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torturedevice -> she needs to learn how to lick! (1/25/2007 10:41:23 PM)
I have sort of an interesting situation. My girlfriend of a year has decided to take the plunge and submit to me. I have some expirence in the lifestyle but this is the first time she's submitted to anyone. A former slave of mine still keeps in regular contact and I am considering allowing her to submit to me aswell. The girlfriend/new slave is actually pretty excited about this, and is looking forward to the idea of being forced to be physical with the other slave. The major problem is that she's never so much as kissed another girl. I have told her that it's not a problem at all and it's nothing to be concerned about, but she would like some expirence before being ordered to play with the other slave. We have discussed a few options including her going to a lesbian bar and picking up a vanilla girl to learn with and propositioning one of her friends who she's had a bit of a crush on. One idea which she actually came up with was her being loaned out to a mistress for a weekend and being taught how to please a female. I think this has been a bit of a fantasy for her. Has anyone had and expirences being loaned out for training? Have any Masters/Mistresses loaned their slaves out? How did it work? Hell, are any female Dominants in the Nashville area who are willing to perform such services? Thanks.

eyesopened -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 2:39:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: torturedevice We have discussed a few options including her going to a lesbian bar and picking up a vanilla girl to learn with and propositioning one of her friends who she's had a bit of a crush on. How would you feel if you liked a girl and after your date told you that you were just an experiment for her boyfriend? The idea of going to a lesbian bar to use a girl for an experiment sounds cruel. Same with the idea of seducing one of her friends. Would she let her friend know it's her practicing for a three-some and ask if she would like to particiapate in the "training"? The whole thing sounds like fantasy to me. i've tried sexual encounters with females before and i never worried about how to "lick" since i'm a female and i know what feels good and what doesn't. If the former slave wants to participate then why not let those two girls get together and discuss it?

innatedesire -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 5:14:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: torturedevice I have sort of an interesting situation. My girlfriend of a year has decided to take the plunge and submit to me. I have some expirence in the lifestyle but this is the first time she's submitted to anyone. A former slave of mine still keeps in regular contact and I am considering allowing her to submit to me aswell. The girlfriend/new slave is actually pretty excited about this, and is looking forward to the idea of being forced to be physical with the other slave. The major problem is that she's never so much as kissed another girl. I have told her that it's not a problem at all and it's nothing to be concerned about, but she would like some expirence before being ordered to play with the other slave. We have discussed a few options including her going to a lesbian bar and picking up a vanilla girl to learn with and propositioning one of her friends who she's had a bit of a crush on. One idea which she actually came up with was her being loaned out to a mistress for a weekend and being taught how to please a female. I think this has been a bit of a fantasy for her. Has anyone had and expirences being loaned out for training? Have any Masters/Mistresses loaned their slaves out? How did it work? Hell, are any female Dominants in the Nashville area who are willing to perform such services? Thanks. Is your former slave unable to communicate how she likes to kissed, licked etc..?? While i have never been with a female, i would think that everyone has thier own preferences in how they like to receive oral pleasure....no 2 are the same. But i could be missing something here who knows.

AquaticSub -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 5:59:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eyesopened How would you feel if you liked a girl and after your date told you that you were just an experiment for her boyfriend? The idea of going to a lesbian bar to use a girl for an experiment sounds cruel. Same with the idea of seducing one of her friends. Would she let her friend know it's her practicing for a three-some and ask if she would like to particiapate in the "training"? The whole thing sounds like fantasy to me. i've tried sexual encounters with females before and i never worried about how to "lick" since i'm a female and i know what feels good and what doesn't. If the former slave wants to participate then why not let those two girls get together and discuss it? My feelings exactly. I hate - with an utter passion - the idea of "I'll just pick up a lesbian/bisexual and practice with her". As if women who freely state they are into women are somehow less immune to the spur of emotional rejection. If she wants to practice fine. But have her be brutally honest about the fact that she doesn't give a damn about the person she is about to have sex with. And have her be prepared for rejection. Lesbians and bisexuals are no less picky after all. You need to be prepared for the fact that she might decide she likes women more then men. Not saying it will happen but it's happened enough in these situations where the person decided they really prefer their own gender and went off to merrily serve a mistress that you should be aware of it. Long story short - if you listen to nothing else, listen to this: Have her be brutally honest with the practice girl.

