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LadyAngelika -> RE: Would you bi? (3/9/2005 9:15:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tangwystal I had the Dom I am seeing ask me this just recently. I told him "no, absolutely not." He didn't get upset, but asked why not. In turn I asked him if he was in a submissive position would he be willing to service or be serviced by another man. He said "no, absolutlely not." and then chuckled and commented on the double standards in the world and said, "put that way your answer makes more sense." Hope that makes sense.. [:)] I realise this is "Ask A Submissive/Slave" but I feel that this point deserves a Dominant perspective. So please permit me to interject. As many have said in this thread, even if they weren't bisexual, they would do the act out of submission rather then out of attraction to the opposite sex. Your Dom, if he is Dom and not switch, probably doesn't have that desire to submit. If he is not a switch, then I can understand why he said "no, absolutely not". Now there is nothing wrong with setting the act as a hard limit. However, I equate the question you asked your Dom to "if you were sub, would you let someone put a collar on you and treat you like a bitch" or "if you were a sub, would you let someone whip you". Most of my boys are heterosexual when I meet them. One of the things I get off on is having them sodomized by men. If one was to set a hard limit of "no" from the beginning and tell me that it will stay no even after a strong, deep trust has been established, he better have a whole hell of a lot of other things going for him. But then again, that is my kink. - LA

Tangwystal -> RE: Would you bi? (3/9/2005 9:07:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika quote: ORIGINAL: Tangwystal I had the Dom I am seeing ask me this just recently. I told him "no, absolutely not." He didn't get upset, but asked why not. In turn I asked him if he was in a submissive position would he be willing to service or be serviced by another man. He said "no, absolutlely not." and then chuckled and commented on the double standards in the world and said, "put that way your answer makes more sense." Hope that makes sense.. [:)] I realise this is "Ask A Submissive/Slave" but I feel that this point deserves a Dominant perspective. So please permit me to interject. As many have said in this thread, even if they weren't bisexual, they would do the act out of submission rather then out of attraction to the opposite sex. Your Dom, if he is Dom and not switch, probably doesn't have that desire to submit. If he is not a switch, then I can understand why he said "no, absolutely not". Now there is nothing wrong with setting the act as a hard limit. However, I equate the question you asked your Dom to "if you were sub, would you let someone put a collar on you and treat you like a bitch" or "if you were a sub, would you let someone whip you". Most of my boys are heterosexual when I meet them. One of the things I get off on is having them sodomized by men. If one was to set a hard limit of "no" from the beginning and tell me that it will stay no even after a strong, deep trust has been established, he better have a whole hell of a lot of other things going for him. But then again, that is my kink. - LA I was hoping that I had written my post to show that I am seeing this Dom. I have not submitted to him officially, formally, whatever you want to call it. My profile states that I am exploring and finding my limits. My profile also states that I will not be 24/7 to anyone. Servicing a woman is indeed going on my hard limits list. So is being treated like any animal, horse or dog. So is hitting on any part of the head with intention. If a Dom doesn't have enough respect for me to treat me like a person then they are not the Dom for me. I'll keep looking. I believe that hitting someone on the head is a sign of disrespect. Thankfully, all of the Doms that I have met have understood that I am in a "learning about me" phase and have been very willing to discuss things that come up as person to person, not dom to sub, or master to slave. So, I guess what I am trying to say, is that in talking with this man, to help him understand my limit, I posed the question to him. It worked, as he understood what I meant. Maybe the misunderstanding comes in just how submissive you believe one to be. I am not a maid servant or a housekeeper, not a cook or a bottle washer. I am a sexual submissive for want of any better term. It seems that lots of people here want a maid or servant with free sexual benefits on the side. Is that really what this is all about for some people? Maybe it is... but not for me.

thisjuicy1 -> RE: Would you bi? (3/9/2005 11:16:56 PM)
quote: It's about growth for some people. Helping their sub/slave/kajira realise their potential. For others, its about the control... knowing that this person will obey them without a second thought. This is the reasoning i was given. i agree with you completely.

