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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/26/2007 8:47:11 AM   
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i copied it and posted it for a reason , after seeing hom many people on the boeards judge other's i think it was a timely reminder not to judge what you dont know, we are after all pixels on a screen but real people behind said screen,

Well isn't this precious! You judged us all a little too judgmental for your tastes so posted an urban legend as a lecture to us all, and then when informed it was fiction (after passing it along as fact), you decided you just didn't care.

Hate to disappoint you, but I'm still judgmental and I rate you and your pixels somewhere between annoying and nauseating. Thanks for sharing.


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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/26/2007 10:21:38 AM   
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Sir Kenin , i will not get into a debate about this but please think everytime someome posts a quote from a book they are posting copywritten material..
for example quote's from the Gor books or the Maquise De Sade , also the BDSM emblem posted is a breach of copywrite ,
i think my sin if any was to make people stop and think before judging,
if i only upset 2 people with my post (which was not my intention) then i believe i am having a good day
i wish You well Sir
leah.


I would like to strongly urge you to do some research on intellectual property Laws.  MizSuz got the point.  Posting that story is theft and I have seen BBS' seriously threatened by Law firms for just such a behaviour, I kid you not.  If you do not believe me, I dare you to post an Associated Press article in it's entirety as one example.  Wait and watch what happens.

All I am saying is think before you post these things and do your research.  Always always, for everyone's sake, cite your sources.  Shit mail does not need to be recirculated, despite the cute messages. They need to be stopped dead in their tracks, because they are taxing resources to the max just so some kid can get his/her jollies.  Do your part. 

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/26/2007 3:53:41 PM   
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i am truely sorry this threat turned out like this

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/26/2007 10:14:20 PM   
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Leah:

People have been using the Tommy story for years now with no acknowledgment of copyright. These include professional organizations, individuals, community organizations, and so on. You're not alone. What is really the shame though is that people seem to be so desperate to slap someone that they have to resort to the anonymous slap of attacking others ad nauseum. The copyright point was made and acknowledged. Further attacks were just a desperate spanks by desperate people needing to "control" someone so badly that they will opt to just give free reign to their sarcasm rather than move on.

Hope it was good for all of you.

juliet

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/26/2007 10:18:26 PM   
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I really think you need a schooling in psychology.  Nobody is trying to control anybody, and I do not see a note of sarcasm anywhere.  What I do see though is your attempt at making your digs at people through your rose-colored glasses and throwing flamebait out there, whether intentionally or otherwise.  I also see people that are genuinely trying to help her understand and help any others to put a stop to this nonsense for the betterment of all of us.

Personally I would stop pointing fingers until you have an idea of what you are pointing your fingers at.

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 2:02:57 AM   
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Please don't fight. The intent of the OP's post was so sweet (IMO). 

I know these kinds of posts bug people sometimes. On another  forum (not bdsm) that I participate in, I get all kinds of what I consider "spam" (vs. intelligent conversation) sometimes - and, depending on what kind of mood I am, I can just want to throw my coffee mug at the screen at some of what shows up there (there is one guy who is always sending in Road-runner-cartoons, and it drives me up the wall somedays. It's a political forum - I don't even know what those cartoons are doing on there).

But if I think about it longer, I can realize "Gosh, I forward a lot of this guy's jokes (although not those) to my friends", and he's made such a contribution in so many ways to the forum, I just think I don't want to say anything about it, because he contributes so much in other ways. Not to mention  that even if he didn't- his contribution really is as of as much value as anyone's.

It's a "matter of taste" thing, personally, I think (I am not a Road-runner cartoon fan).

I can love this type of post - especially, someitmes, after I've had a challenging afternooon with kids at the shelter. When I read it yesterday - it was like some kind of catharsis for me (and I've seen it before, too. It was just a particularly good day for me to run across it again). On another day, I might have not even have read it - but considered it kid of fortunate I read it when I did. Other people might see it differently, depending on their taste, or mood. I really appreciated it, and so did some others.

Not everyone has to appreciate it - I know that.     

I did not know about copyrights when I started editing a newsletter several years ago - and I had two people inform me about how copyrights work - and I appreciated their knowledge and experience - because I didn't want to print things with no attribution to the author. 

I think print media might work differently than the internet (although it maybe should not) considering how much stuff is floating around that's not attributed at all, much less to the"correct source" and it's not policed at all, really - less in the same way as print media can be - not that this makes that any less important to the author, maybe. The laws might be the same, I don't know, really. I have no idea who enforces them, or how, on the internet.

