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Jasmyn -> Women in Control (3/6/2005 8:16:00 AM)

Is Fem Supremacy so far fetched an idea after all? I mean surely the only reason it doesnt exist at society level is because only a few women actually believe (and practice it) in it? Yet almost every culture, spiritualness, equates womenhood with great mythology and wisdom...and many men do believe women somehow hold an inherent superiority over them. Hell even submissive females demand a level of respect outside subservience to their chosen master, that warms the cockles of a self professed Fem Supreme's heart.

Keep in mind Fem Supremacy is not about hating men...they're actually quite useful and thus we *need* them...some we'll eventually be quite fond of.

For Me though, the notion of Fem Supremacy suits who I am...no I don't think all females are superior, or heck that even I am...but I do know being a woman in control of Myself affords Me certain advantages. Advantages I might add that are achieved more or less because of the patriacol society we live in.

Would it be this much fun if we were all doing it?

Jasmyn

Disclaimer: this is a lighthearted whimsical look at the notion of Fem Supremacy so please try to think laterally before pecking Me cyber eyeballs out for daring to show a little ego beneath My skirts ;)



EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 9:04:41 AM)

Hmmm...I like the idea of people being aware of who they are and what their strengths are. Our society really DOES allow women to be superior, in all the unimportant things. We COULD control the world today, but only indirectly and behind the scenes. I see no problem in taking advantage of the opportunities we are provided.

So if men out there realize that they just were born to serve and worship females based on their skills, I'm happy with that and the women who ethically use that to their advantage.

I don't think we should create or mandate it as a societal norm though.



Soapy -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 10:18:40 AM)

I don't think it is a far fetched idea.

Look how much humor is devoted to the subject of "hen pecked" husbands.

Whether it is labeled as "fem supremacy" or something else for some people their relationships work when the woman is the one who has the final say on calling the shots.



SecretDomme -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 11:38:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

For Me though, the notion of Fem Supremacy suits who I am...no I don't think all females are superior, or heck that even I am...but I do know being a woman in control of Myself affords Me certain advantages. Advantages I might add that are achieved more or less because of the patriacol society we live in.

Disclaimer: this is a lighthearted whimsical look at the notion of Fem Supremacy so please try to think laterally before pecking Me cyber eyeballs out for daring to show a little ego beneath My skirts ;)



Hi Jasmyn,

I like what you state here about being a "woman in control" of yourself and how it affords you certain advantages. I've never gone along with the therory that I was supreme by my gender alone (or that anyone was supreme, for that matter), but I think this is one idea of female supremacy that I could tolerate and agree with. :-)

Be well,
Julie



Sissyslave71 -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 12:06:40 PM)

As a male...I don't believe in Female Spremacy or any other type of supremacy.(White supremacy,Christian Supremacy,etc)

If you think about it.....Female Supremacy would be imitating all the worst aspects that Patriarchy has given us.

If it gets to the point where you are a "Fundamentalist" and see things only in black-and white-terms, you can be a danger to others.

Now....Female authority...thats a different animal altogether. I have a healthy respect and even need for female authority.


Just my 2 pesos.



mantis65 -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 12:27:49 PM)

Female Supremacy is an interesting idea but like a goraen slave girl loving the idea of male Supremacy I am sure I am biased on the idea of women enslaving all men.

I really think they are good and bad people of both genders and I don’t really believe in supremacy of any gender. I love female supremacists but there are some woman that wouldn’t make natural leaders or are criminal in nature just like men.

Just don’t hate me if a become a henchmen to some diabolical Woman hoping to enslave all men! Lol

mantis



onceburned -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 1:44:43 PM)

quote:

For Me though, the notion of Fem Supremacy suits who I am...no I don't think all females are superior, or heck that even I am...but I do know being a woman in control of Myself affords Me certain advantages. Advantages I might add that are achieved more or less because of the patriacol society we live in.


Apologies to all for adding my comments in this forum, but I think that Jasmyn's words are the best justification of female supremacy that I have heard. FS is not about all women being superior to all men, but that women are entitled to take what they want.

Perhaps a certain amount of FS attitude is a necessary correction to the still largely patriarchal culture that we live in.



MadameDahlia -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 2:40:58 PM)

I've met a lot of women scum... and befriended plenty of men type friends. But the opposite could just as easily be said. Superior via gender? Nah... Superior in knowing your desires, goals... in striving to achieve them... in reaching out and touching your dreams... Sure.

Now if THAT is what Female Superiority is sign me up because I plan on shooting for the moon and never looking back. I aim on making my dreams a reality. I do not, however, get off on the oppression of any group of decent (which differs from person to person admittedly) people.



