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How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 11:24:00 AM   
knees2you


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Hi there,
Was just sitting here thinking about my Mistress,
and wondering just how far I would go to serve Her?

How far would You go to serve Your Master/Mistress.

What If You where blindfolded and told to drink what
They where giving You?

What If You where lead to the edge of a cliff and told to sit there
for an hour, alone blindfolded?

Just a couple of examples..

I know this falls under the "Trust rule." But some of us
woudn't think twice about doing it. Or would we~

I've been learning "Trust" is knowing that Your Mistress/Masterwould never ever put You in harms way, and that
we as Slaves/Submissives should always believe that~

Sincerely, ant





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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 11:28:50 AM   
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There's a lot of context in here, and I don't think it shows a darn thing about how much someone "trusts" another.

After all, it's one thing to step off the edge of a cliff and quite another to go tell every member of your family and friends to piss off in person and tell them that you're about to step off the side of a cliff because this one person says so.

Would I allow my life to be taken based on the Owners orders? Yes.

Do I think that really shows anything about "how deep" my submission is, or "how much" I trust him? No.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 11:57:08 AM   
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quote:

Do I think that really shows anything about "how deep" my submission is, or "how much" I trust him? No.


i find your reply interesting, could you please elaborate a little bit more? what would you call that if not trust or submission? i am not at all arguing your point but rather interested in learning a different perspective on it....i would do anything, and up to this point have done everything Master has asked of me, and i have reasoned it to trust and submission....sometimes wondering if it's something else.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 12:35:27 PM   
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i would go as far as my Master as He wanted of me, and possibly even beyond that.

if He told me to drink something while i was blindfolded, i'd drink it eagerly

if He told me to sit on the edge of a cliff blindfolded and alone, i'd do it, (not all that eagerly, but i would)

and as you said, its bc i know He woouldnt ever let anything bad happen to me bc i know He loves me

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 12:57:31 PM   
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Interestingly enough for me, I know that the Owner loves me, and that he absolutely COULD and WOULD do "something bad" to me. One does not eliminate the other.

If you know nothing bad will happen, then it's not an exercise of trust at all, it's just doing whatever it is that they want done.

I don't obey the Owner because I trust that nothing bad will happen, I obey because I am property and I gave up the right to do anything else.

I believe being owned is a state of being, but it is also a process. I do learn deeper trust in myself and my relationship to the Owner as time goes on. However, my trust in HIM is absolute. However, we don't demonstrate that by artificial tests, but by daily troubles and hardships and this harsh thing called life.

For me it tends to be a black and white issue. If I didn't trust him utterly, I wouldn't be his property. The fact that I am his property states the case more than enough and no other "tests" will improve upon that in my eyes. I see those "tests" being used more as ways for subs to "outsub" eachother and artificial means to puff people's egos.

Trust unfortunately is a reactive thing, we take leaps and, depending on the result, we progress or move back. Trust to me is demonstrated more by who we are long term, rather than short term extreme acts.


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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 1:04:54 PM   
ruffnecksbabygir


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wow that was so well put it really put it into perspective for me and made me think! thanks!

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 2:07:13 PM   
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quote:

I've been learning "Trust" is knowing that Your Mistress/Masterwould never ever put You in harms way, and that
we as Slaves/Submissives should always believe that~


I absolutely agree.....until they don't know they have caused harm.......yet. I trust Thorns with my life, i believe He would never harm me.....intentionally.....sometimes there are mistakes made and it happens. How far would i go for Thorns? He knows and that's what is important.


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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 2:18:07 PM   
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quote:

Would I allow my life to be taken based on the Owners orders? Yes.


Wow not me. I value my life more than that. I might be willing to die to save Hubby or one of my children, but not just becasue i was ordered to.

I really don't know how far i would go but i do know He won't push me very far or harm me intentionally.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 6:55:24 PM   
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This is a fascinating question. i enjoyed EmeraldSlave's response very much. i am not a slave, but within the bonds of my submission, i would do whatever my Master commanded of me. It is because i trust Him implicitly.

When we first entered this relationship, i promised to always do whatever He commands and He promised to never truly hurt me. It is one of the few things in my life that i can count on.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 7:46:12 PM   
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the shocking truth is, with the right person I'd go further than I would rationally say I would and even further than common sense dictates.But it took me years to realize that and I certainly thought differently in the beginning.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/3/2005 7:54:38 PM   
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While there is very little i will not do for Sir, i do express what i am uncomfortable with. He knows that i know myself better than anyone (although He is getting close to knowing me just as well), and while He may be disappointed in my denial to do things, He talks with me about my fears and concerns. When i am with Sir, i do not worry about whether i will or will not do some thing. He knows how to get me to do things that He wants, even if it is not some thing i would do for some one else.
As far as taking a drink if i were blindfolded, i would ask what it was before hand..trusting in that He has yet to lie to me. Edge of a cliff? i think Sir knows better than to put me there.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/4/2005 4:00:51 AM   
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Would i drink something handed to me? Yes, blindford or no.
Would i sit on a cliff edge alone? No, blindfold or no. i have an intense fear of heights. It has lessened somewhat in the time i have known Master, for a variety of reasons, but it is still there. Would He make me sit on a cliff edge? absolutely not! He is not interested in anything that will cause harm to me or O/our relationship. As He says, a healthy slave is a useable slave.

