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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/1/2007 4:33:17 PM   
DiurnalVampire


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Status: offline 		When you meet a mistress, you have to make sure you agree on how far somehting will go. There is no minimum or maximum you can expect, every one of us has a different idea of what femenization means.
The way I go about femenizing angel may be different than how any other mistress would go about it.
The lengths that he goes to make me happy and how far I can push him would also likely be different with someone else. We are not public, but we dont have to be.  We might be eventualy.  I go by what he is comfortable with and push him slowly, but I do push him.

Make sure you talk to the person you consider subbing to. Its as easy as that. Communication is essental and you can ensure you are making a match with someone who wants what you do if you take the time to talk with them. 

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/1/2007 7:46:12 PM   
Edwyn


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

You can question whatever Edwyn, but the possibilities I listed are real. Equally, the fact is that few people announcing transition have any idea about how their friends and families, employers and so on will react. Sometimes it goes well, sometimes as in my case it goes reasonably well, sometimes its an absolute disaster. Whilst one would always hope that personal and social disaster will not be the case, one should always plan for that to happen, thus expect it.



I certainly never questioned whether these possibilities were, well... possible. Of course I'm aware that there are the kind of horrible people out there that would do as much harm as they could to anyone different from them. But still, to say that one should EXPECT these hateful acts is kinda extreme, but still not nearly as extreme as saying that one should EXPECT to lose family and friends over it. I'm sorry that this is the view you seem to have of the majority of people out there. There are a few bad apples. Many of them, actually. But there are many more accepting, loving people that wouldn't just drop someone because of something like this. Don't be so extreme.

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/1/2007 8:20:26 PM   
LadyEllen


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Status: offline 		Well, when one alights a luxury liner, one does not expect it to sink. But one would hope that the owners and crew anticipate this possibility and plan for it.

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/1/2007 8:30:56 PM   
DigitBox


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwyn

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

You can question whatever Edwyn, but the possibilities I listed are real. Equally, the fact is that few people announcing transition have any idea about how their friends and families, employers and so on will react. Sometimes it goes well, sometimes as in my case it goes reasonably well, sometimes its an absolute disaster. Whilst one would always hope that personal and social disaster will not be the case, one should always plan for that to happen, thus expect it.



I certainly never questioned whether these possibilities were, well... possible. Of course I'm aware that there are the kind of horrible people out there that would do as much harm as they could to anyone different from them. But still, to say that one should EXPECT these hateful acts is kinda extreme, but still not nearly as extreme as saying that one should EXPECT to lose family and friends over it. I'm sorry that this is the view you seem to have of the majority of people out there. There are a few bad apples. Many of them, actually. But there are many more accepting, loving people that wouldn't just drop someone because of something like this. Don't be so extreme.



There are a lot of gender variant people who's families will no longer talk to them, they have routinely been denied accomedations (including myself), they have lost jobs in places where the law does not protect them from such discrimination.  This can include cross dressers.  There have been cases in the US where an employer finds out that an employee cross dresses in his spare time and he has been fired for it.

What Lady E says may seem extreme but it isn't neccessarily.  Yes there are good people, and god bless them for being so open minded and respectful, but there are a lot more sad stories of CD's and other gender variants who have had their lives turned upside down because of the hateful disrespect of others.

The global trans community even has a website dedicated to our dead.  Primarily for those who died because of hate crimes against us.  It's called Remembering Our Dead.  It also inspired the Trans day of rememberance which is meant to be the day that we   remember all trans people who have died as a result of society treating us harsly for being who we are.

The list includes drag queens, CD's, TG, and TS. 

No one who expresses some kind of cross gender identity is spared.

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/10/2007 12:01:43 PM   
Tslaveboy


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Status: offline 		What about cupping over the nipple area? Would it make temporary breast buds or would it have permanent effects? If it's temporary it could help forced feminization fantasies.

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/10/2007 4:47:51 PM   
ToServeIsToLive


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Status: offline 		Going on my very very limited knowledge of the body and cupping, I would think cupping wouldn't a significant size increase nor would it stay for particularly long if it did (so it'd be temporary).  Then again I guess repeated heavy cupping might stretch out the skin giving you 80 year old style boobs.  I believe it's possible to use saline injections to get temporary breasts, but I imagine the injection of sufficient amounts would be very painful.  This is all probably heresy though so don't take my word for it.

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ORIGINAL: Tslaveboy

What about cupping over the nipple area? Would it make temporary breast buds or would it have permanent effects? If it's temporary it could help forced feminization fantasies.

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/10/2007 6:00:13 PM   
Tslaveboy


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Status: offline 		I was wondering because there was talk that I'd be part of a forced femininization scenario and the subject of cupping had come up.

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/11/2007 3:58:22 AM   
iwearpanties


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Status: offline 		not sure if i helping you out but i figured you and your Mistress would have set limits as too how far and what types of things she have you go thur ?as for my self ive done alot of dressing and domination but ive not been place in sitiations that i wasnt comfy with or didnt talk and agrre too try with out frist talking and seeing if this was some thing i wanted. im not sure what agreements you have with your Mistress

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/11/2007 1:33:45 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		I think what  they were suggesting was that if you do a trans formation, understand that,in the extreme, you may be losing more than just the male side of your existence. The idea of  harrassment, or ignorance can play into levels of depression and lost of  people in your life that really mattered to you in the past. Not to say you should stop in  any ones search  for their true self..But maybe the advice ( only my view ) was to  throw out ideas and experiences some have had and may be common for others who seek to  change their lives..

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/13/2007 9:10:52 AM   
blinkey


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Status: offline 		Why is it so hard to even meet a dominant woman and why are so many playing games and head trip. How can I meet
a dominant woman period.

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/14/2007 12:59:12 PM   
skirtboy43


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Status: offline 		Why is it so hard to even meet a dominant woman and why are so many playing games and head trip. How can I meet
a dominant woman period.

Blinkey

Hi Blinkey,
And the rest of us wsissy boys; you're right that is the central problem.    I thought, for a time, about going to some kind of fetishy event.   But the problem here is that one runs into a kind of catch-22 situation.   To go to those, you need an escort, but I'd want to go to it to find an escort!    Perhaps we need a special newbies event?
Love to all,
Skirt Boy

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/14/2007 2:54:12 PM   
LadyEllen


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Status: offline 		Why do you need an escort SB43?

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RE: Femminization, how far should one go? - 2/14/2007 3:06:26 PM   
MsKatHouston


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Status: offline 		Most clubs have some type of newcomers meeting or munch.  I have never heard of needing an escort to attend one of those.  However, for play parties, there are rules in some places where you need to know someone or have attended a newcomers meeting.

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