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TwoSeekOne -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 11:36:18 AM)

Hmmm... I guess the lessons I've learned here are: Everyone who doesn't approach the lifestyle EXACTLY the same way as I do is doing in wrong. If you have been in the lifestyle less than me, you are a newbie and I am your 'old guard'.  If you have been in the lifestyle longer than me, I am modern and refined and you are just plain 'old' and probably doing it wrong too. [:D]

BTW, my life-in slave is a slut and damn proud of it too. Those who've met her know she has the most unique tattoo on her lower back that proudly spells "SLUT". So don't go treating slut as an insult... [>:]




Nosathro -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 11:50:29 AM)

I have to admit that when I was in high school i did have a trouble dating.  After all try and find a girl back then that was willing to let you tie her up on the first was diffcult.  I never referred to any girl then or now as a slut.  Except if she wanted that. 
 
Be Well
 
Nosathro




MaryT -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 3:11:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

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ORIGINAL: RedSavageSlave

Ima just sitting here grinning and thinking..."Aint he cute?"  [:D]


he is actually isnt he?  I think he should put up some more pics on his profile.



He is charmingly unapologetic in his domliness.  Maybe we should start a fan club.

MaryT




MaryT -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 3:14:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TwoSeekOne

BTW, my life-in slave is a slut and damn proud of it too.


I had a male instructor today lecture on the power of language and how calling a women a slut can make her become one.  He meant it as a bad thing.  I wasn't brave enough to open the topic of reclaiming language and the equivalent of "slut" as it pertains to males.  [:(]

MaryT




bandit25 -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 3:22:53 PM)

I agree with LA.  I've noticed that many of his posts have been increasingly negative, but I just figured he needed to rant so whatever.  Gee, it's too bad I have the winning lottery ticket in my pocket and unrealistic expectations!  LOL!

Sorry, Michael, couldn't resist!




MaryT -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 3:30:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Gee, it's too bad I have the winning lottery ticket in my pocket and unrealistic expectations!  LOL!


I'm still waiting for the police to find me so I can rot in peace.  [:D]

MaryT




Aileen68 -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 3:35:11 PM)

I'd much rather be a slut than an old guard.
Slut is much more sexier.  [:)]




mnottertail -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 3:46:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I'd much rather be a slut than an old guard.
Slut is much more sexier.  [:)]

A real example of a catch-22 here, apparently that statement is enough to put you in the Old Guard.

Ron




Aileen68 -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 3:54:58 PM)

I'm a slut, damn it!  You know who to ask.




topcat -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 3:56:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I'd much rather be a slut than an old guard.
Slut is much more sexier.  [:)]

It is when you do it, sweety...




happypervert -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:06:40 PM)

I want to know if the Old Guard sluts are as fat as these new fangled watered down sluts. Then after we figure that one out, we can debate whether or not any of them are twue.




BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:20:27 PM)

I'd just like to know the difference between a slut, a slave and a submissive.    [sm=book.gif]



[sm=wave.gif]




mnottertail -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:21:46 PM)

One is old guard and the others are fantasy.






BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:27:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

One is old guard and the others are fantasy.



Does that mean only one is twue?  Which one?  Why?  Bestow some of your worldly wisdoms on us Sir Ron of Da Kingdom of Twue Slutdom. [8|]

[sm=mrpuffy.gif]




julietsierra -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:28:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

In high school the guys who weren't getting laid called the girls who slept with others sluts and I think that is what many (certainly not all) who attempt to wrap themselves in the musty old guard cloak are doing.  The rest of us who have partners aren't "real" we are just after kinky sex or watered down S&M, in other words, just sluts.

The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess.  For me, S&M has always been about creating a unique synergy between me and my partner.  That synergy is dynamic and changes over time and is lost when one or both of us moves on.  I will only accept a strong, dynamic, and independent woman as my submissive and I will not shove her, nor myself, into some mold created by another, so kindly take your "old guard" and slip it where the sun doesn't shine.  Instead I will create something new and magic with her alongside me on our own unique path and journey.


Y'know, what I find sad is that in the attempt prove we're NOT  lumping everyone into one category, like those "old guard protocol-heavy" people do (whatever that means), there we are, lumping people into the category of not being concerned about protocol - and if someone DOES enjoy protocol and structure their lives around it, then of course, they're old and crusty and all those other sweet little adjectives people like to use to proclaim they're more accepting than those "old guard" folks - who of course, don't do things like THEY do.