LadyAngelika -> RE: Would you bi? (3/10/2005 4:10:43 AM)
quote: So, I guess what I am trying to say, is that in talking with this man, to help him understand my limit, I posed the question to him. It worked, as he understood what I meant. Maybe the misunderstanding comes in just how submissive you believe one to be. I am not a maid servant or a housekeeper, not a cook or a bottle washer. I am a sexual submissive for want of any better term. It seems that lots of people here want a maid or servant with free sexual benefits on the side. Is that really what this is all about for some people? Maybe it is... but not for me. You misunderstood what I was saying and you proved my point at the same time. What I was saying was that this is more about limits then it is about sexual acts. If you were able to convince this man to drop his request by asking him the question that you did, good. But what I was saying is that it went deeper then that. It has nothing to do with what he would do if ever he subbed but with your own limits. I was simply trying to help you build a stronger argument for the future. And by this last post, you seem to have done just that! - LA

Tangwystal -> RE: Would you bi? (3/10/2005 4:33:46 AM)
Ahh.. is that where the confusion came in. I may have written my original even worse than I thot. I never meant to imply that I was asking him if he would do it if he "subbed", but if he would ever consider having sex with a man at all, top or bottom. Yes, it is/was/always will be my limit, but I was trying to find a way to enable him to understand why it is my limit.

KCbuttslut4U -> RE: Would you bi? (3/12/2005 1:15:36 PM)
Hi, i'm new here. This is my first post. i don't have a lot of experience with most of the things you all seem to be talking about in these forums, but my experience has been mostly as an oral and anal plaything, so i thought maybe i would start with what i'm familiar with. Although i am fully bisexual under the right circumstances, i do not actively seek out men to service just for sex. my bisexuality is something that usually only surfaces at the will of a strong woman. Yes, it's purely a sexual desire to please strong women, and in doing so, i am willing to offer my body completely as a sexual plaything. Since i'm pretty horrible in bed, i tend to seek out women who have alternative interests in using me for their own pleasures.On occasions where that includes servicing another male for her pleasure, i am Hers to command. my desire to satisfy him becomes an extension of Her desire to see me used in that manner. While it is humbling and humiliating to be used in such a manner while being watched by a woman, it is her pleasure at witnessing the act that makes it possible to allow yourself to feel pleasure in the act itself. Allowing that extension of her will is a very powerful tool for you when submitting to this type of activity. Once you can accept her power over your pleasure in that way, you can eagerly satisfy her through your desire to please her. In this way, the act becomes an enjoyable one that doesn't subscribe to the social morality which has no application in the act itself under the circumstances. Once you drop the social baggage, it's really a wonderful journey. Good luck to you.

Chilli -> RE: Would you bi? (3/26/2005 6:46:57 AM)
I dont consider myself to be bisexual, but I have done it and will again when required of me.

subhubc -> RE: Would you bi? (3/27/2005 3:20:55 PM)
My time is coming on this issue, I am more ambivalent, but it is a real desire of Hers. I know She has someone in mind, and I think I know who, and I know it is no longer just a mindfuck, and its going to happen. I will do it, I am straight, but if it pleases Her and keeps the fire going, the answer has to be yes.

asissyforher -> RE: Would you bi? (6/14/2005 4:19:39 PM)
would i? i already have.. i do as i am told to do..She is Dominate..not me. a sissy

stormsfate -> RE: Would you bi? (6/14/2005 4:26:07 PM)
Well done, Dave! :::clapping::: best regards, fate (with another "I agree" response)

fourpeas -> RE: Would you bi? (6/14/2005 5:16:41 PM)
My partner and I have talked about it and it very much turns me on. I don't know if I am "bi" in the sense that I had one relationship with a woman with whom I was very much in love. Very much. I still love her, but I am also aware that long-term, neither one of us can satisfy the other's needs and desires. That's totally fine with me. However, my Dom talked about the idea of me being able to express that part of myself (which is really just the part that desires sexual and sensual connection with other women) WITHIN the framework of our bond. That said... I'm pretty f#*@ing excited about the first time I get to kiss a girl for him. What a double rush!!! Pleasing him by doing something that thrills me. And thrills him. I am excited by it. I'm also excited by the fact that he knows my desires are not to be in a long-term relationship or to have a "relationship" with a woman, that the desire is just there to play with someone who would like to play. He says that he doesn't want me to be limited in any experience in my life, so long as we can experience it together and not me running off to sneak around in the middle of the night doing something that I feel is "forbidden" or "bad" in some way. xo-4peas

biflover327 -> RE: Would you bi? (6/14/2005 5:41:00 PM)
If you chose to be a slave, you must comply to masters request, any hesitation or balking is cause for brutal punishment and possible dismissle, you must never argue or subject master to your selfishness and dissrespect infront of his piers, especially other subs, and it dosent matter whether master would suck cock or not, his servitude and trust is not in question, yours is. You female subs who balk have no idea of the pride it gives us masters to see our subs force a protesting newbe (im not les I carnt do this) to lose control of her body and cum profusiouslly all over her face in screaming erotic abandon..