GingerleeDREAD -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 6:09:34 PM)

quote:

Women in Control

Female and Male Supremacy verses Superiority
A Alpha Dominant Womans opinion......

Supremacy-The quality or condition of being
supreme. Supreme power or authority of like kind.

Superiority-Higher than another in rank,
station, or authority. a superior officer.
Of great value or excellence; extraordinary.
Greater in number or amount than another

Mastery- Possession of consummate(To bring
to completion or fruition a Complete or perfect
in every respect skill.) ways.

Now I will bring first My principle to this board
in how I think on the issue of Gender Power and
what Natural Forces bring to it Their Stations of
Fruition.
In numbers the Dominant Male is the number one
(1) and the Dominant Female is the zero (0).
The 0 and the 1 start all things in life including
creative cycles, One of the exciting things is the
awareness that the 1 is a straight line with beginning
and end ( straight line like a cock. )and the 0 has no
beginning or end( round like the opening of a pussy .)
Both lines constitute lines of force. On paper in blueprint
to form a straight line drawn at 360 degrees it can create
a circle, and a circle drawn at 180 degrees creates guess
what, a straight line. The 0 and the 1 can create each
other. Or, One might say, can be born from each other.
Magic happens when the Two Unite and there is Equal
Union. Both can be Superior in Their chosen Life's Force.
Both can feel Supreme in Their Position with in that Force.
When One or the Other feel that They posses the Controlling
Force, that Position is naturally taken and Held. Either
can at any point in Their Life force give and take this Position.
From a small child I have always been a Woman in Control.
I have even in My choice to give My Power and Control to a
Man done so only to a Man equal or Stronger in My Power
and Control. Does this make Me better then Men? I don't feel so.
Does this make Me Superior to Men? Only in that which I have
achieved superiority over in My endeavors throughout My
Life Living and if this achievement is above and beyond that
which a Man has accomplished. Does this make Me Supreme?
I am only Supreme in My abilities to be the very best that
I can be for Who, What, Where, Why and how I am. There
are times that My Power is Supreme over the Others around
Me and at times that Others Power is Supreme over Mine.
I consider My self Excellent, Strong and Extraordinary but
there are Dominant Men and other Dominant Woman I feel
the same about as well. But I can take Control in most any
Situation presented if I so choose.JMPO.



mantis65 -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 7:21:38 PM)


hello GingerleeDREAD

I notice you didn’t mention how you personally how you feel about slaves/subs male for female? how do you feel about slaves personally?


Every Dommes is diffent and everyone sees /subs slaves different I am finding out.
Any way just want to know your thoughts and I wont judge (saw your post on another thread I have nothing against sadists) anyway I m just curious.

mantis



WulfMan -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 10:40:53 PM)

To be honest, I don't believe in any Supremcy. I do consider myself an equal to my Love, but yet on the terms that I respect her greatly. She does some things better than me and I do some things better than her. For example, I'm a math wiz but suck at english and such, where she is the exact opposite. We both equal out each other so thus we are one. Just because I am considered submissive, granted I'd rather call it loving, doesn't mean that I am "not worthy" or "under" her. And she feels the same way about it as I do.



GingerleeDREAD -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 10:54:25 PM)

mantis65
switch men or woman I have no time for.
submissive men or woman I have no use for.
slave men or woman I use and adore as My posessions.



SweetDommes -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 11:01:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WulfMan

To be honest, I don't believe in any Supremcy. I do consider myself an equal to my Love, but yet on the terms that I respect her greatly. She does some things better than me and I do some things better than her. For example, I'm a math wiz but suck at english and such, where she is the exact opposite. We both equal out each other so thus we are one. Just because I am considered submissive, granted I'd rather call it loving, doesn't mean that I am "not worthy" or "under" her. And she feels the same way about it as I do.


We are pretty much the same way with our boys, Wulf ... always nice to see that we aren't the only ones LOL

Without a submissive, we are Dominants without a purpose ... with a submissive (or two) we are Dominants with someone to dominate, someone to lead, someone to cherish, etc. We need them as much as they need us - we need to dominate or we are not really dominant ... Now, we are in charge, but that doesn't make us any better than they are. If we need them as much as they need us, how can we be superior?



