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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 7:54:44 PM   
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So basically you are stating that the troops are nothing but  bunch of liars and scammers?


   No Julia.  I'm saying they are smart young men who are perfectly willing to exploit the naive to get what they want. 

     Apparently you aren't very good at reading comprehension either.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 7:59:17 PM   
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So basically you are stating that the troops are nothing but  bunch of liars and scammers?


  No Julia.  I'm saying they are smart young men who are perfectly willing to exploit the naive to get what they want. 

    Apparently you aren't very good at reading comprehension either.

No, it s you who are not good at writing comprehension... quoting YOU

 
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I dunno, it could be legit, but "I'm shipping out tomorrow" is the oldest scam in the service.  Troops have been using that line to get laid and drunk for a LONG time.


Now color me puzzled, you are not stating that the troops would try to con honest warm hearted people out of booze money? I thought you were...

I would rather buy beer for the troops than do as you suggest..

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:00:36 PM   
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Since you don't seem to know anybody who has chosen to serve their country, pick a unit and address the package to 'First Sergeant' and the unit number. He'll make sure it goes to someone who could use it.



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p.s.  Two words:  Fort Irwin.


      What about it?  It's a training base in the desert.  Did you see the sign on the drive to Vegas?  I've been there a couple times to visit brothers when they were rotated through.  Kind of a crappy place, but I understand the training is excellent. 

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:03:32 PM   
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I would rather buy beer for the troops than do as you suggest..



       Then it's time to do it again, cuz Sinergy has been telling that same self-congratulatory story for quite some time now.  This was at least the third time I've seen it.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:11:49 PM   
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I would rather buy beer for the troops than do as you suggest..



I have a brother-in-law who was in Iraq, and he has thanked my husband numerous times for the care package he sent.

My boss’s son, who had 2 tours in Iraq, came home and stated how grateful him, and the men in his unit, were for their care packages we sent.

I would rather do that any day, than buy beer for a night.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:13:05 PM   
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I would rather buy beer for the troops than do as you suggest..



      Then it's time to do it again, cuz Sinergy has been telling that same self-congratulatory story for quite some time now.  This was at least the third time I've seen it.


Here is the deal, there are those of you who consistently insinuate that if one is pro-peace they are anti-troops, so when those of us who love our troops speak up about that and talk about volunteering money and time for vets and whatnot, we do so because we are tired of the slams, the put downs, the insinuation.. so if you are tired of the stories, you and those who want to slam us for  wanting to bring them home can stop doing that.  Otherwise, get used to us taking credit for time and money spent.. which I have done myself btw.

it is ironic, those of us who get accused of not supporting the troops are not the ones that called them scammmers looking for free booze and willing to lie for pussy by misrepresenting their service commitments... but that is just how I see it


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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:15:36 PM   
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Since you don't seem to know anybody who has chosen to serve their country, pick a unit and address the package to 'First Sergeant' and the unit number. He'll make sure it goes to someone who could use it.



Pick up this little tidbit from the psychic hotline?

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p.s.  Two words:  Fort Irwin.


     What about it?  It's a training base in the desert.  Did you see the sign on the drive to Vegas?  I've been there a couple times to visit brothers when they were rotated through.  Kind of a crappy place, but I understand the training is excellent. 

     The more we sweat, the less we bleed.


I dont know about you, but I generally make friends when I work places for a long period of time.

You are the one who suggested I dont know anybody in the military.

Think twice, post once.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:23:30 PM   
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I would rather buy beer for the troops than do as you suggest..



I have a brother-in-law who was in Iraq, and he has thanked my husband numerous times for the care package he sent.

My boss’s son, who had 2 tours in Iraq, came home and stated how grateful him, and the men in his unit, were for their care packages we sent.

I would rather do that any day, than buy beer for a night.

~poe



I would rather volunteer my time with vets because my uncle did two tours in Vietnam and has a purple heart. In my opinion it is the vets that get forgotten all too much, but that is just my opinion based on loved ones that I have had serve... hopefully no one I am related to will ever go to Iraq.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:25:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		      By the same reasoning you have applied to turn my comment about a good scam in the service into an accusation, I could say that all longshoremen are lazy and overpaid.  I'm smarter than that and so are you, so knock it off, ok?

    How was Hanoi Jane supporting the troops when she said the POW's were lying about their treatment?  How is attempting to cut off the money for their food and supplies supporting the troops in Iraq?  How is constantly denigrating their leadership 'supportive?'

    I want them home too.  I never wanted them to go in.  I didn't sit down and have a nice cry when it started, but when I got the call that my brother was back in Germany I did go throw up a years worth of tension.

   

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:33:22 PM   
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By the same reasoning you have applied to turn my comment about a good scam in the service into an accusation, I could say that all longshoremen are lazy and overpaid.  I'm smarter than that and so are you, so knock it off, ok?