Sir Kenin: I could be wrong, But - I've read (in many places, some even on the internet, so God knows how much of it is actually true) that Bandwidth can be expanded by purchasing new computer equipment - it is not dependent on "how many piece" of info are flaoting about the internet" -or on how crowded "the ether gets with info" in general.

Bandwidth (or so I've read) is dependnent on the type of computer equipment a person (or organization) has purchased to decipher it all (whatever they are receiving as far as info on the ir computer(s) with.

If some individual's PC in particular is having a hard time with a lot of "spam"- then they can purchase, say, a Norton security protector (for less than $100, usually) to filter some of that, out of the offending realm of their own persoanl experience - ask a computer whiz Net Geeks (a  brick and mortar company in the U.S. - they will tell you the same thing I just did). Or, you could always consult the internet (he). Fortunately, some software comes equipped with a spam filter now (I will leave worrying abou that to Bill Gates and his crew, though. I know next to nothing - just what I read here and there).    

That could be viewed as a side-issue to the OP's intent in posting. It might be valuable knowledge to have, though, in general, about bandwidth (and copyrights). 

I have an acquaintance who doesn't like it when I "dress up", and she will always note for me, when I have taken pains to look especially nice, that I have lipstick on my teeth, or a scuff on my pumps, etc. 

I finallly said one day, as a return comment, one day: "How kind of you to notice. How thoughtful. Especially in front of all these other people. It must mean you really care how I feel - doesn't it."  For some reason, she hasn't made similar comments to me since (alone with me, or in a crowd).

Intent means a lot (to me). I loved the intent of this post, it was meant to be uplifting. Some said they found it so. I think it's kind of nice someone would want to post it, so that I could maybe ejoy it. If some found it sappy and annoying, well, oh well. Some folks were trying to give genuine advice on copyrights, I think (although I know there are legal experts who specialize in this area alone, it can apparently get so complex. I don't know much about it - I've not read up on it) .

Remember, sometimes comments might actually be piercing someone's heart, and not their head, as some intend. Just sayin' - feel free to tell me to butt out. I will.

I also want to say: I wasn't thinking the worse of you, Sir Kenin, for your comments to the OP. I am used to jumping to people's defense - I work with abused people, after all. It's "just me" - not a reflection on you

But - I've seen you round these parts for awhile - and I know you always "speak your mind" (and I do consider many of your comments helpful)- and I know it is not usually intended to hurt anyone. It's kind of like the reaction some people have to gooddogbenji - they think he is being mean, when he's not, really. I have my morre candid monets, too. But- not everbody knows ya'll that well round here. And some of us are tender spirits, some days (myself certainly, as well as others, maybe even men, included).

No offense meant, 

- Susan 

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 1/27/2007 3:08:50 AM >


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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 2:16:03 AM   
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All this fuss over a piece of (touchy-feely) spam.  Snopes and Google can be your friend.

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 3:13:11 AM   
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Sir Kenin (and anyone else who thinks the internet is "clogged") - I am not trying to prolong discourse that could appear (but in reality is not meant to be) antagonizing here, but I have to say - I've read that computer bandwidth can be expanded  by a whole, whole lot, (almost seemingly infinitely, to any but the most discerning end-user), by organizations (and even individuals)- by purchasing new and updated (and sometimes expensive) computer equipment.

Bandwidth (in and of itself) it is not dependent on "how many pieces" of information are "floating about the internet" - Or on how crowded "the ether" gets with information, in general, within this visually objective illusion called "The Internet", or on how many people may be "clogging it". It cannot be "clogged".

Bandwidth (or so I've read) is dependent on the type of computer equipment a person (or an organization) has purchased to decipher it all with (that is, whatever they are receiving as far as information on their computer(s). 

I've also been informed (by a quasi-reliable source - not "the internet", btw) that if some individual's PC in particular is having a hard time with a lot of "spam"- then they can purchase, say, a Norton security protector (for less than $100, usually) to filter some of that out of the offending realm of their own personal experience. Ask a computer whiz at Net Geeks (a brick and mortar company in the U.S. - they will tell you the same thing I just did). 

Or, I suppose you could always consult the internet (he). Fortunately, some software comes equipped with a spam filter now.