There are a couple of things i could not bring myself to do and He knows them. As for other stuff if i don't want to, i will whine and complain, say no, u-hu, not in this life time - then i will say "if You wish" because at the end of the day it is about what He wishes. i just want Him to know of my reservations.

Do i trust Him? absolutely! i have walked along a cliff edge with Master after only 3 weeks of knowing Him because i wanted to see the view and He was the only person in the world i trusted enough to take me there. Would i sit on that edge alone? still no.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/4/2005 4:22:36 AM   
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For me this really is all about trust. I trust that yes, Sir is most likely going to do bad things to me and those bad things will most likely hurt, but I TRUST Him and know that He will never HARM. Would I drink what was handed to me...of course I would. Would I sit on a cliff edge...of course I would. Would I allow myself to be killed because He ordered it so....absolutely not. I do have hard limits....my death is certainly on the list. Would I risk my life to save Him if need be?...more than likely yes I would. But to die because it was His wish?....there are things in this life that DO come before His wishes....like my children. Would I deprive them of a mother because of His wish....not even a chance.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/4/2005 7:15:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

For me this really is all about trust. I trust that yes, Sir is most likely going to do bad things to me and those bad things will most likely hurt, but I TRUST Him and know that He will never HARM. Would I drink what was handed to me...of course I would. Would I sit on a cliff edge...of course I would. Would I allow myself to be killed because He ordered it so....absolutely not. I do have hard limits....my death is certainly on the list. Would I risk my life to save Him if need be?...more than likely yes I would. But to die because it was His wish?....there are things in this life that DO come before His wishes....like my children. Would I deprive them of a mother because of His wish....not even a chance.




before i had my child i did not value my life nearly as much as i do now....my child definately comes before anyone no question... i take more caution with my own life because of my child more than any other reason i could have...he needs me most.






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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/4/2005 8:08:27 AM   
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quote:

How far would You go to serve Your Master/Mistress.


This slave gave(not sold) away every material thing she had, or had a vested interest in that Master didn't want, upon accepting His collar, including a classic car, furniture, personal items, two dogs and several cats that she had taken in prior to our meeting.

This slave moved 183 miles from her hometown leaving relatives and friends behind.

This slave gave up earning a paycheck and trusts Master to provide for her now and in the future.

This slave gave up making decisions regarding living arrangements, vacation time, personal hygiene, clothing options and even little things such as what will be eaten at dinner and what channel will be watched on the tv, unless Master specifically requests that she make the decision.

Given that, drinking something from a glass blindfolded or sitting alone on the edge of a cliff for an hour is a piece of cake and would be done without question, although this slave doubts that Master would ask for either of those "proofs".

quote:

I've been learning "Trust" is knowing that Your Mistress/Masterwould never ever put You in harms way, and that
we as Slaves/Submissives should always believe that~


Trust is the Bottom Line and the thing that keeps us from being another statistic in the "failed relationships" survey.


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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/4/2005 8:19:10 AM   
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for me i will trust them and due as asked but if i'am unsure witht he lvl of trust i have with them then i will question it over time i will ask less and less till i have not resion to question them any more but you hafe to give some b4 it call all start

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/4/2005 8:59:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chainedgirl

Would i drink something handed to me? Yes, blindford or no.
Would i sit on a cliff edge alone? No, blindfold or no. i have an intense fear of heights. It has lessened somewhat in the time i have known Master, for a variety of reasons, but it is still there. Would He make me sit on a cliff edge? absolutely not! He is not interested in anything that will cause harm to me or O/our relationship. As He says, a healthy slave is a useable slave.

There are a couple of things i could not bring myself to do and He knows them. As for other stuff if i don't want to, i will whine and complain, say no, u-hu, not in this life time - then i will say "if You wish" because at the end of the day it is about what He wishes. i just want Him to know of my reservations.

Do i trust Him? absolutely! i have walked along a cliff edge with Master after only 3 weeks of knowing Him because i wanted to see the view and He was the only person in the world i trusted enough to take me there. Would i sit on that edge alone? still no.


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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/4/2005 9:27:27 AM   
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The best to say it is that I would do anything that didn't harm another living being. I know that I probably wouldn't be asked to, but I would not obey if asked to hurt something that is living and breathing and thinking.

This goes as far as the fact that I would not give up my cats if my owner asked me to. In taking them in, I promised to take care of them for their lives.

So. Something that might hurt me? Yes. Something that will hurt someone else? Never.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/7/2005 4:52:36 PM   
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First there was a D/s relationship. It grew as trust in one another grew. I would do whatever he asked of me as long as it didn't put him or my children in harm.

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RE: How far would You go for Your Mistress/Master? - 3/7/2005 5:30:20 PM   
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thanks emeralslave for the clarification

< Message edited by slavedesires -- 3/7/2005 6:04:17 PM >


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