I just wanted you to acknowledge that what you were really after was to bash someone for doing something nice for our troops because you do not like his opinions... but that is ok, you would rather keep on keeping on with the insulting thing... fine by me.



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How was Hanoi Jane supporting the troops when she said the POW's were lying about their treatment?  How is attempting to cut off the money for their food and supplies supporting the troops in Iraq?  How is constantly denigrating their leadership 'supportive?'



Why should I defend her behavior when she does not defend it herself? Please tell me how I became the apologist for any celebrity? I do not understand that. I am responsible for my behavior.. not hers.


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I want them home too.  I never wanted them to go in.  I didn't sit down and have a nice cry when it started, but when I got the call that my brother was back in Germany I did go throw up a years worth of tension.


Rich, just imagine the apple of your eye never coming home from Iraq... that happened to Cindy Sheehan, and yet you have bashed her considerably. You have no concept of what it must be like to have your heart ripped from your chest and served to you by George W Bush. Not to mention all the smears and all the nasty hate spew thrown at her from the Right Wing Karl Rove types. You know what, I am sure she does not give a fuck, my son came home in a bodybag, I think my priorities would rapidly change, and I would not give a fuck either


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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:35:37 PM   
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     By the same reasoning you have applied to turn my comment about a good scam in the service into an accusation, I could say that all longshoremen are lazy and overpaid.  I'm smarter than that and so are you, so knock it off, ok?

   How was Hanoi Jane supporting the troops when she said the POW's were lying about their treatment?  How is attempting to cut off the money for their food and supplies supporting the troops in Iraq?  How is constantly denigrating their leadership 'supportive?'

   I want them home too.  I never wanted them to go in.  I didn't sit down and have a nice cry when it started, but when I got the call that my brother was back in Germany I did go throw up a years worth of tension.

  


While that is a lovely tale about your family, there seems to be an implication that the only part of this whole sordid tale you care about is your own flesh and blood. 

You seem to take a great deal of pride in sniping at the efforts of other people attempting to do something about the world they live in, whereas I do not ever recall you sharing anything you personally have done for anybody else.

Some people are out in the world doing something to try to correct the things they see need correcting, others are sitting at their keyboards trashing the efforts of other people.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:42:37 PM   
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     If you want to be sure you are actually helping, put together a nice care package.  They appreciate canned soup, baby wipes, DVD's, books and good 2-ply toilet paper.  Since you don't seem to know anybody who has chosen to serve their country, pick a unit and address the package to 'First Sergeant' and the unit number. He'll make sure it goes to someone who could use it.


I have NO intention of jumping in this fray...I only want to inform anyone who reads the above and feels inspired to act, to check out the website www.anysoldier.com.  it is an excellent resource:  of what to send, how to send, how to find someone to send to.  you can select from servicemen and women stationed all over the world.  

I would, in fact, challenge each person that has contributed to this thread to take 5 minutes, find a serviceman at this website, and send them something, anything, to acknowledge their service and make their day a little better.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:48:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		     Nope, I don't know Cindy Sheehan.  I have ripped her activities and will probably continue to do so.  Perhaps it is the result of her loss or maybe she was a whacko bitch long before.  I knew several guys who joined because it seemed like the only way to get out of a psycho mom's crappy house.  From what I've seen and heard her say, I'd have run like hell the day after graduation.  Personally, I joined after my first year of college.


    As for the bit you snipped, how does constantly denigrating their leadership show support for the troops?  How do attempts to cut off their food and (really bad quality, government issue) toilet paper say "we love you?"

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:56:16 PM   
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    Nope, I don't know Cindy Sheehan.  I have ripped her activities and will probably continue to do so.  Perhaps it is the result of her loss or maybe she was a whacko bitch long before.  I knew several guys who joined because it seemed like the only way to get out of a psycho mom's crappy house.  From what I've seen and heard her say, I'd have run like hell the day after graduation.  Personally, I joined after my first year of college.


   As for the bit you snipped, how does constantly denigrating their leadership show support for the troops?  How do attempts to cut off their food and (really bad quality, government issue) toilet paper say "we love you?"


You see, I have very little respect for this attitude... she gave up her child, you gave up nothing... that is the way I see it.  Like I said, you have no concept, you are not a parent. You have not carried a child in your womb, reared that child, lost sleep for them, nurture them, watched with pride as they became an adult. You have no clue what it is to lose a child... it is the hurt that never goes away. You spoke of throwing up for fear of your brother. Now I love my sibs.. I have three of them... but there is no way I could compare the loss of one them with the loss of my heart... and my kid is my heart. You just are ignorant is all, you just do not know, and never will.