***But - my whole point is- my distinct impression from what I have read (and not on the internat, btw, if it matters) is - that a general lack of "public bandwidth" is Not threatening to swallow up the "Information Age", and plunge it into some black hole it cannot recover from. That is extremely unlikely to happen.

Maybe a lack of updated computer equipment (or computers "crashing", etc.) is - possibly, in pockets, and companies - someday - But - the OP is not responsible for that problem. That is an individual (or an organizational) equipment problem. 

"Doing your part" (or telling anyone else to do that) will not "help" "It" "go away" - unless "doing your part" includes purchasing updated computer equipment, for yourself, or for someone else, or for your company.

Inisinuating that could even turn out to be as irresponsible as the rumor(or :fact", however one wants to view it, I suppose - that circulated before the year 1999 turned into the year 2000 - that everyone's computers - everywhere - around the world, were all going to "crash" - and the Earth was going to come to a standstill because of it. People updated their software  - and that did not happen. Neither, in somewhat along the same vein (to a degree), is "the Internet" "too cloggged".  

If you're buying, in any case, count me "in".   

No offense meant (truly), 

- Susan 
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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 4:15:31 AM   
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Sorry to go on for so long about that.

- Susan 

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 1/27/2007 4:16:12 AM >


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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 4:41:05 AM   
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Greetings..~smiles~

While this particular piece it'self may not be true..the meaning behind it holds truth for many real situations out there. None the less it made me cry when I read it, and it did as intended in making this a renewed thing in my mind.

So thankyou leahh

Well Wishes
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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 8:29:22 AM   
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Susan:

No offence, but if you could kindly do me a favor.  The last thing I need is a lesson on IT, ok?  It is what I do for a living.

But thanks anyways.

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 9:52:03 AM   
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SirKenin: Okay, sorry. I honestly menat no offense. I hear other people mention this sortof thing, and for awhile I sort of wondered about it, so I asked somedbody, etc....
but I wasn't trying to dig at you, in any way (I like you, hey).

- Susan

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 9:55:05 AM   
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When I was in the first grade many moons ago there was this kid who was always acting up in class so the teacher, a real mean bitch brought in a baby's bonnet and made him wear it all day whenever he acted up.
Of course other kids would tease him out on the playground.
I don't think they'd allow that kind of thing these days.

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/27/2007 11:48:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

SirKenin: Okay, sorry. I honestly menat no offense. I hear other people mention this sortof thing, and for awhile I sort of wondered about it, so I asked somedbody, etc....
but I wasn't trying to dig at you, in any way (I like you, hey).

- Susan


No worries.  I did not take it as a dig and I did not take offence to it. 

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/28/2007 6:33:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: happypervert

Hate to disappoint you, but I'm still judgmental and I rate you and your pixels somewhere between annoying and nauseating. Thanks for sharing.



thankYou for judging me Sir
leah

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/28/2007 7:55:03 AM   
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I would like to know when judging and making judgments became a bad thing.  Do you not exericse making judgments in your daily life?  Your work life?  Your personal life?  People take things into consideration, assessing situations (and people) in order to make decisions.  This is what is known as judging.  If you don't make judgments about things and people you are living in a different world than I do.


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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/28/2007 10:49:41 AM   
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Leah, how dare you take up room on these message boards after a mere 33 posts.  First, you must have an opinion on everything and everything before you dare post a topic, earn the right to speak, or judge. Secondly, we now have less room for important subjects like wrapping your balls up in plastic wrap to keep them warm, or my personal favorite, how grown men have found such contentment in diapers.

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/28/2007 11:07:51 AM   
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tricia: He, he. Or the pernennial favorite: "What is the difference between a submissive and a slave?"

- Susan

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/28/2007 12:35:03 PM   
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I have the "Starfish" story printed out and mounted in my office.  No one thinks it true.  But it is inspirational.  I work in an industry where more kids and families are lost than succeed.  I encourage each of my employees to remember the one's who they have helped back into the ocean to live.

We keep a "Starfish" book to remember the ones who have crossed our path and WE have been lucky enough to toss back into the ocean.

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RE: dont judge a book by it's cover - 1/28/2007 7:35:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

When I was in the first grade many moons ago there was this kid who was always acting up in class so the teacher, a real mean bitch brought in a baby's bonnet and made him wear it all day whenever he acted up.
Of course other kids would tease him out on the playground.
I don't think they'd allow that kind of thing these days.


[kidding]

I always wondered what kind of hat that was in your picture, popeye1250

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