WulfMan -> RE: Women in Control (3/6/2005 11:08:05 PM)

Very well put Miss Karen. Yes it is nice to see eye to eye with others.



malepleases4ever -> RE: Women in Control (3/7/2005 12:07:30 AM)

Two major problems with female supremacy:

Women are not superior to men - and the "arguments" trumpteted by fem supremacists are highly dubious to say the least - some women are superior to some men, no doubt - also some plants are superior to some men

As pointed out - the nazi lietmotif has got to go - there are very few worthwhile things that end in Supremacy.



mantis65 -> RE: Women in Control (3/7/2005 12:17:49 AM)

quote:

some women are superior to some men, no doubt - also some plants are superior to some men


i agree with that

Men are not superior to woman in my eyes just different. And every person is different.
I have no problem with woman that feel superior to all men. I personally don’t believe it
mantis



Jasmyn -> RE: Women in Control (3/7/2005 4:26:55 AM)

quote:

Sissyslave71
If you think about it.....Female Supremacy would be imitating all the worst aspects that Patriarchy has given us.


*smiles* Which is why I asked the question would it be as much fun if we were all doing it? The notion of Fem Supremacy might sound great in fantasy to avid enthusiasts of it etc but would they really be that avid for it if they lived in a society where there was no choice?

I've noticed a lot of male enthusiasts of Fem Supremacy feel their beliefs in it sets them apart from the mere mortal penis lead male who don't believe. That they are some how above impulsively acting on male urges and thus are not bound by typical male stereotyping, making them feel they are somehow more evolved.

If all believed...how would these men feel superior to a counterpart?

quote:


Now....Female authority...thats a different animal altogether. I have a healthy respect and even need for female authority.


Now this is more Me...nicely said.

I don't want to be seen as superior, but if the male needing Female Authority needs to believe I am then so be it. I often say, it matters little if I believe in Fem Supremacy, all that matters is if he does. But ultimately it is My authority that needs to be seen as superior...not My gender.

I grew up the youngest in a large Catholic family with 9 older brothers and 4 older sisters. Our Mum was strong confident woman, and although Dad was the undisputed head of the household, ultimately Mum ruled and through love she gained our trust and respect and in return we earned hers.

Her principals of authority have been easy to apply to My style of D/s...the label of Fem Supremist or Goddess or even Mistress are simply bling bling.




Jasmyn -> RE: Women in Control (3/7/2005 4:43:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: onceburned

quote:

For Me though, the notion of Fem Supremacy suits who I am...no I don't think all females are superior, or heck that even I am...but I do know being a woman in control of Myself affords Me certain advantages. Advantages I might add that are achieved more or less because of the patriacol society we live in.


Apologies to all for adding my comments in this forum, but I think that Jasmyn's words are the best justification of female supremacy that I have heard. FS is not about all women being superior to all men, but that women are entitled to take what they want.


Thank you onceburned and no apologies needed.

While I agree women are entitled to take what they want I would hate to see that happen to the detriement of men.

quote:


Perhaps a certain amount of FS attitude is a necessary correction to the still largely patriarchal culture that we live in.


Men in New Zealand are often heard to lament "The only thing wrong with New Zealand is we have a woman Prime Minister." , which I often respond with.."No the problem with New Zealand is our men have yet to accept it."

Its like they have taken it as personal affront to patriacol manhood and/or a sign of a collective weakness that we have a female leader. Yet on the world stage she foots it well with the big boys and certainly doesnt pee like puppy. She's rather an exceptional individual and I'd be just as proud of that if our strong leader was a male.

But alas the poor Kiwi hetro male, I do feel for them...not only did we vote in a female Prime Minister but we also voted in an openly transgendered ex prostitute politician and an openly gay politician was instrumental in getting passed a parliamentary bill that now legally recongises gay relationships. I will admit it's been a trying time for the average joe bloggs out there.



LadyAngelika -> RE: Women in Control (3/8/2005 1:25:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: malepleases4ever
there are very few worthwhile things that end in Supremacy.


Exactly. It is a very weak person who labels themselves as Supreme or considers themselves as superior to someone.

Female Supremacy is just another way of pussy whipping boys and taking away their manhood to make them easier to dominate.

Personally, I prefer the challenge and service of a real, genuine, worthy man.

- LA



MistressFire70 -> RE: Women in Control (3/8/2005 1:37:58 PM)

I think each of us developing who we are and each coming into our own to create a place of power, is, in itself, powerful. There is power in knowing your destiny, be it Master, slave, Dominant or submissive.

As for ANY kind of "Supremacy", the idea that one group is help higher than another group based on some particular set of characteristics is just flat out wrong to me. Can you say Hitler, boys and girls? While I see how it might make for a hot scene or extended weekend (as might a Nazi interrogation), I don't see how it can be a healthy lifestyle to constantly proclaim a supremacist view.

I want my slave to serve me because of WHO I am, not WHAT I am. And, I want slave who are looking for real relationships rather than a fantasy. VERY hard to come by.

Fire



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