe you will be better off for it. The trick is knowing the difference between arrogance and confidence.

FangsNfeet
For now I'll call it a gift to lead others into bettering themselves. When I push others to do better it also encourages me to push and better myself.


I want to say a sincere thank you for your insightful answers. I am learning many great things on my submissive journey searching for the slave within. It truly helps me to understand the motivation of the Dominant that is aware of the responsibilities.

Respectfully,
Willing2serve1


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RE: Accepting Authority? - 3/5/2005 5:18:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: willing2serve

Please someone give me some insight and wisdom as to why a Master/Mistress would want to accept full responsibility, authority and control over a submissive/slave?

IMHO, this is a HUGE step and task to undertake for the Dominant and much respect would be due.

Respectfully,
Willing2serve1




I have some issue with the absolute nature of your statement - as nothing is completely "something" - and, that includes responsibility and/or control and/or authority over another human being despite the rhetoric that might be tossed at it (a bit of a reality check there) -

But, a better question is "Why not?"

We all accept these sort of things in varying ways... some people for the simple reason that it is (in their mind) "power" (define that for yourself - as I have no idea why they would believe this, or, what it would mean). Some people do it for the sake of their personal desires... some people do it because it simply is "what they do"...

All in all - it is a very introspective thing that (should I desire to expound upon why it is not an issue for myself or a hinderance) would appear to be brash bragging or callous discord.

Simply put for myself - ... if one is not afraid of the responsibility and willing to do it... there is no issue as to why one would not do it for themselves?

~J

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