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DaniCalifornia -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 10:39:05 AM)
Watch me take the thread and throw it a curve ball. Its polyamory. not polgamy. the second slave isnt going to be a second wife. carry on (edited for the typo police :-P neener neener neener)

loriangel -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 10:43:08 AM)
She's seized control of the relationship. He can either trust she will reform or release her. Punishing is of no use if he is not in control. It actually becomes her reward.

obey1 -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 10:45:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaniCalifornia Ummm, I think the "polgamy tread" is elsewhere....[sm=biggrin.gif]

texancutie -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 10:47:00 AM)
Wow, leave for a night of bliss, and what happens? The thread goes out of whack for some reason as usual. Thank goodness that couple didn't come here seeking advice is all I can say. But then who really comes here and takes to heart all the advice that is given anyway. The prudent person thinks over what works for them, and disregards what does not. Anyway nothing like getting way off base. Every woman and every pregnancy is different. Cut that couple some slack. BDSM is not the same for every couple nor every individual either. What works for one, does not always work for another. We don't know these people, and obviously we never got all the facts in the first post, nor even the follow up post. Pretty typical when you think about it. Though we are all entitled to our own opinions of course. Apparently, they are managing the situation on their own as they should. They are back to vanilla, and probably will be for a while. If it is that difficult to manage BDSM and vanilla right now for them, they will have a surprise arriving in a number of months as well. Though I don't wish to start another off topic ramble, on how everyone can manage having a newborn, and being 24/7 all the time either. Though the topic, How to punish slave that has broken every rule was a little misleading in my book....or just a plain bad choice of words. By that question alone I was thinking it was going to be something more than what it turned out to be.

DaniCalifornia -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 10:48:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obey1 quote: ORIGINAL: DaniCalifornia Ummm, I think the "polgamy tread" is elsewhere....[sm=biggrin.gif] Bah! Typo police!! :-P

loriangel -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 10:56:32 AM)
Married doesn't make them M/s their deeds do. He needs to pay attention to his own backyard. A pregnant woman is full of hormones and he is not caring for her. How will he care for another? Seems like another chapter in "How CM Turns" aka I just married/ collared you now we need another... in this case the other is a child who will need parents who act responsibly including accepting self responsibility. She on the other hand needed to relate her issues to him not manipulate the situation and lie. (back to lurk mode)

Celeste43 -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 10:57:05 AM)
Heartfelt, I can't believe that she didn't say to him how unattractive she feels. And that she said that needing reassurance. She didn't get it. No she shouldn't be breaking rules, but he's not doing his job either. Being dominant means you have responsibilities, not just rights. And that includes taking care of a woman you claim to love, and insuring that she is as healthy as possible during pregnancy. Threatening infidelity will cause her to have stress chemicals rushing through her body, something that is very unhealthy for the child. At this time, his responsibilities are as essential as hers. And first and foremost is taking good care of the person whose body chemistry is carrying the child. Unfortunately he doesn't appear to have bothered to read up on anything about what's going on, or care about doing his job. He cares a lot more about getting some than providing a happy marriage that can produce happy and healthy children.

heartfeltsub -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 11:07:11 AM)
How do you know any of what you are claiming? The fact that they were talking about taking a second slave is not infidelity if it is something that they both knew about. we don't know what she did or didn't say to him about anything. we don't know if he reassured her or not, to make such claims when they were not stated in any of the posts from the person who started this thread is bringing in feelings and assumptions that are not supported by the posts and are more likely a reflection of something you may have experienced during pregnancy then what the OP stated. You don't know what he has or hasn't read up on about pregnancy and are again making a statement that is not supported by any of the posts from the thread starter. Suppositions aside, my original premise remains, that hormonal changes are not a "reason" to disobey when one has given his or her word to obey and disobedience doesn't help the situation while communication and responsiblity taken would have. heartfelt

texancutie -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 11:25:37 AM)
lol...alright...I did it, thanks DaniCalifornia. I typed polygamy instead of polyamory, and I know better too. What was on my brain the other day? Oh scening for the whole night, that explains it. I am not polyamorous to my knowledge and polygamy is not allowed in Texas of course. Though marrying your sister in East Texas seems to be allowed. There are mutants in those piney wood forests. Actually, polyandry might be fun on occasion as long as the breeding part is left out of it. [:D]

MagiksSlave -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 1:16:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obey1 RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? Abort the child. That will punish them both. OK I cant tell if you are jokeing but eather way that is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard.... How is killing an inosent child (I do beleave in abortion beeing a womans right but not for a reason like this) punishing anyone but that child. I cant even put words to it at the moment but this sugestion makes me physiccaly sick!!! Magik's slave

