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Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 6:06:53 AM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		I am astounded and alarmed over the 9 online messages I have discovered via the online course I am taking from you at HACC.

As a result of this, I am going to reccommend to the provost- that a incoming interview via phone be necessary for ALL virtual courses. While your book, and your theory endorses a simple easy to read/comprehend, non clutterred website presence: the WebCT format is anything but. WebCT is confusing to navigate- yours moreso then the other course I am taking.

You will be pleased to know that I have enrolled you in an online ratings service- so you can sharpen your teaching skills- and be more successful at your craft. I am sure you will gain from this no cost service!

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 6:31:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		You are at HACC?  I'm curious about that school for my um.  It has a program that can't be found many places.

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 6:44:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes- tho I never set foot on its campass.I know a few that went there.

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 6:48:41 AM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		Dear professor "x",

I pay [in part] YOUR SALARY. Now bend over and comply!

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 6:48:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		And their experiences, do they feel they received good preparation for work?

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 6:50:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

You are at HACC?  I'm curious about that school for my um.  It has a program that can't be found many places.


Im surprised the Pittsburgh region doesnt have more.

Based on my numerous phone calls to HACC, some of the folks are down to earth.   a handfull think they are Harvard/Yale league- LMAO. "O' "KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK"

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 6:52:30 AM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		As far as dating goes- if they are from teh northern tier they tend to be honest and down to earth.

compared to the capitol region, where everyone is "slick"

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 6:57:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

And their experiences, do they feel they received good preparation for work?


The attitude locally is that Bloomsburg offers the most for the money, has a god reputation. Penn State at State college if you can afford it.

HACC is a community college. Outside of PA, no one has heard of it.

Penn Teck at Williamsport has some impressive curiculi.

Bucknell and Susquehanna are snob schools- they too think they are harvard-yale. but have a price tag to "prove' it.

Ill have to ask around to ans your question. It goes sorta like this "firiends took a few classes at HACC"

so in terms of a great career out of it- bloom is a better bet.

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 7:01:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		BTW- Lucerne county college- if you are 65 [?] and older- you get free tuition-  depending on if space is left over.

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 7:02:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		This particular um needs to have an easy path to higher ed.  He can do the work, but has motivation issues.  He recently changed schools and his grades went from failing to A's & B's.  I am hopeful.

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 7:04:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		may I ask- UMs age and area of study?

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 7:06:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Will turn 19 this year, looking at the music business 2-year program.  Honestly, I don't care what he chooses, as long as he gets a certification or associates degree in something, anything.

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 7:08:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Katy lets take this to email- so we can freely chat.

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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/6/2007 7:10:17 AM   
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RE: Dear Professor "x", - 2/7/2007 8:57:19 PM   
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The core issue--why these messages alarmed and astounded you--is not clear to me, but then I don't know the situation. Is it the quantity of messages? The quality? Who are the messages from?

Given that the problem isn't clear, it's hard for me to see how requiring a phone interview would solve the problem. Will that be apparent to the professor? Rather than saying you're going to the provost, I'd consider just making the suggestion to the prof. Going over someone's head is unlikely to win him or her over.

It wasn't clear whether the WebCT format problems were the same as your message concerns or something different. Again, that may be obvious to the prof. Did s/he design WebCT? If this is a key issue, you might want to offer examples of how the poor interface hindered you.

To be honest, the paragraph about the online rating service sounds very sarcastic, even snarky. Is that your intent? That brings up a key question for the letter as a whole: What's the object of the game? Are you trying to get the professor to change? Do you want the college to change? If so, you may get farther with calm reason than sarcasm. Or are you simply venting?

Hope this helps. Did a quick copyedit of the existing text (below).

Cheers,

DC


I am astounded and alarmed over the nine online messages I have received via the online course I am taking from you at HACC.

As a result of this, I am going to reccommend to the provost that a phone interview be necessary for ALL virtual courses. While your book and your theory endorse a simple, easy-to-navigate, nonclutterred website presence, the WebCT format is anything but. WebCT is confusing to navigate. Your site is more difficult than the one for the other course I am taking.

You will be pleased to know that I have enrolled you in an online ratings service so you can sharpen your teaching skills and be more successful at your craft. I am sure you will gain from this no-cost service!



< Message edited by dcnovice -- 2/7/2007 8:59:19 PM >

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