torturedevice -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 6:50:22 AM)
I'm more than sure that wanting to get loaned out is a bit of a fantasy for her. No question about it. And I'm more than happy to let her and the former slave expirement together. Let's face it, I don't have much to gain by loaning her out. I will say that her motivation for wanting to get loanded out has to do with her wanting to know what she's doing when she's so ordered and feeling a bit on the inadaquite side that the former slave is able to do this and she isn't. As for her friend, I vetoed that outright because of that very idea. Am I positive that the friend would do it? Absolutely. Do I think that she would be infinately more comfortable with the friend than the former slave or a girl she picked up? Absolutely. However she's had a crush on the friend for a few years, and I don't think she could actually act on it. The friend would be a little too close for her to fee comfortable putting herself out there like that with. The girl in a bar would seem to be the simple solution. Personally, I would have no problem with her going to a bar specifically to go home with another girl. And I doubt that there are many people out there either guys or girls that would turn down a one night stand with her. But then you have issues with not knowing who this other person is and the risks associated with that. Again, not a good option. I wouldn't have a problem loaning her out for the right person. Of course her motivations are party fantasy for wanting to do it. It would allow me to screen the Domme for her and that is obviously more safe than meeting a random girl in a bar. she could have the expirence of getting trained by someone else, which could be a benefit. And she would be able to have an expirence that would be atleast moderately more original than just being made to play on the former slave. I'm just wondering if anyone else has has a similar expirence as a Master or slave and how exacty it worked. Obviously any situation would have to be judged on the basis of the individual involved, but it doesn't seem to be the worst possible option. And it can atleast justify looking into the possibility.

MasterFireMaam -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 7:44:08 AM)
Anywhere she starts, she'll be, well, starting. So, just order her to start with the other slave; it doesn't seem like it will harm her to start there. You're the Dominant. Master Fire

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 7:47:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: torturedevice Has anyone had and expirences being loaned out for training? Have any Masters/Mistresses loaned their slaves out? How did it work? Hell, are any female Dominants in the Nashville area who are willing to perform such services? Thanks. Sometimes it worked out great, sometimes it was boring, sometimes it was excruciating. It's different for everyone, but I like being kissed the same way from people- intently, sincerely, small closed mouth to start and letting the energy build into a more open mouth. Women tend to be way too soft and timid in their kissing style for me most of the time- and I can't stand kissing a smoker. I agree with MasterFireMaam, she's gonna start, so throw them together and have them enjoy the experience of exploring. This should be FUN, not anxiety attack producing!

torturedevice -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 9:51:08 AM)
Her having fun with it is the top priority, no doubt. That's really the issue that I'm having with it. If I'm going to loan her out, I want to make sure that she's going enjoy herself. I also know her well enough to know that if I just throw her in with the former slave and say "go for it", she'll freak. She'll be much more comfortable learning on her own. I think the whole idea of getting loaned out is a pretty big fantasy for her. The more I press her on why she wants to do it, the more of a fantasy it sounds like. I'm not going to let her go into it lightly. If she's not 100% comfortable with getting loaned out, it flat out won't happen. She is a slave, and she's completely submissive in her role, but she's my slave and I won't let her enter into something that I'm not 100% convinced that isn't a good idea. Thank you for all of the responses, and I assure you, I'm asking these questions because I am genuinely concerned about the well being of both of the slaves involved, especially if one is going to be loaned out.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 9:59:12 AM)
This is still all new to you guys- there's no need to rush. Heck, give it two years before you seriously start to consider loaning her out. If it really is a seriously hot fantasy, this will give it time to blossom and feel itself out before going there.

torturedevice -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 10:09:58 AM)
That's kind of where I'm leaning right now. I've had a slave before, I'm not exactly an expert, but I know a bit. And as much as I want her to express her fantasies, it seems to me that the worst thing I could let her do it push too far too fast and burn herself out. This all stems from her wanting to involve the former slave. The former slave is actually the one who got her interested in the lifestyle. The only problem with just ordering her to play with the former slave, which they are both willing to do is that neither of them have a clue about exactly how to go about it and neither of them would be comfortable exploring in that setting. The former slave is content to just wait until the new slave is ready as the new slave is by far the more agressive of the two. I just want to give them both the best expirence possible. I won't lie, the idea of two slaves like them is a bit more than appealing to say the least. But the smart move is going to be to wait at the very least a few monthes and let the new slave get a feel for the lifestyle before she jumps into the deep end so to speak.

FelinePersuasion -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 10:16:53 AM)
and what about the std's and other sexually transmitted diseases she could get while bar hoping and picking up strangers?