The more people complain about things and set themselves up in comparison with others to proclaim which is better, the more people do exactly what they're complaining about.

My Master's been doing this for about 30+ years now. I won't call it "old guard" but he's been around for a while and like most people, regardless of when they entered this life, he generally upholds the views popular during the time he was first learning about this.

He's hard and he holds me to a standard that very few people we know are held to. This is something that for some reason, strikes a chord in me and thrills me to no end. We typically enjoy a higher protocol than a lot of our friends do even when we're engaged in such D/s things as fishing and swimming and going out to dinner. I know this, not because I'm comparing, but because I've fielded such questions as "How can you deal with this?" and "Is he always this way?" and most of the time, I don't even have a clue what they're talking about. The rest of the time, I walk around with this silly giddy look on my face.

When we spend out time at bdsm functions, we get to practice a higher protocol than we're commonly able to and do it without hiding. Note, I said a higher protocol than WE"RE usually able to enjoy, not a higher protocol than everyone else out there. We're not comparing ourselves. We just like what we do. This doesn't mean that those who do things differently than us are wrong. It just means that WE enjoy what we're doing.

We have some friends whose relationships are somewhat similar to ours. We enjoy doing things with them. But it doesn't mean he's forcing me into some strange pigeonhole or making me act in ways that are "not me." It doesn't mean I'm not independent or strong or whatever else is held up as a supposed contrast to those who DO live their lives like this. It just means this is what we do. Really! That's all it means.

Why is it so darned important to prove that one group is better than the other? I mean, when you go places is EVERYONE your friend? Or do you choose your friends so that they have common interests and common views and common goals in their lives? I am not necessarily going to choose for a friend someone who has nothing but disdain for myself, my Master or the way we live our lives. But while it's nice, they DON'T have to do things the way we do. 

Oh...and Michael?

Generally speaking, classy, strong, dynamic and independent women rarely spend their time focusing on the people they come in contact with who spend inordinate amounts of time and energy feeding the negativity in their lives. They simply don't have the time and the inclination. You might want to consider that in your search.

juliet




Noah -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:35:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

In high school the guys who weren't getting laid called the girls who slept with others sluts and I think that is what many (certainly not all) who attempt to wrap themselves in the musty old guard cloak are doing.  The rest of us who have partners aren't "real" we are just after kinky sex or watered down S&M, in other words, just sluts.

The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess.  For me, S&M has always been about creating a unique synergy between me and my partner.  That synergy is dynamic and changes over time and is lost when one or both of us moves on.  I will only accept a strong, dynamic, and independent woman as my submissive and I will not shove her, nor myself, into some mold created by another, so kindly take your "old guard" and slip it where the sun doesn't shine.  Instead I will create something new and magic with her alongside me on our own unique path and journey.


Next can we have a thread about Sluts and Mouseketeer values?






domiguy -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:36:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

I'd just like to know the difference between a slut, a slave and a submissive.    [sm=book.gif]



[sm=wave.gif]



When I'm doing you, you are a sexy submissive.  When these other hounds from hell pounce on you..You become a worthless,tick infested, Hell bound slave and slut. (Wait! reverse that!)

out.

D.G

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.




cloudboy -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:37:26 PM)


Michael, you ignorant slut.

John Warren used to sort of imply there is no "old guard," and that such a thing is just a figment of everyone's imagination.

In my own relationship, we operate completely on our own and do not actively interact with anyone ---- so there's no backdrop to make us feel uncomfortable or inauthentically BDSM. No matter how others might judge us, assuming we were more public or part of some kind of scene, I think each of us would care more about being happy with each other. To be the other way around, as you imply, would be a mistake.





domiguy -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:39:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I'm a slut, damn it!  You know who to ask.


What's your dad's phone number again? Oops! did I say that out loud? (looks over shoulder to see if Moderator Eleven is watching)....lol

Much love Aileen.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.




Aileen68 -> RE: Sluts and Old Guard values (1/23/2007 4:40:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah

Next can we have a thread about Sluts and Mouseketeer values?


Aren't they one and the same?
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