lionheart67 -> RE: Would you bi? (6/14/2005 6:09:44 PM)
I have pondered this question from a submissive stance and also a straight male.I would give you the advice of what I will do if the situiation ever shall arise on me.I would first off find a Partner with the same interests as I have or Very similar to mine.If it is a situation that comes to light well after a relationship is underway then I would hope that We have discused my emotional stress level.Some people are Not wired to handle certain situations and PEOPLE can have actual damage done by doing something that they are NOT ready for. ONLY you know if it is something you can handle and if Any Dom/Me really Cares about you as a person or thier property then that Person should respect you enough to LOOK after your well Bieng.There is a line in a well known MOVIE that should be heard by A/all "With great Power comes Great Responsibilty". Good luck in whatever you choose and remember that you are thought about by others.

stormsfate -> RE: Would you bi? (6/14/2005 6:21:57 PM)
I would also suggest that the limits one starts out with likely will not be the ones they maintain years later. Never say never [&o] quote: I am a sexual submissive for want of any better term. It seems that lots of people here want a maid or servant with free sexual benefits on the side. Is that really what this is all about for some people? Maybe it is... but not for me. For some people yes, that is what it is about. Some people, as with yourself, are in it for the kinky sex, while still others are looking for something a bit more all encompassing in which the mental aspects play a key role. best regards, fate

MadameDahlia -> RE: Would you bi? (6/14/2005 11:25:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: biflover327 If you chose to be a slave, you must comply to masters request, any hesitation or balking is cause for brutal punishment and possible dismissle, you must never argue or subject master to your selfishness and dissrespect infront of his piers, especially other subs, and it dosent matter whether master would suck cock or not, his servitude and trust is not in question, yours is. You female subs who balk have no idea of the pride it gives us masters to see our subs force a protesting newbe (im not les I carnt do this) to lose control of her body and cum profusiouslly all over her face in screaming erotic abandon.. What?? Oh for hell's sake... While that may work for you it isn't everyone's idea of a good time. Not everyone will see his or her submissive/slave as less than human.

subrob1967 -> RE: Would you bi? (6/15/2005 5:24:30 AM)
I'm not bi, bi curious, or even interested in other boys, in fact the idea neither turns me on, or turns me off, I'm completely ambivilant to same sex incounters. That being said, I do live under a F/F bi Domme couple who are looking for a second boy to serve them, and it was mentioned to me that it would please them to see their boys serviceing each other on occasions.

RandBcouple -> RE: Would you bi? (6/15/2005 7:21:28 AM)
quote: The issue is the emotional ramifications of bringing someone into the relationship, even if it's just a random sex encounter. It will change things and needs to be accounted for. interested in knowing your opinion on how you feel it changes things. babygirl

terah -> RE: Would you bi? (6/15/2005 8:53:47 AM)
I am Bi, however I don't find that everyone that I see has that certain something. Most straight men don't get bisexual or gay relationship. I find it rediculas for them to dictate who I would like to sleep with. So in answer to your question I don't bargain with my partner it is clear enough and respected.[:D]

alilsub2000 -> RE: Would you bi? (6/17/2005 9:02:16 PM)
Good God Yes: That has been my problem, I have met several Mistresses of so called "some from here, But when I make a request to do Bi for her amusement she says yuck... and I loose them.... any takers

nonuts4thshoney -> RE: Would you bi? (6/17/2005 9:39:45 PM)
Thats a really tough question being that my master and I are both lesbians. I don't think that she would ever request this of me and I do not wish to engage in sex with the opposite sex and she knows this. However, if she wanted me to do it, I would. But I would be hella shocked if she ever asked that of me.

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