Be glad you will never know, I am sure Sheehan wishes she didn't

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:56:44 PM   
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    If you want to be sure you are actually helping, put together a nice care package.  They appreciate canned soup, baby wipes, DVD's, books and good 2-ply toilet paper.  Since you don't seem to know anybody who has chosen to serve their country, pick a unit and address the package to 'First Sergeant' and the unit number. He'll make sure it goes to someone who could use it.


I have NO intention of jumping in this fray...I only want to inform anyone who reads the above and feels inspired to act, to check out the website www.anysoldier.com.  it is an excellent resource:  of what to send, how to send, how to find someone to send to.  you can select from servicemen and women stationed all over the world.  

I would, in fact, challenge each person that has contributed to this thread to take 5 minutes, find a serviceman at this website, and send them something, anything, to acknowledge their service and make their day a little better.


Thank you lighthearted.
What an awesome site. I am definitely passing it on as well as doing something too.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:59:02 PM   
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   If you want to be sure you are actually helping, put together a nice care package.  They appreciate canned soup, baby wipes, DVD's, books and good 2-ply toilet paper.  Since you don't seem to know anybody who has chosen to serve their country, pick a unit and address the package to 'First Sergeant' and the unit number. He'll make sure it goes to someone who could use it.


I have NO intention of jumping in this fray...I only want to inform anyone who reads the above and feels inspired to act, to check out the website www.anysoldier.com.  it is an excellent resource:  of what to send, how to send, how to find someone to send to.  you can select from servicemen and women stationed all over the world.  

I would, in fact, challenge each person that has contributed to this thread to take 5 minutes, find a serviceman at this website, and send them something, anything, to acknowledge their service and make their day a little better.


There was a site that had a fund to help families buy armor for their kids, since our government sent them over there without any. I wonder if someone has that site. I am sure they would rather have Kevlar vests than cookies. Although having both would be a boon

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 9:02:40 PM   
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    If you want to be sure you are actually helping, put together a nice care package.  They appreciate canned soup, baby wipes, DVD's, books and good 2-ply toilet paper.  Since you don't seem to know anybody who has chosen to serve their country, pick a unit and address the package to 'First Sergeant' and the unit number. He'll make sure it goes to someone who could use it.


I have NO intention of jumping in this fray...I only want to inform anyone who reads the above and feels inspired to act, to check out the website www.anysoldier.com.  it is an excellent resource:  of what to send, how to send, how to find someone to send to.  you can select from servicemen and women stationed all over the world.  

I would, in fact, challenge each person that has contributed to this thread to take 5 minutes, find a serviceman at this website, and send them something, anything, to acknowledge their service and make their day a little better.


Thanks for the site, I went ahead and played soldier roulette for a few calling cards.

I did have an issue with the sites advertising 8 dollars worth of stuff for 130 dollars, but my issues with those who capitalize on the tragedy of others is not something I am going to inflict on those in Iraq.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 9:08:25 PM   
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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 9:08:33 PM   
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  If you want to be sure you are actually helping, put together a nice care package.  They appreciate canned soup, baby wipes, DVD's, books and good 2-ply toilet paper.  Since you don't seem to know anybody who has chosen to serve their country, pick a unit and address the package to 'First Sergeant' and the unit number. He'll make sure it goes to someone who could use it.


I have NO intention of jumping in this fray...I only want to inform anyone who reads the above and feels inspired to act, to check out the website www.anysoldier.com.  it is an excellent resource:  of what to send, how to send, how to find someone to send to.  you can select from servicemen and women stationed all over the world.  

I would, in fact, challenge each person that has contributed to this thread to take 5 minutes, find a serviceman at this website, and send them something, anything, to acknowledge their service and make their day a little better.


There was a site that had a fund to help families buy armor for their kids, since our government sent them over there without any. I wonder if someone has that site. I am sure they would rather have Kevlar vests than cookies. Although having both would be a boon


what???? n you mean kevlar is not standard issue in this day in age????


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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 9:15:08 PM   
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If you want to be sure you are actually helping, put together a nice care package.  They appreciate canned soup, baby wipes, DVD's, books and good 2-ply toilet paper.  Since you don't seem to know anybody who has chosen to serve their country, pick a unit and address the package to 'First Sergeant' and the unit number. He'll make sure it goes to someone who could use it.


I have NO intention of jumping in this fray...I only want to inform anyone who reads the above and feels inspired to act, to check out the website www.anysoldier.com.  it is an excellent resource:  of what to send, how to send, how to find someone to send to.  you can select from servicemen and women stationed all over the world.  

I would, in fact, challenge each person that has contributed to this thread to take 5 minutes, find a serviceman at this website, and send them something, anything, to acknowledge their service and make their day a little better.


There was a site that had a fund to help families buy armor for their kids, since our government sent them over there without any. I wonder if someone has that site. I am sure they would rather have Kevlar vests than cookies. Although having both would be a boon


what???? n you mean kevlar is not standard issue in this day in age????



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