MagiksSlave -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 1:25:20 PM)
Ok lets not forget people we are all human sub slave Master Dom whatever it is you call yourself. Heartfelt, while haromones dont excuse misbehaviot they can go along way to esplain them. Emotions arent rational things and they can sometimes have us doing things that arent so great like breaking rules. Knight of mist Sir I understand what your saying about BDSM not beeing a jacket and I didnt mean it that way what I ment was is that I feel that the only way to have a good BDSM thing is to have a good solid venilla foundatiion and at the moment it seems something fundamentaly is wrong in that venilla foundation and there for the BDSM layor sometimes needs to be removed to fix the venilla foundation or the entire thing may emplode.. I dont know did that make more sence Knight Sir??? Im haveing trouble explaining it I think. Magik's slave

daddysliloneds -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 1:38:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: destinykitty One of my Dom friends spoke to me this morning wanting advice from a slave point of view and although I would have loved to give it to him I really had no idea what to tell him. The situation in short is this. My friend has been with his sub/slave for over a year now they have been Master and slave since valentines day last year and everything has been going along smoothly. September last year there started being a little bit of distance between them due to various things but still things kept going. Yesterday his slave wrote an entry in her journal entry confessing that over the last three months she has broken every rule that he has given her some rules she had broken almost daily like playing with herself without permission and reaching climax without permission. She couldn't live with the guilt that was building up in her about it and had to tell him. They talked about her reasons behind it and he even admited to me that he is partly at fault. Neither of them want out of their 24/7 relationship but he doesn't know what to do. He doesn't want to punish her too hard for something that he is at fault with but she needs to be punished and is pretty much begging for it. I am friends with both partys in this relationship and knowing her she feels like she needs a hard punishment to get rid of the guilt for three months. Does anybody have any advice on how he could punish her? He has already locked her toys away so that she can not use them but she needs something more she needs to really feel like she has been punished/disciplined. Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Destinykitty my advice is probably way out in left field compared to most of the responsese you've probably gotten already; i don't know, i didn't read any of them. anywaysssssss; instead of punishing her, how about changing the rules to accomodate what realistically seems to be a need for her, a form of some sort of release, if you will, for while he's away?... i know that i tend to bottle everything up inside until i reach a boiling point; where i feel if i don't get my masochistic needs met soon, i'll end up killing someone! it's not pretty!... if i were to be punished for breaking a rule, that helps me to find a release for myself while my partner were away, i'm quite sure i'd be finding a new partner; why? because rules can be easily altered or changed; people in need can't!

heartfeltsub -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 2:41:25 PM)
i will not argue with you that they can explain something, but as the next poster mentioned, if there had been discussion the rules might have been adjusted to take pregnancy and changes into account as opposed to disobeying.

Shadows4Dom -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 2:52:56 PM)
To destinykitty; Yes I would and have made a Slave sleep in a bed with no blanket, sheets, or pillow, to teach the lesson of trust. I trusted her to obey and she disobeyed and broke the trust so a night without bedding is far better than most other alternative punishments.

adaddysgirl -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 4:00:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Shadows4Dom To destinykitty; Yes I would and have made a Slave sleep in a bed with no blanket, sheets, or pillow, to teach the lesson of trust. I trusted her to obey and she disobeyed and broke the trust so a night without bedding is far better than most other alternative punishments. Well, devilslilsister is pregnant and wanted to bash somebody's head in the other night. i think anyone who tried to take her blankey and pillow might have ended up with some grievous bodily harm...and might be lucky enough to live to tell about it...lol [sm=boxer.gif] DG

MagiksSlave -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 5:25:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl quote: ORIGINAL: Shadows4Dom To destinykitty; Yes I would and have made a Slave sleep in a bed with no blanket, sheets, or pillow, to teach the lesson of trust. I trusted her to obey and she disobeyed and broke the trust so a night without bedding is far better than most other alternative punishments. oh and its always real heathy for mother and unborn child to be made uncomfertable and cold aspecially in the middle of winter!! Magik's slave Well, devilslilsister is pregnant and wanted to bash somebody's head in the other night. i think anyone who tried to take her blankey and pillow might have ended up with some grievous bodily harm...and might be lucky enough to live to tell about it...lol [sm=boxer.gif] DG

obey1 -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/8/2007 9:06:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave this sugestion makes me physiccaly sick!!! Please calm down. This is not what I believe. You fell for the big print. This was a pointed trap with big nasty teeth. There were certain lifestylers here that had no compassion towards a pregnant woman. I showed them my ass.

MagiksSlave -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/9/2007 7:15:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obey1 quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave this sugestion makes me physiccaly sick!!! Please calm down. This is not what I believe. You fell for the big print. This was a pointed trap with big nasty teeth. There were certain lifestylers here that had no compassion towards a pregnant woman. I showed them my ass. as I said it didnt really matter to me if this was a seriouse sugetion or not the mear posting of it is like nails on a blackboard and makes me bones quiver.. sorry I guess I just have strong feelings about these sort of things. Magik's slave

mons -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/10/2007 1:04:12 AM)
greetings leaving her when they both want to still be with one another and i say this in truth it is hard to find that one whom you love i agree with vampire chasity device a good beating now to hard and go on from there mons

Shadow4Dom -> RE: How to punish a slave that has broken every rule? (2/10/2007 5:35:22 PM)
After reading more closely to all the input and text given and shared ( which wasn't given till pg. 5 or so.) I know I would have never taken bedding away from a pregnant sub. Years ago i did have an unruly sub that broke rules like they just did'nt exsist, and yes I gave her ample time to change her ways or disipline would follow. After lengthy discussion with sub we both decided that two nights without bedding would be sufficent. Also this took place in Miami Fl during the middle of summer. The punisment worked in this instance.

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