DiurnalVampire -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 10:16:58 AM)
"Practice" on someone is useless. I have had partners who were extremely experienced ad who could not figure out how to make me happy without my express direction. Learning what one person likes has no bearing on figuring out what someone else will. I would never loan Angel out, and have him learn things from someone else which I might not like or want him to pick up. I dont want any of his training out of my hands, but thats just me. DV

torturedevice -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 10:39:28 AM)
Feline - That is the major concern and was my reason for vetoing that idea off hand. Diurnal - I would only only allow a domme to train her if I approved of the girl, and only if we came to an understanding as to how she would be trained in my absense.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 10:41:18 AM)
Well all I can say Torture is that instead of throwing two inexperienced girls together just because you happen to have some authority over them and having themput on a show for you which will be devoid of lusty energy- just wait for the right time and person to come along where the energy is there. Are they wanting to fuck eachother because they are hot for eachother, or because they want to make you hot?

torturedevice -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 11:04:19 AM)
I think that the former slave is basically along for the ride because she just flat out loves being made to submit. The new one genuinely likes girls. she's wanted to expirement for a long time and just hasn't had the opprotunity. Or when she does, she gets too nervous to actually do it. I think that she's willing to do it as a slave because it gives her that "i was doing as i was told" thing. Now, do I think that it'll make things easier? No. But I know that it's definately something that she wants to explore. I'm not pushing this at all. She's actually the one who's into the whole idea of me having two slaves. I'm not going to turn it down, but at the same time I want to give her time to find her place before it happens.

torturedevice -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 11:05:43 AM)
And so everyone knows, I realize that the tag line is a bit out of line, but it drew folk's attention which was the whole point.

Mercnbeth -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 11:21:21 AM)
what this slave interpreted from your posts: she fantasizes about/wants to engage in a lesbian sexual experience, but only under the pretense of being "forced" or "loaned out" or "as a slave". her own inhibitions are too high under normal cicumstances, but she will lower them for you, adding in complicated limits, so that she can fulfill her fantasies. this slave's opinion: this slave never had a lot of lesbian sex fantasies, but plenty of forced ________(fill in the blank) fantasies where the "forcing" of a particular act was serving another's fantasy. this slave is heterosexual, but has actually experienced kissing, fondling, licking, etc. with someone of the same sex without being personally sexually turned on. participating in the act for the pleasure it brought to another was gratifying on a personal level, as much as doing something for someone else does(sexual proclivities involved or not). that Master finds pleasure in His slave and any specific acts being dictated by Him, be it a golden shower, "enduring" clover clips[;)], licking pussy or making His coffee in the morning is very gratifying for this slave. Pleasing Him gets this slave all wet, hot and bothered.[:)] focusing on this slave's personal comfort level with a particular act is something this slave strives to eliminate from her service to Master. particularly because of a past rape, this slave is getting better at eliminating a previously automatic repulsed response every time a specific act is ordered by focusing on the pleasure it brings to Master. that loss of sense of self has helped this slave tremendously to serve Master, for HIS pleasure, which builds confidence in this slave's ability to serve Master, no matter what He requires.

Adrenochrome -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 11:21:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eyesopened How would you feel if you liked a girl and after your date told you that you were just an experiment for her boyfriend? The idea of going to a lesbian bar to use a girl for an experiment sounds cruel. So one-night-stands are inherently cruel? He didn't talk about "going to pick up a girl for a lifelong romance of tenderness, string quartets, and flowers", after all. quote: Same with the idea of seducing one of her friends. Would she let her friend know it's her practicing for a three-some and ask if she would like to particiapate in the "training"? "Hey, you've been my friend for a long time, and I wouldn't trade that for the world. But I find you really attractive, and I'd wonder if you'd be interested in coming home with me tonight. If you're not into it, don't worry, but I wanted to ask all the same." OH GOD THE HORRIBLE CRUELTY.

Adrenochrome -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 11:23:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub My feelings exactly. I hate - with an utter passion - the idea of "I'll just pick up a lesbian/bisexual and practice with her". As if women who freely state they are into women are somehow less immune to the spur of emotional rejection. This really does baffle me. You're making it sound like nobody in the GBLT community ever has one-night-stands.

torturedevice -> RE: she needs to learn how to lick! (1/26/2007 11:29:42 AM)
I'm not allowing either slave to put any restrictions on any potential expirementation. The former slave is willing to submit to anything I order her to submit to, and performs better when she's not allowed to prepare herself for use.

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